Not enough people have tried tier 1 strings

time410s

Semi-Pro
I think of them similarly to solinco but their strings probably offer better tension maintainence and maybe durability as well.

They certainly sit in a great price point and are easily on par with the big names.

I did a review on one of my favorites by them here but I also consider it a favorite string of mine in general.

 

time410s

Semi-Pro
What is so great about them?
Tension maintainence is really good. Exceptionally good. Beyond that, the other traits are very strong and competitive with some of the best, like spin potential and durability. Some strings lean towards comfort a little more and other's more for power or spin but the tension and durability are consistently better in my experience than a lot of my other go-to strings.

Strings like Volkl Cyclone or even some Luxilon stuff, Solinco Hyper G and Revolution, Tour Bite.

It's the combination of control/spin/durability and feel that really make this specific string such a masterpiece for me. It has a unique feel as well. Hard to describe. Subtle, but you might notice it.
 

ryushen21

Legend
I don't disagree with you. @TierOneSportsOfficial offer great strings although I do think that their marketing is a little skewed towards Firewire and Black Knight. Tour Status has been the best string in their lineup for me and remains one of my current go-to strings.
 

ryushen21

Legend
have you compared tour status to the durafluxx?
I have not. Durafluxx seems to be a bit of an oddball in the lineup. The people that I know who have played with it either absolutely hated it or thought it was just "ok." Didn't really make me want to go and try it as they described it as incredibly dead.
 
I think of them similarly to solinco but their strings probably offer better tension maintainence and maybe durability as well.

They certainly sit in a great price point and are easily on par with the big names.

I did a review on one of my favorites by them here but I also consider it a favorite string of mine in general.

Thanks for making the effort reviewing one of our strings!
 

Maloya

Rookie
in my opinion, there is no brand that is truly revolutionary.
there are endless brands that would like to become the new Luxilon, to be able to become the absolute reference in the juicy string market.

but for that ,; we should be able to make changes such as luxilon did by switching from S-gut to alu power for example, but it is practically impossible, unless you experiment with any technology other than poly!

Nowadays, each new brand, each new string becomes to read the manufacturers a little better or much better than the others, and it's been ten years that it lasts!

each in turn tries to really innovate, finally, thinks really innovates, but it is only small small, microscopic jumps.

we gain 1 hour of maintenance, or 10% of power, or of comfort, in the eyes of some it remains revolutionary, but ultimately, quite little, when we take a step back, it's never as much as going from S-gut to alu power for example! (or from alu power to full natural gut, in other criteria)

In my opinion, there are strings in all brands that are a bit (barely) really revolutionary, and that only multiplies the micro-variations of the strings.

I also tried a few tier one strings, and yes they do help, but still remain in the "close or similar to" comparison.

To date, after having tested and tried about thirty, fifty different strings, there is always something new that is a little better than, or a little worse than, or both at the same time.

but we forget what the goal of the players is.
we are not testers. the being by trying to hope to find the revolutionary miracle string that will make you play 10 or 20 levels beyond your own, it's pure madness! you will gain these 10 or 20 levels by practicing seriously, and especially by keeping the same parameters of your strings and your rackets.

Why do you think so many great players stay with the same rackets (with makeup on) for years, and the same strings for years?

in my club, there is a player who plays at 7.0 us, and who has always used olds radicals IG MP pro and signum plasma. and never change except the tension every now and then.

and I have another younger friend (28), who competes a lot, who played like me at 5.5-6.0, but who for 5 years has dropped to 4.5-5.0 because as soon as a new racket, a new string comes out, he hastens to buy them to try them out, and hopes that his game will get better! except that he never has time to get used to and progress with these new materials!

the adaptation time with a new racquet at the competition level is several weeks, with a new string, you can go up to several days, and for the right tension too. but alas, in this past time there is always a new string appearing on the market, or at least new tests of a revolutionary, magical and innovative new string! .. result: the players no longer evolve, are no longer players but testers!
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
any v7 blade users try tier 1 black knight?
currently have HG/GW, HGS/polaris that work well but not sure the muted nature of BK would work well in muted blade. I absolutely loved BK in 2019 VCP97 310 but hated it in the super muted 3rd gen pure strike
 

time410s

Semi-Pro
in my opinion, there is no brand that is truly revolutionary.
there are endless brands that would like to become the new Luxilon, to be able to become the absolute reference in the juicy string market.

but for that ,; we should be able to make changes such as luxilon did by switching from S-gut to alu power for example, but it is practically impossible, unless you experiment with any technology other than poly!

Nowadays, each new brand, each new string becomes to read the manufacturers a little better or much better than the others, and it's been ten years that it lasts!

each in turn tries to really innovate, finally, thinks really innovates, but it is only small small, microscopic jumps.

we gain 1 hour of maintenance, or 10% of power, or of comfort, in the eyes of some it remains revolutionary, but ultimately, quite little, when we take a step back, it's never as much as going from S-gut to alu power for example! (or from alu power to full natural gut, in other criteria)

In my opinion, there are strings in all brands that are a bit (barely) really revolutionary, and that only multiplies the micro-variations of the strings.

I also tried a few tier one strings, and yes they do help, but still remain in the "close or similar to" comparison.

To date, after having tested and tried about thirty, fifty different strings, there is always something new that is a little better than, or a little worse than, or both at the same time.

but we forget what the goal of the players is.
we are not testers. the being by trying to hope to find the revolutionary miracle string that will make you play 10 or 20 levels beyond your own, it's pure madness! you will gain these 10 or 20 levels by practicing seriously, and especially by keeping the same parameters of your strings and your rackets.

Why do you think so many great players stay with the same rackets (with makeup on) for years, and the same strings for years?

in my club, there is a player who plays at 7.0 us, and who has always used olds radicals IG MP pro and signum plasma. and never change except the tension every now and then.

and I have another younger friend (28), who competes a lot, who played like me at 5.5-6.0, but who for 5 years has dropped to 4.5-5.0 because as soon as a new racket, a new string comes out, he hastens to buy them to try them out, and hopes that his game will get better! except that he never has time to get used to and progress with these new materials!

the adaptation time with a new racquet at the competition level is several weeks, with a new string, you can go up to several days, and for the right tension too. but alas, in this past time there is always a new string appearing on the market, or at least new tests of a revolutionary, magical and innovative new string! .. result: the players no longer evolve, are no longer players but testers!
There's room to innovate but sure, the market is saturated for strings especially. I think a string often becomes popular because of a gimmick or some kind of endorsement.

In the saturated market of strings I definitely think tier 1 deserves some attention above all of it. They are certainly worthy of the kind of respect solinco gets but they are different at the same time.
 

time410s

Semi-Pro
I have not. Durafluxx seems to be a bit of an oddball in the lineup. The people that I know who have played with it either absolutely hated it or thought it was just "ok." Didn't really make me want to go and try it as they described it as incredibly dead.
I'll try tour status again.
 

eah123

Professional
I think Tier 1s main innovation is Ghost Wire, which first came out in the Firewire Boost Hybrid, and has really caught on with TTW members as a "must try" cross string for poly/poly hybrids. Personally, I did not have a good experience with the other strings I demoed (Black Knight and Firewire). Customer support and price point are excellent, though.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
The great thing about the number of strings that are available today is there is a string or hybrid that is perfect for every individual and their swing, racquet and style of play. The trick, of course, is finding the perfect combination of string and tension for you or a client. I started with Tier One strings in 2016 and Mayami in November 2019. Both Tier One and Mayami Strings offer some solid strings at affordable price points. My favorite T1 strings, which I hybrid the most, are Strike Force RiP, Triump, and of course, Ghost Wire! From Mayami, I keep Absolute Perfection, Tour Hex, Big Spin and Magic Twist in the house. Another favorite string is Toroline's Wasabi. Caviar and Absolute get more attention on the forum but Wasabi, which is meh for me in full bed setup, is a very nice cross string with triangle-shaped strings like Big Spin and FireWire.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I think of them similarly to solinco but their strings probably offer better tension maintainence and maybe durability as well.

They certainly sit in a great price point and are easily on par with the big names.

I did a review on one of my favorites by them here but I also consider it a favorite string of mine in general.

are there any that are as stiff as lux 4g?
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Ghostwire is pretty sweet. Has good spin and great comfort. What’s nice is for the low stiffness, it has good tension maintenance and is low powered.
 

jugheadfla

Semi-Pro
I received Tier 1's experimental sample set a couple weeks ago, but I haven't had the chance to hit with it yet. There are absolutely no details or specs for it, but its white and seems round to me. I'll have to provide some feedback once I hit with it

@TierOneSportsOfficial is there any info you can provide about the sample? Maybe at least just gauge or shape if any? want to know what tension I would want to string it at to give it a fair comparison

edit: sorry, I'm referring to the poly not the multi
 
I received Tier 1's experimental sample set a couple weeks ago, but I haven't had the chance to hit with it yet. There are absolutely no details or specs for it, but its white and seems round to me. I'll have to provide some feedback once I hit with it

@TierOneSportsOfficial is there any info you can provide about the sample? Maybe at least just gauge or shape if any? want to know what tension I would want to string it at to give it a fair comparison

edit: sorry, I'm referring to the poly not the multi
It is a 17g string. We recommend stringing it like any other poly. We purposefully do not provide any addition information so the play testers approach the testing completely unbiased. Thank you for your understanding.
 

BPlain

Semi-Pro
@TierOneSportsOfficial do you have stiffness ratings for your strings to assess the arm friendliness of the various options ?

StringGaugeTension LossStiffness
Ghost Wire 12716 / co-polyester16.27188
Ghost Wire 12217 / co-polyester14.77181
Ghost Wire 11718 / co-polyester18.69167
Ghost Wire 11019 / co-polyester23.77146
T1-Black Knight 11818 / co-polyester17.84173
T1-Black Knight 12317 / co-polyester15.39197
T1-Black Knight 12816 / co-polyester14.95203
T1 Firewire 12018 / co-polyester15.41195
T1 Firewire 12517 / co-polyester13.85221
T1 Firewire 13016 / co-polyester14.18236
DuraFluxx 11818 / co-polyester20.27196
DuraFluxx 12317 / co-polyester15.67231
DuraFluxx 12816 / co-polyester16.87244
Tour Status 12018 / co-polyester15.86206
Tour Status 12517 / co-polyester16.49217
Tour Status 13016 / co-polyester14.66236
Strike Force Rip 11818 / co-polyester19.31171
Strike Force Rip 12317 / co-polyester21.94183
Strike Force Rip 12816 / co-polyester20.49199
Firewire Boost 18 (NESO-2)18 / co-polyester18.69167
Firewire Boost 17 (NESO-2)17 / co-polyester14.77181
Firewire Boost 16 (NESO-2)16 / co-polyester16.27188
Triumph 12517 / multifilament12.35146
Triumph 13016 / multifilament12.13174
 

gino

Legend
StringGaugeTension LossStiffness
Ghost Wire 12716 / co-polyester16.27188
Ghost Wire 12217 / co-polyester14.77181
Ghost Wire 11718 / co-polyester18.69167
Ghost Wire 11019 / co-polyester23.77146
T1-Black Knight 11818 / co-polyester17.84173
T1-Black Knight 12317 / co-polyester15.39197
T1-Black Knight 12816 / co-polyester14.95203
T1 Firewire 12018 / co-polyester15.41195
T1 Firewire 12517 / co-polyester13.85221
T1 Firewire 13016 / co-polyester14.18236
DuraFluxx 11818 / co-polyester20.27196
DuraFluxx 12317 / co-polyester15.67231
DuraFluxx 12816 / co-polyester16.87244
Tour Status 12018 / co-polyester15.86206
Tour Status 12517 / co-polyester16.49217
Tour Status 13016 / co-polyester14.66236
Strike Force Rip 11818 / co-polyester19.31171
Strike Force Rip 12317 / co-polyester21.94183
Strike Force Rip 12816 / co-polyester20.49199
Firewire Boost 18 (NESO-2)18 / co-polyester18.69167
Firewire Boost 17 (NESO-2)17 / co-polyester14.77181
Firewire Boost 16 (NESO-2)16 / co-polyester16.27188
Triumph 12517 / multifilament12.35146
Triumph 13016 / multifilament12.13174
Thanks a lot appreciate that
 
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StringGaugeTension LossStiffness
Ghost Wire 12716 / co-polyester16.27188
Ghost Wire 12217 / co-polyester14.77181
Ghost Wire 11718 / co-polyester18.69167
Ghost Wire 11019 / co-polyester23.77146
T1-Black Knight 11818 / co-polyester17.84173
T1-Black Knight 12317 / co-polyester15.39197
T1-Black Knight 12816 / co-polyester14.95203
T1 Firewire 12018 / co-polyester15.41195
T1 Firewire 12517 / co-polyester13.85221
T1 Firewire 13016 / co-polyester14.18236
DuraFluxx 11818 / co-polyester20.27196
DuraFluxx 12317 / co-polyester15.67231
DuraFluxx 12816 / co-polyester16.87244
Tour Status 12018 / co-polyester15.86206
Tour Status 12517 / co-polyester16.49217
Tour Status 13016 / co-polyester14.66236
Strike Force Rip 11818 / co-polyester19.31171
Strike Force Rip 12317 / co-polyester21.94183
Strike Force Rip 12816 / co-polyester20.49199
Firewire Boost 18 (NESO-2)18 / co-polyester18.69167
Firewire Boost 17 (NESO-2)17 / co-polyester14.77181
Firewire Boost 16 (NESO-2)16 / co-polyester16.27188
Triumph 12517 / multifilament12.35146
Triumph 13016 / multifilament12.13174
For tension loss, does a smaller number indicate less tension loss = better tension maintenance?
 

ryushen21

Legend
I agree. Tier One strings are what I recommend to all my players. They are incredibly affordable and probably the best performing string to hit the market recently.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
They are incredibly affordable and probably the best performing string to hit the market recently.
Tier One strings are average at best. They most certainly do not sit with the higher end strings.
LOL. Talk Tennis at its finest...

I'm sure both your opinions are backed by experience -- care to share how, specifically, you feel they outperform other options at similar cost, and/or how they fall short of "higher end" strings, and what specific brand/model "higher end" strings you're referring to?
 

TennisJrDad

Professional
I am going to reiterate what I have shared before: String choice is highly indvidual - what may be the greatest string for one may be horrible for another. I have nothing but respect for Tier One, I think the owner is committed to excellence and customer service and they have very fair pricing. With that said, when we tried BlackKnight, it caused some arm pain pretty quickly and we discontinued its use and moved on to other strings.

LOL. Talk Tennis at its finest...

I'm sure both your opinions are backed by experience -- care to share how, specifically, you feel they outperform other options at similar cost, and/or how they fall short of "higher end" strings, and what specific brand/model "higher end" strings you're referring to?
 

ryushen21

Legend
LOL. Talk Tennis at its finest...

I'm sure both your opinions are backed by experience -- care to share how, specifically, you feel they outperform other options at similar cost, and/or how they fall short of "higher end" strings, and what specific brand/model "higher end" strings you're referring to?
I feel that Tier One strings offer a few distinct advantages:
  1. Affordability - great pricing at retail, practically unbeatable at wholesale
  2. Durability - these strings really get going around 10-12 hours where most poly is dead at that point; have had several jobs last over 20 hours.
  3. Performance - there is a little settling at first, but then the performance stays at a pretty consistent level until the string finally dies
 

ChrisG

Professional
A long time user of tourna silver 7 tour and tier1 blacknight, I’ve recently decided to try (again) luxilon alu power and BBO. I cut BBO after the first hour, and alu power stayed maybe 6h before snapping.
I can’t think any good reason for me to switch to these high end strings. I play quite good tennis (a French equivalent of 5.0), BK performance lifespan is unbeatable, S7T is an excellent control string
 

ryushen21

Legend
A long time user of tourna silver 7 tour and tier1 blacknight, I’ve recently decided to try (again) luxilon alu power and BBO. I cut BBO after the first hour, and alu power stayed maybe 6h before snapping.
I can’t think any good reason for me to switch to these high end strings. I play quite good tennis (a French equivalent of 5.0), BK performance lifespan is unbeatable, S7T is an excellent control string
Yep. There are plenty who say that Lux strings are the absolute best until they die/break after 4 hours.

I love Lux Element Rough but I am looking for a replacement for it.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
LOL. Talk Tennis at its finest...

I'm sure both your opinions are backed by experience -- care to share how, specifically, you feel they outperform other options at similar cost, and/or how they fall short of "higher end" strings, and what specific brand/model "higher end" strings you're referring to?

I tried both Black Knight and Tour Status each in 17 and 16 gauge. Strung full beds in the low 40's in my modified PS97. Both strings offered nice control and decent tension maintenance. But both strings were unbelievably low in power potential and were horrendous in the feel dept. IMHO these strings may be o.k. in a tweener frame. But are terrible in a players frame. Will never give either another chance in any frame I ever use.
 

tim-ay

Legend
we all look for different things. Black Knight is not low powered enough for me in some frames. It’s about as powerful a string as I ever will use. If i’m using a power frame, then Durafluxx is even better. It’s even more durable and even less power, very controlled.

Alu is great, but it is only special for such a short time then it is below average (I would say 2 hours… 3 hours is pushing it. for the specialness anyway).

BK is great in frames like PK’s, Ultra Pro, Blade Pro, Radical, ….

Durafluxx is great in power frames… even better for Blade Pro, Clash Pro, Pure Drive, Pure Drive +, Aero, some PK’s (my 7G turned into 6G, Blue BLack Ace, …)….

None of the Tier One strings are hard on your arm. Unless you have trouble with full bed poly, then all of them will be.
 
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ryushen21

Legend
After every 4 or 5 hours of play. I basically get two matches out of every string job before I feel the need to tear them out and replace them when they bag out.
I hope you aren't paying retail for your string then.

While Lux may have the best feel, their cost:durability ratio is easily the worst in the industry.

Even the wholesale pricing on Lux would probably be 2-4x what other strings cost.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I hope you aren't paying retail for your string then.

While Lux may have the best feel, their cost:durability ratio is easily the worst in the industry.

Even the wholesale pricing on Lux would probably be 2-4x what other strings cost.
I pay 200 for reels. So not that bad really. But I would like to find something that plays as well and lasts a bit longer.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
In all fairness to @TennisManiac, some people just like what they like, abject of the cost. And he's sampled 20+ others, so it's not like he's not trying to find an alternative...

That said, aside from the obvious of good-enough playability, I would hope you'd be able to find something that lasts you a proper double-digit amount of hours, for the sheer savings in waste alone (*thinking about a massive trash pile of spent Alu Power...* ....I can't even imagine the level of waste at an ATP event...).
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
A long time user of tourna silver 7 tour and tier1 blacknight, I’ve recently decided to try (again) luxilon alu power and BBO. I cut BBO after the first hour, and alu power stayed maybe 6h before snapping.
I can’t think any good reason for me to switch to these high end strings. I play quite good tennis (a French equivalent of 5.0), BK performance lifespan is unbeatable, S7T is an excellent control string

Tu joues deuxième série? Pas mal du tout! Toujours content de la TC95? J'aime beaucoup ce modele, mais je viens de passer sur la TC97 qui, je trouve, a un peu plus de pêche.

Back to English: the only caveat to your comment on the Luxilon string, in my experience, is 4G / 4G Soft, which are very, very durable. In particular, I really liked 4G Soft in an open string pattern, to tame the launch angle, but gave it up after starting to use 18x20 patterns that I felt suited my game better.

I will have to try BK, since everyone keeps recommending it. Problem is that no one seems to carry it in Hong Kong, and it's difficult to get a stringer to agree to string with a set they don't sell.
 

ChrisG

Professional
Tu joues deuxième série? Pas mal du tout! Toujours content de la TC95? J'aime beaucoup ce modele, mais je viens de passer sur la TC97 qui, je trouve, a un peu plus de pêche.

Back to English: the only caveat to your comment on the Luxilon string, in my experience, is 4G / 4G Soft, which are very, very durable. In particular, I really liked 4G Soft in an open string pattern, to tame the launch angle, but gave it up after starting to use 18x20 patterns that I felt suited my game better.

I will have to try BK, since everyone keeps recommending it. Problem is that no one seems to carry it in Hong Kong, and it's difficult to get a stringer to agree to string with a set they don't sell.
FR on : Oui je suis 15 actuellement ! j'ai repris le tennis y a 4 ans, à 38 ans et c'est pas facile de se dégager du temps pour les tournois avec la famille et le boulot + les blessures (je viens d'annuler 2 tournois de Noël...:cry:). Mais quand tout va bien (rarement o_O) je perf à 4/6 ! je pense que mon niveau se situe entre 5/6 et 4/6 à l'heure actuelle (j'ai gagné 2 fois à 15 puis à 5/6 le mois dernier avant de me blesser).
Quand j'ai repris (après plus de 20 ans d'arrêt), je connaissais rien au matériel et j'ai repris avec une pure aero qui ma défoncé l'épaule. c'est comme ça que je suis tombé sur Angell et la TC95 16x19. Depuis c'est ma raquette de compétition, mais j'adore acheté des raquettes et je test plein de trucs mais rien qui me fait switcher. j'ai eu TC100 mais trop puissant et K7 red, pas assez précis. J'ai hésité avec TC97, mais j'ai déjà des I.Prestige MP et Ultra tour que j'adore mais je voulais basculer sur quelque chose de plus "facile". TC95 c'est un super compromis même si ça manque de contrôle parfois (je devrais essayer la version 18x20 ?). après je joue sur terre et j'ai besoin de puissance et de spin "gratuit" sans être non plus trop moderne vu que je joue assez recouvert/plat. Intéressant ce que tu dis sur la TC97 ayant plus de pêche par rapport à la TC 95, j'aurais cru l'inverse ! mais peut être tu parles de la 18x20 ?
 
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