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First off. I don't know what a cushion head is. Secondly. The Maple leafs and their fans are the most overrated thing on the planet.
Boo. Boo.
P.S. Matthews is trash
Boo. Boo.
P.S. Matthews is trash
I ways lucky enough to see them play at the Gardens multiple times playoffs included. Always a blast. To say they're overrated is a bit of a stretch. They' ve been on a bad luck streak for almost 50 yearsTy Domi.
Mats Sundin.
They were awesome
I ways lucky enough to see them play at the Gardens multiple times playoffs included. Always a blast. To say they're overrated is a bit of a stretch. They' ve been on a bad luck streak for almost 50 years
I can remember them from the sixties, I saw all four of their Cup wins then (I was rather young then). That 1962 Leafs team had nine HOF players plus other all-stars in peak form, I rate that team #2 all-time to the Habs from the late fifties.The Leafs will always be the league's biggest laughing stock until they actually win a cup, that's just the truth. All of their cups came in a 6-team league in an era of black and white TV where the Beatles, JFK, and Pele were the biggest names around. No one outside of a few remaining geriatrics have ever seen this team even play for a cup and hell, I don't even remember the last time they won a playoff series.
I don’t understand sh1t.First off. I don't know what a cushion head is. Secondly. The Maple leafs and their fans are the most overrated thing on the planet.
Boo. Boo.
P.S. Matthews is trash
Simple. They get all the love and their players get overrated due to it, such as Matthews, while the best player (McDavid) gets trashed on because he is not a leaf.I don’t understand sh1t.
Do I need to be Canadian to have a clue?
But the fans and TV guys and writers drool all over them and Matthews.The Leafs will always be the league's biggest laughing stock until they actually win a cup, that's just the truth. All of their cups came in a 6-team league in an era of black and white TV where the Beatles, JFK, and Pele were the biggest names around. No one outside of a few remaining geriatrics have ever seen this team even play for a cup and hell, I don't even remember the last time they won a playoff series.
How come I have not been interviewed? Huh? Am I not interesting enough?At least they dont suck that bad these days
Turonno will support them regardless of how they play tbh
This is true. But they are playing in the worst division, and Matthews is overhyped.This is the best Leaf team for decades, fun to watch.
If you put them on the ice against the 1962 Leaf squad, would they win? Probably not, but this is still a relatively young, learning, getting-better team.
That is the point. They have. But as soon as they play a decent team they will lose.Just plan the parade alrady, COVID-19 be damned.
Oh, I think I can understand a bit.Simple. They get all the love and their players get overrated due to it, such as Matthews, while the best player (McDavid) gets trashed on because he is not a leaf.
It would be one thing if they were good, but they always suck and still get all the attention, and now they are good and it is miserable to hear fans and analyst drool over them.
It would be like Barca not winning in 50 years but still having the same love and hype.
But they are hyped every world cup. But Messi isn't over rated. Maybe on the international stage, but Matthews is not even top 5 best player in the world and they treat him like Gretzky (Pele).Oh, I think I can understand a bit.
It’s like in Argentina, where we have Messi, the presumably best active football player in the world, who hasn’t won anything with his National Team.
Well, I actually still didn’t understand. Nevermind.But they are hyped every world cup. But Messi isn't over rated. Maybe on the international stage, but Matthews is not even top 5 best player in the world and they treat him like Gretzky (Pele).
Think every next gen we have ever talked about and drooled over when they did nothing. This is Matthews and the Leafs.Well, I actually still didn’t understand. Nevermind.
I can see what you mean, but sorry, you got me wrong. I have never drooled on any NextGenner. I am totally immune to them.Think every next gen we have ever talked about and drooled over when they did nothing. This is Matthews and the Leafs.
The vaccine worked. Good. It has not for the sinner lovers like @Nole SlamI can see what you mean, but sorry, you got me wrong. I have never drooled on any NextGenner. I am totally immune to them.
The only thing I have in common with him is our unconditional love for Spencer.
Matthews and Marner are good.This is true. But they are playing in the worst division, and Matthews is overhyped.
Marner is good, and of course Matthews is great, but he is not the best player in the league like they make him out to be. Remember, this is by far the weakest division too.Matthews and Marner are good.
Sure, they take some time to work up to the Cup winner level, but that usually takes time.
You never know until playoff time, this year the Canuck teams have all improved.Marner is good, and of course Matthews is great, but he is not the best player in the league like they make him out to be. Remember, this is by far the weakest division too.
The only thing I have in common with him is our unconditional love for Spencer.
There you go, 1962....almost 60 years ago when neither of my parents were alive lolI can remember them from the sixties, I saw all four of their Cup wins then (I was rather young then). That 1962 Leafs team had nine HOF players plus other all-stars in peak form, I rate that team #2 all-time to the Habs from the late fifties.
The Leafs are the equivalent to England's national football team....they're the so-called "home" of football with loud arrogant fans but like the Leafs, they also haven't won jack s*** internationally since the 60sI don’t understand sh1t.
Do I need to be Canadian to have a clue?
Oh I'm not a Leafs fan (far from one) but Matthews is genuinely a very good player...this kid is gonna dynamite for years to come. The Leafs on the other hand are no closer to the cup though imo. They're clearly beating up on a crappy group and if you were to put them in the same division with Pittsburgh, Boston, Washington and Philly, they probably wouldn't make the playoffs this yearBut the fans and TV guys and writers drool all over them and Matthews.
Dont get me wrong, he is a great player, but he is no McDavid or Mackinnon.Oh I'm not a Leafs fan (far from one) but Matthews is genuinely a very good player...this kid is gonna dynamite for years to come. The Leafs on the other hand are no closer to the cup though imo. They're clearly beating up on a crappy group and if you were to put them in the same division with Pittsburgh, Boston, Washington and Philly, they probably wouldn't make the playoffs this year
only you could create a thread with this title heredon't follow a season so much so far, a stupid schedule this year btw, hopefully it will go back to normal next year...about matthews yea he's def not the best in the league, don't you think also that he looks like raonic, or is it just meDont get me wrong, he is a great player, but he is no McDavid or Mackinnon.
you didn't catch it coz in your head there's no such a thing as pele over maradona that's why it was a barrier that prevented you from catching lleyton' ideathey try to make him better than he really is and overhype is coming stronk as a result, whereas messi is truly the best player in the world, hence the hype is justified, that's the difference between themWell, I actually still didn’t understand. Nevermind.
I'll never be sure if that's a good or bad thingAt least they dont suck that bad these days
Turonno will support them regardless of how they play tbh
With only 6 major league hockey teams, and about 110 players on the rosters, the competition was tough, the teams would be competitive today.This is how much has changed since the last time the Leafs won the cup in May 1967:
- There were only 6 teams in the NHL
- Moon landing did not happen yet
- African Americans were still legally segregated in most of the US
- MLK and RFK were still alive
- The Super Bowl did not exist
- Tennis Open Era did not exist
- Three-point line did not exist in NBA
- Bill Russell and the Celtics won the NBA Title....yes old a** Bill Russell and his Celtics were the reigning champ the last time Leafs won
- England were the reigning World Cup Champs (my goodness how times have changed lol)
- Gretzky & Lemieux were 6 and 2 years old, respectively (Crosby was more than 20 years from being born)
- Height of the counter-culture era
- Height of British Invasion Mania
- Cold War and Vietnam War were still ongoing
- Penny Lane by The Beatles were the number one song
- Colored TV did not exist
- Cell phones did not exist
- Computers did not exist
- Queen and Led Zeppelin did not exist
- Chevy Camero was the top selling car
- Canada's Charter of Rights & Freedoms did not exist
- My mother was not born yet; my dad was just 3
- The Twin Towers were not built yet (they’ve now been gone for nearly 20 years)
- Greater Toronto had 2.2 million people; we now have nearly 6.5 million living in the GTA
- The average age of a Toronto resident in 2020 is 41 years old (this most recent cup happened 53/54 years ago)
I do agree here, so the original 6 competition argument falls flat... but that still does not make me understand why Toronto gets all the special treatment today.With only 6 major league hockey teams, and about 110 players on the rosters, the competition was tough, the teams would be competitive today.
I'd love to hear @Steve0904 's opinion on this
Dont get me wrong, he is a great player, but he is no McDavid or Mackinnon.
Oh I'm not a Leafs fan (far from one) but Matthews is genuinely a very good player...this kid is gonna dynamite for years to come. The Leafs on the other hand are no closer to the cup though imo. They're clearly beating up on a crappy group and if you were to put them in the same division with Pittsburgh, Boston, Washington and Philly, they probably wouldn't make the playoffs this year
Your not understanding me. I think he is a great player and will be a top 5 player for the next decade.I don’t think this is true. I think McDavid is better than him, but he’s on the level of McKinnon at least, and if he wins an award this year you can’t say he didn’t deserve it. The kid has been awesome since he came in the league. To be quite honest, if you’re underrating Matthews it means you haven’t watched enough Leafs games.
The schedules are too wonky this year to know how good teams really are. Toronto will lose to Boston or something like they always do.
Your not understanding me. I think he is a great player and will be a top 5 player for the next decade.
I just can't stand out the media fawns all over him. It is way too much. When you start saying he is better than Mcdavid, then you have drooled too much.
PlusI have seen too many leaves games in my life. The past 3 were the worst.
Are you a leafs fan?No I think I understood fine. I said McDavid was better than him, but I think him and McKinnon are probably around the same level. The kid gets media attention because he deserves it. Being the leading goal scorer in the league will do that. Just like McDavid gets fawned over in Edmonton, we just accept it because he's the best, and frankly we like it because he's Canadian whereas Matthews is not. Same way in my teenage years I held a grudge for Ovi just because he's Russian and Crosby is Canadian. I'm sure Draisaitl gets fawned over in Germany too. We just don't see it. In fact he won German sportsperson of the year last year after he won the Art Ross.
Are you a leafs fan?
If you don't mind me asking, what region are you from?Yes, but I am not from Toronto so I am not a "plan the parade" type person after they win their first game of the season. I feel like that's an important distinction.
What I actually didn’t catch, was your post.you didn't catch it coz in your head there's no such a thing as pele over maradona that's why it was a barrier that prevented you from catching lleyton' ideathey try to make him better than he really is and overhype is coming stronk as a result, whereas messi is truly the best player in the world, hence the hype is justified, that's the difference between them
May I suggest a strongly worded letter?I just wish the Leafs at present were given more credit from fans of the other Canadian teams to accept that the Leafs are most likely the best team in Canada