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Agassi has proven that he can definitely win the French in '99. Do you think PEAK Agassi could have beaten Nadal at Roland Garros...?
No. I think he would have been straight-setted by Nadal on clay and by Federer on grass. On hard courts, he could perhaps have given a battle to both Federer and Nadal.Agassi has proven that he can definitely win the French in '99. Do you think PEAK Agassi could have beaten Nadal at Roland Garros...?
No. I think he would have been straight-setted by Nadal on clay and by Federer on grass. On hard courts, he could perhaps have given a battle to both Federer and Nadal.
"perhaps" given a battle to both federer and nadal? ha! agassi in his prime would have dominated nadal on hard courts. a 34 year old agassi gave federer an extremely competitive match in the us open finals. i don't think agassi would have beaten nadal on clay but he would have had great matches on clay vs. federer. people forget that b/n 1988-1992 agassi reached 2 semi-finals and 2 finals.
despite winning only 1 grand slam that year, i think agassi played his best tennis in 1995, not 1999. he won everything he played during that summer until he lost the US Open finals to sampras which sent his career into a spiral. he very likely would have won the french open that year had he not hurt his hip against kafelnikov in the quarters. a 1995 agassi would have beaten nadal on hardcourts and very likely would have beaten federer as well.
agassi could impose his will on federer through his ability to take the ball early and his clean ball striking. agassi had better ball striking ability than federer and a much better backhand. a 1995 or 1999 agassi vs a 2007 federer would have been very close on any surface (other than grass).
yes, agassi had great years towards the end of his career but what you fail to mention is that agassi from 2005-2006 (maybe even part of 2004 as well) is that he played in tremendous pain during those last few years due to his back. this includes his run at the US Open in 2005. he received numerous cortisone shots during those last few years and his movement became more limited. agassi of 2005/2006 was not the same player he was in 2003.
why was agassi winning the french in '99 a fluke? maybe the way he made his comeback in the finals i guess. i think he was like the 13 seed that year but he was always a good clay court player. the real fluke was medvedev making it to the finals. i think he was ranked 100 in the world at the time.
He wouldn't have even beaten Fed on clay
a lot of ignorance here. evidently people have forgotten that great players actually existed b/f federer/nadl.
Agassi had trouble with Muster, Wilander, and the lefty from Ecuador.
Nadal would eat Agassi alive. I don't care if Agassi ran backward against 90 degree mountains. There is nothing Agassi could do to beat Nadal.
I do think Wilander and Muster and even Lendl and Mecir could beat Nadal in their primes. To beat Nadal its all about legs, brains, and patience. These guys had all three.
Agassi has been in more French Open finals than Fed. No fluke.
So how can we talk about Agassi and Nadal in the same breathe!!!
Agassi would have never even came close to rafa on clay, i dont care what year it was.
Yes, AA would have been compettive against Nadal on clay. For starters, he wouldn't be standing 10+ feet behind the baseline on the return, or off the ground.
No. Agassi said that him winning the French was a fluke.
Yeah because Agassi was real competitve on grass last year in that beatdown at the hands of Nadal, slow grass or not. This is grass. A former Wimby champ against a guy who had a career record of 3-3 on grass prior to that Wimbledon.
Agassi couldn´t handle the best clay courters in his era (Muster, Kuerten, Bruguera, Courier, Ferrero) how could he handle perhaps the best clay courter of all time?
Hmmm :roll: I hardly think AA was in his **prime** last year. Guess you missed that.
Against Kuerten he had a winning record of 7-4, so you are wrong in your ridiculous argeument that he couldn't handle him. By the way, he is a former 3 time French Champ in case you are stuck too far up nadal's behind to notice.
Against Muster he has a 5-4 record including a straight set victory on clay.
Against Bruguera he has a 7-3 record including a straight set victory on clay.
Against Ferrero he has a 2-3 record.
Against Courier he has a 5-7 record including two victories on clay.
That is a 26-21 record in his favor.
Like I said, a prime AA would have been compettive against Nadal on clay.
I suppose you think nadal would wipe the floor clean with him (6-0,6-0,6-0)?? Agassi isn't the players of today that Nadal is dominating on the stuff>> this is Agassi we are talking about >> perhaps one of, if not the greatest baseliner ever. And like I said, he sure as hell wouldn't be standing 10+ feet back on 105-115 mph serves, or for that matter 10-20 feet behind the baseline during rallies.
^^^ Get a life. We are talking about "prime" agassi, and I didn't say he would beat him. I said he would be "competitive". How you find this notion unbelievable is beyond me.
Like I said, you need to get out of nadal's behind.
Of course he would be competitive against Fed on clay. In fact, the slower surface would favor Agassi. He was competitive with fed on hard court in his last 2-3 years on tour. In fact, for a while there>> he was the only guy on tour who was competitive against him and took him to the limit.
And, I'll tell you this>>> those players you mentioned are way better clay courters than the players nadal is facing. And, agassi won that french open by playing amazing defense and turning rallies into offensive stiuations.
Agassi of 1999 would not beat Nadal 3 out of 5 on clay, too many miles on the wheels at that point, and not aggressive enough. Agassi of 1991-92 would have been a tough match for Nadal. He was a lot quicker then and went for bigger putaways. A 100% zoned 21 year old Agassi could beat Nadal at the French.
Yeah because Agassi was real competitve on grass last year in that beatdown at the hands of Nadal, slow grass or not. This is grass. A former Wimby champ against a guy who had a career record of 3-3 on grass prior to that Wimbledon. Agassi couldn´t handle the best clay courters in his era (Muster, Kuerten, Bruguera, Courier, Ferrero) how could he handle perhaps the best clay courter of all time?
Wilander bageled him in the fifth at the french. That was a young full haired Agassi in 1987.