2021 US Open QF: [1] Novak Djokovic vs [6] Matteo Berrettini

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Federer and Del Potro

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MeatTornado

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Rickenbacker4003 said:
Nobody mentions that because Joker has made it to the maximum of every slam this year the possibility of him being burnt out mentally and physically is a realistic issue.
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He's compensated for that by barely playing outside them. No Doha, no Dubai, no Miami. No Queens. No Cincinnati.

The mental crunch is harder to measure, I'll give you that. If he loses this tourny I think it's more likely from mental burnout than physical.
 
junior74

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Being in this position, ranked 8 and reaching late rounds in slams with the weakest backhand on the tour... incredible.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1

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tudwell said:
After the way he won the French, I’m not writing any death sentences for Novak. He can still win this tournament. He has the game and the physical reserves, it’s all about handling the pressure mentally.
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We can never write him as history shows us that. That being side his form is not near title winning level
 
Mivic

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nachiket nolefam said:
Berrettini is not a musetti or Rune. He is fit like a tank. Novak lost the set at 80 mins. It doesn't even make sense now.
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Novak will still most likely win this match but Zverev and Medvedev back to back after 3 hours plus against Berrettini at 34 years old coming off a 3 slam season is brutal. Super impressive if he can get it done.
 
TennisFan3

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ForehandCross said:
Isn't it a testament to Djokovic's Greatness that he just feels like a invincible monster that you just can't expect to be beaten?
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He is stronger physically and he knows he can hang around for a long long time. Berretinni will soon be spent and zapped out of energy.
 
Kralingen

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tudwell said:
After the way he won the French, I’m not writing any death sentences for Novak. He can still win this tournament. He has the game and the physical reserves, it’s all about handling the pressure mentally.
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It’s really hot and humid there, I’m in NY right now. If there’s one thing Djokovic hates it’s being hot under the collar. He doesn’t have the power to hit through Zed/Med and they’ll be happy to rally him to death as they have better serves. Dogfights are not a good sign.

he’s obviously not done but as someone who tries to find edges betting, the edge is betting on one of them to pull the upset.
 
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Djoker is a fitness freak but not even he has it in him to tough these 3 rounds out. Not at 34 and and suffering obvious burn out. He's gonna have to break the record in Australia. Historically Flushing has always been his Achilles heel too. Definitely his weakest slam form/level wise
 
nolefam_2024

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Mivic said:
Novak will still most likely win this match but Zverev and Medvedev back to back after 3 hours against Berrettini at 34 years old coming off a 3 slam season is brutal. Super impressive if he can get it done.
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I don't think he is even winning this match. Berrettini is very up a level from other players he beat in USopen. People ridicule Berrettini but he has big game.
 
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Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
That may be all she wrote. Djoker needed to get this done in straight sets to have a shot. Not be in a dogfight and his level just isn't there
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Why that pessimistic with Novak? He isn't playing too well, but surely he won't go down on fitness, even if he always plays 5 sets until Sunday. Playing Best of 5 every second day isn't too exhausting to continue. Playing a Masters with 3 sets every day would be harder. Especially Djokovic has shown this time and time again.
 
TennisFan3

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Matteo time on court was 2 hrs 25 mins more than Novak into the QF. Novak spend 10.xx hours and Berra spend 12.xx hours.

So a longer match favors Novak more obviously.
 
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Kralingen said:
It’s really hot and humid there, I’m in NY right now. If there’s one thing Djokovic hates it’s being hot under the collar. He doesn’t have the power to hit through Zed/Med and they’ll be happy to rally him to death as they have better serves. Dogfights are not a good sign.

he’s obviously not done but as someone who tries to find edges betting, the edge is betting on one of them to pull the upset.
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Fair enough. I’m just jaded. I stopped believing in anything after a wheelchair-bound Novak schooled a Medvedev in the form of his life in Australia.
 
MeatTornado

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Berrettini just needs to keep this even until at least 3-3 or 4-4 I'd say. Losing the 2nd set isn't the worst thing in the world here, but immediately giving Novak some momentum back with an early break in the first game or two would be disastrous because then it can unravel and go on too much of a roll. Make Novak work for it.
 
ForehandCross

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To have any chance in this match berretini needs to hold in his first 3 service games AND break Djokovic.

The only way his chances of winning will be greater than 10% will be if he breaks Novak here early for a cushion.

Even if he wins the second set, his chances will only go up to 30%
 
Rickenbacker4003

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MeatTornado said:
He's compensated for that by barely playing outside them. No Doha, no Dubai, no Miami. No Queens. No Cincinnati.

The mental crunch is harder to measure, I'll give you that. If he loses this tourny I think it's more likely from mental burnout than physical.
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He played the Olympics and he hit a wall physically. So he's played enough to be physically spent.
 
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ChrisRF said:
Why that pessimistic with Novak? He isn't playing too well, but surely he won't go down on fitness, even if he always plays 5 sets until Sunday. Playing Best of 5 every second day isn't too exhausting to continue. Playing a Masters with 3 sets every day would be harder. Especially Djokovic has shown this time and time again.
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Doesn't matter, Hes burned out and has a hellish road ahead. If he loses the 2nd set, he won't even win this match. If he does come back from 2 sets down somehow, you still got more a rested Zverev/Med waiting on you. If it was the start of the season it would be different
 
Federer and Del Potro

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ForehandCross said:
To have any chance in this match berretini needs to hold in his first 3 service games AND break Djokovic.

The only way his chances of winning will be greater than 10% will be if he breaks Novak here early for a cushion.

Even if he wins the second set, his chances will only go up to 30%
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If Matteo wins 3 sets tonight I'd put his chances to advance at around 50 percent knowing Next Gen.
 
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