Djokovic beat Rafa and Roger...
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Winners or Errors
Legend
Epic to beat mid 30s Federer when Djoker was in his best year? Not sure I agree with that - as it should have happened. Nadal was just befuddled by Djoker at the time as I recall. That was impressive.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Give it up, for Mr. Randy Watson!!! 
Hitman
Bionic Poster
So both were pretty medicore things really. No big deal really.
Winners or Errors
Legend
No, I think the Rafa streak was impressive. Djoker really had his number. I remember Nadal being pretty shaken.
I don't think beating mid-30s Fed three times during his best year was as impressive. It's what should have happened.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
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Deleted member 762343
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Djokovic beating Nadal 7 times in a row was pretty brutal.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
What was brutal about it was that it happened from out of no where. Nobody saw 2011 coming. We were all shocked by what happened.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Rafa streak was more impressive because Fed was 33-34 , but we need to accept it noone else was beating Rafa and Fed in those slams .
He directly took away 6 slams from them in a period of 12-14 months !
He directly took away 6 slams from them in a period of 12-14 months !
Hitman
Bionic Poster
USO 2011 is a toss up between Federer and Nadal, but he brat them both, so its still the 6 slams overall
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That's why a lot of Fedal fans never coped, with Federer fans pretending he was heavily declined and Nadal fans acting as if Primedal wasn't in splendid form.
Zetty
Hall of Fame
That's actually happened twice
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Deleted member 762343
Guest
That's actually happened twice
Well the second time wasn't really impressive, considering Nadal's form back then. Whereas nobody could touch 2011 Primedal except Djokovic, both of them were on another level.
RelentlessAttack
Hall of Fame
Nadal came back after AO12 with a 6-1 record through USO13 so at the time it felt like he got him back for the 2011 stunner, but that run in summer 13 was like the last gasp of prime Nadal and Djokovic has totally had his number since then.
2011 is definitely by far Djokovic’s most impressive period though because all of his main competitors were still pretty strong even if it wasn’t each of their absolute best years.
2011 is definitely by far Djokovic’s most impressive period though because all of his main competitors were still pretty strong even if it wasn’t each of their absolute best years.
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
Turned around and lost 6 of 7.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Again turned around and beat 7 times in a row !
The Fedfather
Legend
2011-2012 over Rafa was quite epic. Doesn't feel right to equate the 2015-2016 wins over Roger with that.
topher
Hall of Fame
And 5-4 since then, Rafa's favor. 5-2 off HC, 0-3 off clay, 5-3 off-grass.
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gjm127
Hall of Fame
Yes. But the streak would have ended at 3 had Djokovic beaten Fed at the RG SF that year.
ChaelAZ
G.O.A.T.
Man, I feel bad for Djo fanatics since they continually have to post threads about how things are "epic" to sooth whatever hole in their lives they have. Serious. Like several a day now. I imagine them at home, posting, then ripping their shirts off like they are Djo himself. Seriously...
Hitman
Bionic Poster
How exactly?
Djokovic's four wins against Nadal in this period were Wimbledon 2018, AO 2019, ATP Cup 2020 and RG 2021. So it should be 0-3 off clay and 5-1 on clay, with his five wins being Madrid 2017, Rome 2018, Rome 2019, RG 2020 and Rome 2021.
topher
Hall of Fame
You're right, I gave Novak an extra win there, fixed.
beard
Legend
Who would beat them if Novak didn't do that?
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Not at all epic. Now had he beaten them 2005-2010 we’d be talking.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Fed being 7-1 against Nadal after turning 34 is pretty amazing too. Not "brutal" since Rafa dominated him in earlier years, but massively impressive nonetheless.
goldengate14
Professional
Djokovic still third of the three unfortunately. That is why NY and Tokyo were so important for him. However he has 2022 to correct his dissapointig end of season.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Nadal overcame it, to win 3 straight years at the French Open against Djokovic, and to regain world number 1 in 2013 and beat Djokovic in the US Open final again. Nadal in fact swept that North American hardcourt summer. Rather satisfying when some were saying in 2011 that Nadal wouldn't beat Djokovic again.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
The dynamic between them shifted. Nadal in more recent years is more aggressive and tries to shorten points more. That helps him against the field, but not against Federer. Federer also hits more flat out against Nadal. Nadal needs the spin and grinding to beat Federer, high to the backhand in particular.
Sunny014
Legend
Nadal has been 3rd of the three.
2000-2010 - Fed won 16 slams and some 270 odd weeks at 1, Nadal won 9 slams and was 100 odd weeks at 1
2011-2021 - Djokovic won 19 slams and some 340 odd weeks as 1, Nadal won 11 slams and was 109 odd weeks at 1
So Nadal has been 2nd to both the champions in their peak, greatest number 2 and hence the third wheel.
Madinolf
Rookie
7 finals of 7 big tournaments across all three surfaces.
Peak Djokovic is easily BOAT.
goldengate14
Professional
That is not how the perception is among the public and players. The Nadal Golden Career Slam has to put him on top of the pile purely because of the hyperbole Agassi got when he was only player to have it before Rafa arrived. Agassi was always introduced as the Golden Slam winner.
It does seem there is a degree of insecurity among those who dislike Nadal. Every achievement he has is attempted to be dismissed. His statue is even criticised lol. Examples are
1. 13 FOs shows clay court tennis is meaningless and is too many to be a GOAT
2. His golden slam is irrelevant as gold medals mean nothig (despite players saying the exact opposite)
3. Wimbledon 2008 was an awful match and Nadal won because of bad light (the inference must be Nadal was wearing night vision contact lenses)
4. Nadal has an inflated Us Open record due weak draws.
I am not actually a fan of Nadal particularly but when one sees the nonsense as above it is so laughable it is hard not to warm to the guy.
Federer is right there with Nadal. I like Djokovic but i just do not see how he is anythig but third of this era.
That is not being disrespectful to Djokovic. Just an honest opinion shared by the majority of tennis fans if the ATP comment sections are anythig to go by.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Ok bud
Winners or Errors
Legend
Yup, Med may not have saved tennis, but he definitely saved TT.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Only delayed the inevitable. All bow to the rightful king!
WildRevolver
Hall of Fame
You can definitely sense them having to suppress tears as they feign a smile.
He's no king, that's why he has such a chip on his shoulder.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Ok, emperor
No problem, peon.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
In 2015-2016, Federer was far from his peak. 34-35 yo Federer was still a formidable opponent, but let's not kid ourselves, it's not like Federer was as good as he once had been.
he was better...he had to improve his game to compete with Rafa and Novak
RaulRamirez
Legend
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Strale
Semi-Pro
There is nothing wrong with enjoying epic wins from the goat..
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Hahaha, you're joking, aren't you?
It's 6-1
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