Congrats Team HEAD
- Thread starter dr325i
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Purestriker
Legend
Yes, ATP year end finals. Interesting enough the WTA is a little different.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Cilic is wearing all head and so is Krejickova on the WTA side.
I believe Head was too late to the game although I love their high end clothing (still 1/2 price from Nike or Adidas) and bias aside, I still believe that Head shoes are some of the best in industry, especially after being the Barricade used for about 15 years…
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Good point, fixed, thank you
HitMoreBHs
Professional
3 of 5 (ATP) use pro-stock versions of a Graphene HEAD racquet. Two use a current model. So much for the idea that Graphene racquets are somehow substandard. Go HEAD!
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Having spent some time at the HQ, I’d say Head is more of a moms and pap’s shop rather than true corporate environment. Everyone absolutely loves what they do, everyone’s voice is heard (therefore a lot of our inputs are incorporated into 360+ and Auxetic lines), and everyone is super nice and approachable.
I am glad they kept it as a private company vs shareholder public machine. That said, Marketing side is constantly improving - something very important in todays world.
I am also glad they have kept full manufacturing facilities (tennis and other sports) in Kennelbach
Roads_to_tennis
Rookie
hey
I also wanna work for some tennis brands
did you had some particular kind of research??
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
I don't think he's an employee.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Correct, not employed or paid by Head but a member of Team Head (think of it I have my own little black sticker haha)
TennisHound
Legend
Which one’s use off-the-shelf retail?
Lavs
Hall of Fame
80% Skis
HitMoreBHs
Professional
No one, they use pro-stock versions. TGT and TGK differences have been discussed, debated and beaten to death on TTW.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
What is the point of your question??
What pro exactly is using off the shelf stick, uncustomized?
Let’s think why you haven’t listed WTA Finals players brand list…. Ups, we know why. Because it is nothing hyping Head.
ImportPer4mance
New User
Yes congrats to the head gravity pro! Completely outplayed the technifibre! The Gravity Pro was in a league of its own! What a beast! I’m gunna order one tomorrow, can’t wait to see you all at the AO finals! It’s unbelievable guys, you can buy a 300 dollar racquet and win millions without practicing or doing anything!!
TennisHound
Legend
He stated “3 of 5 (ATP) use pro-stock versions of a Graphene HEAD racquet. Two use a current model…”
If 3 out of 5 use pro-stocks, which two use off-the-shelf retail sticks (customized or in-customized)? Im just asking a question.
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HitMoreBHs
Professional
Your appetite for being contrary got you so excited you evidently didn’t read my post through and realise that it’s in the context of Graphene racquets. The other two use pro-stock versions of… ah why do I even bother. You just want to stir, so do as you please.
TennisHound
Legend
I have nothing against Head. They have been very pro-active with new models and have excellent pro stocks. The 360+ tech works (at masking the Graphene feel). Sinner and probably Rublev use current retail based frames. But the top two use non-graphene, and I would bet there’s a lot more who do.
TennisHound
Legend
Lol, Krejokiva is obviously using a 360 Extreme, but I would say for almost certain that Mertens is not using a retail Graphene 360 Speed MP.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
but still racket can't serve
TennisHound
Legend
You guys are too uptite. Carry on with your revelry.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Another stellar post! I guess that’s why Zverev hit a second serve ace on match point. It’s not the racquet but the player/server. Lots of great servers play with HEAD
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Krejickova, Barty, Teichmann all using pro stock versions of the retail sticks with Barry using 16x19 drill of Gravity Pro. Mertens is using the PT339.2
Krejickova TGT285, previous version of extreme. Teichmann TGT339.2, same as off the shelf Speed MP
TennisHound
Legend
We know that you know all these codes and stuff. Basically what you said was they are all using pro stocks, and that’s okay.
Is my original question really worth all this? I guess if we don’t get on the “Head is the greatest racquet in the world” bandwagon, then we’re just haters, or just ignorant.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
As I explained many times, the pro stock (TGT) is just an off the shelf retail stick without commercial weights to allow for easy Pro player customization.
Almost no pro player plays with generalized retail racket spec so…yeah, your question was pointless…
fundrazer
G.O.A.T.
As was this thread.
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
He's a giant. Serving is physically way easier for people like him.
ImportPer4mance
New User
Lol what are you talking about? Everyone in this thread knows that serving is not about your physical make-up. It’s all about the racquet. The player is just there so to ensure that the serve is actually legal. Racquet does all the work. That’s common knowledge…. Go team HEAD!
Yes I didn't say Head wasn't represented just had 1 racquet in WTA singles, but if OP was objective he would also put WTA Finals racquet summary but it was skipped because it was not as great looking for Head as ATP.............
But in the WTA Finals we had:
3 Wilson racquets: Badosa, Sabalenka, Sakkari
3 Babolat racquets: Muguruza, Kontaveit and Pliskova
1 TF racquet: Swiatek
1 Head racquet: Krejcikova
So a big success for Babolat tied for the most racquets and both finalists used Babolat!!
Also great achievement for WIlson to have 3 players and 2 in the SFs!!! Also doubles world no 1 is using Wilson!
And congrats TF as now they have 2 TOP10 players in both mens and womens field!!!
I know he doesn't. Just what I expect is objective information and not showing only good side of one company and skipping all other information which is showing worse side or good side of other companies.
An objective information for example is "Medvedev using Tecnifibre racquet defeated Djokovic in US Open Final" but instead we see thread like "Head was 50% of the racquets in the US Open final" "Head has ATP no 1 and won won 3 other Slams". Of course, this is great for Head to have top players in ATP but why skip all WTA Finals part only because it is not looking that great for Head...
sorry Doc, you may have already said this before, but can i check what does it mean to be a member of Team Head and how did you get involved/what do you do tom participate within the team etc... cos you are able to get all the juicy stuff, which is pretty awesome for the community
. thanks
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
How is that "objective" when Novak won 3 out of 4 slams and 27out of 28 slam matches in 2021. When Novak is ahead by almost 3000 points at the end of 2021 being 10 years older than Medvedev.
Yes, Great that Medvedev won the USO, and great for TF, however, HEAD by far had the most successful 2021 regarding the racket brand.
I congratulated Team Head for the ATP achievements. I did not congratulate them for WTA, or Junior or College tennis. If you wish to do so, create your own thread. Otherwise, if you do not understand a simple point of this thread, so somewhere else and post your garbage please
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Being a part of Team Head means you communicate with various teams and exchange information. I have been passing most of information both ways. When you guys ask about something, I usually get the info and share (unless too much to share). But I also pass this board's requests back to Head about future products and 360+ and Auxetic is an obvious outcome of Team Head collaboration.sorry Doc, you may have already said this before, but can i check what does it mean to be a member of Team Head and how did you get involved/what do you do tom participate within the team etc... cos you are able to get all the juicy stuff, which is pretty awesome for the community
I was also fortunate to spend 3-4 days with those wonderful people at the HQ, test some super interesting rackets and strings, use the next gen stringer, see the 2023 PJs, make a PT57A from scratch, play tennis against former ATP players and then watch them continue playing padel into the evening hours. Amazing place with amazing people!
Power Player
Bionic Poster
This may not be possible, but do you think Head can get to the point where their close to classic feeling new frames - lets say Radical, have that soft, super solid, no vibration feeling even out of the sweet spot without losing all the modern power they have in them?
I think the new Radical MP was a great return to it's classic and feel in the sweet spot, but when I use a frame like the Dunlop CX its a lot more comfortable and I feel the difference (no vibrations outside the sweet spot).
This is probably not attainable yet, but I thought I'd ask. I tried the last Prestige Mid and it also had a really nice sweet spot, but coming from my Blade v7, just didn't have nearly the same comfort as my Austrian Radical or PT280. Not bashing the frames or anything, just curious how great they can get the feel to the classics.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
360+ Prestige MP/Auxetic Prestige Pro has that classic feel. I’ve had former top 10 And top 200-300 Try and were impressed.
However, it is not realistic to expect the PT layup in new retail frames. The cost of materials is just too high to retail it and IP is prohibitive to do it in China.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Nice, yeah I have not tried the new Prestiges yet, but I have heard they are more solid and comfortable. I just value comfort more and more after using the Blade V7 for a year.
Makes sense on the materials, still a bummer. Interesting on the IP, didn't think about that. I am more interested in how good the tech can evolve so maybe on day we can have it all in one frame. Maybe Gravity Pro feel in an easier, whippier package. Something like that.
FootFault18
Rookie
Nice. I see you are in contact with the main Head team.
Could you obtain some grommets in black for the Head Youtek IG Radical Pro? Like the ones Berdych used. Not the caps ones. Just like a regular Radical in 16x19. I think the model is TGT 260.2. I don't know if it is the same as IG Radical Pro.
TennisHound
Legend
So the cost of materials in the new retail Heads is cheaper than in the PT layup?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Yes, PT layups and especially labor are more expensive.
