Pneumated1
Hall of Fame
They always do, but these hung on forever. I think it was the fact that I used GW crosses. Soft on soft. A harsher poly would have shredded them, which I think I would have preferred.
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They always do, but these hung on forever. I think it was the fact that I used GW crosses. Soft on soft. A harsher poly would have shredded them, which I think I would have preferred.
tim-ay
Legend
Apples and Oranges too; I break NRG2 in no time… PPC hangs on hard, significantly longer than any TF or Wilson string. Like you said, good or bad depending on how quickly you break them.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
There are those who enjoy trying every frame and every string and every combination of both at every tension. Then there are those who have found a specific one or two racquet/string combos that work for them and would rather enjoy playing with what they prefer most. Neither approach is wrong as long both are getting enjoyment playing the game.
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Pneumated1
Hall of Fame
Very true. The one TF multi I like is Multifeel because it doesn't move ... ever. But it busts in 16x19s in 2-3 hours, maybe 5-7 in an 18x20.
Vicious49
Legend
I'll experiment with a new string here and there but I'm not giving it multiple chances. There's too many tried and tested strings to waste too much time experimenting. There's way too many variables in tennis so sometimes it's easier to default back to what I'm familiar with.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Got TW on the case to see if I can find a PT2.0 with a little bit of a lower SW. Fully expect this to be my fun frame, but since I am selling off about everything, including my VCP97, I'd love to have something with a feel rating of 10.
Bag will be DunlopTour, PT2.0 and a 2018 VC95 as an emergency backup.
I played really well with the Prince Phantom 93 and I suspect the Head will be easier than that one. So you never know what can happen in this case.
Bag will be DunlopTour, PT2.0 and a 2018 VC95 as an emergency backup.
I played really well with the Prince Phantom 93 and I suspect the Head will be easier than that one. So you never know what can happen in this case.
Sometimes, the racquet chooses you, it seems.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I said a similar thing with the Dunlop. Now I stopped questioning it and just pull it out of the bag.
JGads
G.O.A.T.
If you can, post the specs of the batch you’re offered. I’d love to see what kind of quality control is on these frames.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Absolutely will post. I was told it may take a few days as these guys are slammed. Is it safe to say that if Im stringing the Dunlop 16x19 at 48 that I can probably string the 2.0 at 46 - full poly?
JGads
G.O.A.T.
I suspect yes. The bed is tight and I see many people prefer this thing strung low to open up the sweet spot. I have no reference from personal stringing (have to check to see what tension my buddy’s is strung) but I envision myself stringing full poly mid 40s. If I don’t find what I’m looking for, bed wise, I’ll consider copying this same NXT/ALU bed I’ve been hitting as it feels like heaven. But maybe that’s the frame. I need some different variables within to really get a better feel as to what’s what. All I can say is that I’m confused. Just thumping the ball with this thing and not making the mistakes I feel like I should be making. Only at the end of the session did I begin to feel the weight a bit, but when I was going back and forth a couple times between this and my UTXL I was hitting deeper and oddly making less mistakes with the PT. Both feel epic. The UT definitely easier to serve with though. That’s one area where I hope the uncapped version can give a bit more ease.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
This is a very similar experience I had with the Phantom 93. It made no sense, so I used it for about a year in Miami to figure it out. I still have 2 of them just because of that magic.
Ill just do my Lynx tour/Element setup as usual to start and go 46#s.
I was hearing that apparently hitting 2 handers with this frame is amazing. Not sure why that is, but that is intriguing.
JGads
G.O.A.T.
It's not Top Banana good (less leverage, way less wiggle room for error) but it is good on the two hander. Probably just because it's a rock. One benefit to the PT in its natural state is there is absolutely no question of lead being necessary anywhere. Not sure if this will hold true on the uncapped version.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Well there is one thing we know for sure. This will be a fun ride.
Gotta add that the vibration frequency of 136 sold me on grabbing one. Sub 140 typically is amazing for me. Dunlop is 138 for example.
I dont think vibration frequency is always a perfect indicator but it typically is better than RA since harsh vibrations are typically at a high frequency, or speed.
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I still remember my first attempts on the Klippermate - what a disaster. 6 years and dozens (or hundreds?) of string jobs later, I'm 'still not very good, but I get the job done. I don't miss the Klippermate (Alpha DC Plus drop weight now). At some point I want to get a Stringway.
PrinceYonex
Semi-Pro
I have two PT2.0’s. The lower SW one is 329. Comparing the PT with the 93p— the PT has more punch, but the 93p is faster thru the air. So the PT has easier power but the 93p is easier to swing. Both are super fun frames that feel great on contact.
PrinceYonex
Semi-Pro
That feeling of just thumping the ball but also knowing that the ball stays in, with great control, is where so much of the magic in this frame is.
n8dawg6
Legend
“the mains are the easy part” they say
let me qualify my “building blocks of success” statement with the fact that success isnt even on the horizon
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
My first was on a prince o port frame with an x-2 dropweight no brake no boomerang tool. Took me over 4 hours.
n8dawg6
Legend
lets just say that the string on this 1st job will be thoroughly pre-stretched (and yes it is a bottom of the barrel x-2). im working on a pure drive bc it does seem to be one of the easier-stringing racquets.
floating clamps suck, btw. but im gonna learn to do it this way so i can appreciate a better machine when the time comes
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Was the finished product even playable?
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Define playable……Was the finished product even playable?
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Ok. So you were able to use it as a fishing net!
n8dawg6
Legend
mine sounds like a harpOk. So you were able to use it as a fishing net!
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Have you had a chance to hit with the rest of your new toys?
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Ball machine tomorrow morning. Then not until Saturday.
Vicious49
Legend
Where are you getting the vibration frequency numbers from?
Addxyz
Hall of Fame
Vicious49
Legend
Damnit!! I really hate you guys.
Played for 4 hours tonight so we were able to get in 5 sets of doubles. I got to rotate through quite a few of my racquets. Ranking all the frames I used tonight in terms of effectiveness and ease of use:
1. VC95/BP - this one was a tie. Id be hard pressed to choose one over the other tonight.
2. Dunlop CX200 Tour - such a nice plush feel with great control
3. Blade v8 16/19 - Very easy frame to use but nothing memorable about it
4. UT - I used to be automatic with this frame but its tough to switch to this after playing with the others listed above it
5. PT2.0 - low launch angle and tough to swing
I used to love dense 18/20 frames but after recently playing with all these 16/19 and 16/20 frames I struggled to use the UT and PT2.0. The launch angle is just so different. It requires me to adjust my stroke to switch back to them. I used to play so well with the UT and even though im a better player now than i was a year ago I found it difficult to use. I get much better net clearance with the VC95 or v8 Blade for example. Its not as fun as hitting laser beams with the UT but it gives me better consistency and ultimately Ive been winning more sets now than i used to with the UT. I hate to say it but youve converted me away from my 18/20 control frames.
Played for 4 hours tonight so we were able to get in 5 sets of doubles. I got to rotate through quite a few of my racquets. Ranking all the frames I used tonight in terms of effectiveness and ease of use:
1. VC95/BP - this one was a tie. Id be hard pressed to choose one over the other tonight.
2. Dunlop CX200 Tour - such a nice plush feel with great control
3. Blade v8 16/19 - Very easy frame to use but nothing memorable about it
4. UT - I used to be automatic with this frame but its tough to switch to this after playing with the others listed above it
5. PT2.0 - low launch angle and tough to swing
I used to love dense 18/20 frames but after recently playing with all these 16/19 and 16/20 frames I struggled to use the UT and PT2.0. The launch angle is just so different. It requires me to adjust my stroke to switch back to them. I used to play so well with the UT and even though im a better player now than i was a year ago I found it difficult to use. I get much better net clearance with the VC95 or v8 Blade for example. Its not as fun as hitting laser beams with the UT but it gives me better consistency and ultimately Ive been winning more sets now than i used to with the UT. I hate to say it but youve converted me away from my 18/20 control frames.
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Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
That sounds very good and melodious.
It only matters how it feels when you hit the ball. But doesn't it feel great that you strung the racquet yourself? I know I love it and enjoy the process very much (I recently got into stringing). I find it very meditative.
All the best.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Learning Center tab on TW... then go down to TW University and find Racquet tab... then pick the option from above... or any of the others.
Hope that helps.
ryushen21
Legend
How about thinking you were tying a knot correctly only to find out you in fact were not.
ryushen21
Legend
It was at this moment that clouds parted, light beamed down upon him, and a choir of angels began to sing. He had found the way.
I'm sure my knot-tying technique would mortify most people, but they work for me and seem to hold well. That's all I care about.
Vicious49
Legend
I'm still not sure if I do it right. There's so many different types of knots out there. I learned stringing from a TennisSpin video. Then I saw the recent TW video about the Wilson knot so I mainly use that one now.
ryushen21
Legend
I know that most of my players won't notice if one of the knots isn't exactly right but my own neuroses require me to do it right every time.
I started with a double-half hitch for simplicity. Then I had many incorrectly executed Parnell knots. Now, I use the correctly executed Parnell for all my tie-offs.
n8dawg6
Legend
when i get to that point, im going to do that wrong too
topspn
Legend
The good news is, frap with grip changed to syntec pro and trimmed OG is 333g and 325 SW and it doesn't feel laborious. This is more maneuverable but i only managed to get in about 20mins yesterday with the other frames i wanted to try. UT is as i expected overall i would say maybe even a bit pleasantly surprised it is not as seemingly anemic as sometimes described. I added weight 2, 10 and 12 with stock grip and OG. Its around 332g and 329SW. Strung with TS @47lbs and i was hitting deep with nice full rich cream feel. Serves are not blistering by any means and require more placement to get the most out of it. Yes, i don't see it as my match stick but happy to have it in the bag for just hitting around sessions.
I think i still prefer BK in my zeus over big spin. Felt a bit less consistent with it yesterday. Missed a few kick serves just wide on the ad side and wasn't as assured on ground strokes. Maybe it was just me being rusty and finding a string to blame. A friend wants to hit outdoor later but i don't know brrrrr
I think i still prefer BK in my zeus over big spin. Felt a bit less consistent with it yesterday. Missed a few kick serves just wide on the ad side and wasn't as assured on ground strokes. Maybe it was just me being rusty and finding a string to blame. A friend wants to hit outdoor later but i don't know brrrrr
JGads
G.O.A.T.
Exactly. Same with the UT or basically the argument for any control stick, but the thump on this one is just a little thicker.
ryushen21
Legend
So it's more thumpy and less thwacky?
JGads
G.O.A.T.
Yep. But it is not for the faint of swing. You've got to play 'up' to the racquet even more so than with a UT. Move the feet, rotate, meet the ball out in front. If you do come up to the frame's level, then the frame will pat you on the shoulder and say, "I'll take it from here my boy."
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I dont even get USTA, I have been playing UTR recently to get my rating there and USTA didn't even record half of my team singles matches last year. It's crazy. What sucks is I think both punish you for not playing, so you have to be active in both. Kind of a hassle. In FL I won a 4.0 league, got moved up to 4.5, got hurt and had to default my matches and got dropped down and then won another league and then stopped playing USTA when I moved. Since then it's been a steady decline in rating even though I just played team usta for a year..lol.
So at this point I am doing UTR singles and then tournaments and ill see what happens.
Yeah dense frames are not as easy to use. Main advantage is you can string them low and the control is super pinpoint. Disadvantage is you don't get the same out of shape on the ball without using extra effort.
Stringing is a high learning curve at first. Like where you will go "Why did I do this to myself?". And then you rise past that and it becomes "why did I not do this before, this is amazing.". It really is one of the most painful yet rewarding learning curves I have experienced. I was close to giving up like most people, but it gets a lot easier, especially if you track down an easier to use machine that pulls the tension for you. Auto drop weights can be had for a good price. If you learn on a crappy floating clamp drop weight, you will go through some pain but be a complete beast once you get fixed clamps and some form of constant pull.
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ryushen21
Legend
That sounds a lot like the old 6.1 I still adore.
ryushen21
Legend
It's interesting that you mention this because I think this will be my route moving forward as well. Playing this last non-USTA league with more evenly matched players made me think that UTR is probably the better way to go. But with the way that Spring looks, I won't be able to compete in anything until April or May.
JGads
G.O.A.T.
Very much so. But here there is more butter.
And just like with the 6.1, one of these days I'm going to find nothing but the back fence with this thing and it will be glorious.
