Tw Leather Grip!!!!!

P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
i just got mine in the mail today. havnt wrapped it yet but so far it looks awesome. i used to use gamma leather.

i;ll apply it to my racquet and give a small comparison to gamma.


stay tuned!

btw, its 22mm (width) x 1300mm (length) x 1.3mm (thickness)
 
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
if u've got any questions, i;ll be happy to answer them if i can
 
M

MaximRecoil

Rookie
Interesting. I didn't know TW had their own brand of leather grip. Who is making it for them? I really like the idea of two different thicknesses and two different widths, as well as the lack of branding.

I suggest they add some more colors, such as black and white. I'd like to be able to buy some new white leather grips for my Puma Becker rackets which came with white leather grips originally -- plus white overgrips seem to be pretty popular these days, so maybe white leather grips would sell too.
 
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
okay, i;ve put it the leather on my racquet. i hav 2 racquets, one with TW leather and one with Gamma leather, both are 4 and 1/2. here are the comparisons:

  • even thought TW lists their leather as tan, its actually more of a brown while gamma leather is a golden yellow
  • gamma leather is tackier
  • the TW leather is definitely thinner. at least 1/8 grips thinner than Gamma
  • gamma is a touch bit rougher in texture while the TW is a bit smoother
  • the gamma is also wider. when wrapped on the handle, gamma measures @ 21-22mm while TW measures @ 19-20mm
  • perhaps its because i chose the thinner version and the Gamma being stretched, they seem to be the same in terms of firmness

these are all the comparisons i can think of right now. i;ll answer any question i can. if anyone else has TW leather, all your comments and comparisons are welcome.

IMPORTANT: THE GAMMA LEATHER HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY STRETCHED WHILE THE TW LEATHER HAS ONLY BEEN VERY SLIGHTLY STRETCHED. I'M GONNA WAIT A FEW WEEKS BEFORE FULLY STRECTCHING THE TW LEATHER.

MaximRecoil said:
Interesting. I didn't know TW had their own brand of leather grip. Who is making it for them? I really like the idea of two different thicknesses and two different widths, as well as the lack of branding.

I suggest they add some more colors, such as black and white. I'd like to be able to buy some new white leather grips for my Puma Becker rackets which came with white leather grips originally -- plus white overgrips seem to be pretty popular these days, so maybe white leather grips would sell too.
Click to expand...

yea, the plain leather with no branding looks awesome. a black leather would also be good

keithchircop said:
Which thickness did you choose?
Please compare that thickness to the Gamma you're used to using.
Click to expand...

i chose the 1.3mm thickness and 22mm width. it is definitely thinner, even though the Gamma has been well stretched

bagung said:
is it thinner than babolat leather...?
Click to expand...

sry, i havnt tried babolat leather, i might get it in the future for a comparison but im not sure yet
 
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
diredesire said:
My major question: does the color bleed onto over grips? I like flipping mine.
Click to expand...

from my experience with leather (gamma, and shortly wilson), i believe all leathers bleed slightly when u first get them. after awhile tho, they stop (atleast the Gamma leather did, didnt hav Wilson too long). i;ll wrap an overgrip on and see if it bleeds
 
diredesire

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
ProStaff Legend said:
from my experience with leather (gamma, and shortly wilson), i believe all leathers bleed slightly when u first get them. after awhile tho, they stop (atleast the Gamma leather did, didnt hav Wilson too long). i;ll wrap an overgrip on and see if it bleeds
Click to expand...

Excellent, thanks.

I've had the same experience, except any tan grips besides fairways & head calfskins bleed pretty bad.
 
M

MaximRecoil

Rookie
vinnier6 said:
a black leather grip would do nothing but turn your hand black...thats why leather grips are natural....
Click to expand...
There have been plenty of rackets that came stock with a black leather grip. The early Dunlop Max 200G's come to mind. My neighbor had an old Head aluminum racket that came with a black leather grip. You can also buy a black leather grip from Klipper USA (link). I've never seen a black leather grip turn anyone's hand black. I've never used a black leather grip extensively (I've tried out rackets with black leather grips), but I've owned black leather gloves and they never turned my hands black.

I doubt that most tan-colored grips are natural anyway. Natural is usually lighter, and there would be a good deal of variance in color from hide to hide. And brown grips are definitely not natural color, and those don't turn people's hands brown (they never did with me anyway).
 
diredesire

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
MaximRecoil said:
There have been plenty of rackets that came stock with a black leather grip. The early Dunlop Max 200G's come to mind. My neighbor had an old Head aluminum racket that came with a black leather grip. You can also buy a black leather grip from Klipper USA (link). I've never seen a black leather grip turn anyone's hand black. I've never used a black leather grip extensively (I've tried out rackets with black leather grips), but I've owned black leather gloves and they never turned my hands black.

I doubt that most tan-colored grips are natural anyway. Natural is usually lighter, and there would be a good deal of variance in color from hide to hide. And brown grips are definitely not natural color, and those don't turn people's hands brown (they never did with me anyway).
Click to expand...

Yep, natural does not mean that it hasn't been finished or processed.
 
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
bagung said:
pacific pro grip came in black
Click to expand...

yea i know. it was on TW for awhile but i wasnt sure if i was gonna get it. but im happy with this one, i dont think i'll need to switch. i might get babolat leather for comparison anyways

User Name said:
awsome, lets get a review up when youve tried it on the court
Click to expand...

i would love to take this out for a spin. but i hav to go visit some relatives tomoro and then school starts after i come back. might be some time before i get a chance. srry guys =/
 
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
ProStaff Legend said:
from my experience with leather (gamma, and shortly wilson), i believe all leathers bleed slightly when u first get them. after awhile tho, they stop (atleast the Gamma leather did, didnt hav Wilson too long). i;ll wrap an overgrip on and see if it bleeds
Click to expand...

ok diredesire, i put on a white wilson pro overgrip. i havnt been able to actually hit with it yet but i;ve taken quite a few swings and serves @ home. i;ve also twirled the racquet handle in my hand and tried rubbing the grip against the leather. so far, i dont see any signs of bleeding @all. but i wont know for sure until i get to hit with it on an actual court which wont be for some time.
 
diredesire

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
ProStaff Legend said:
ok diredesire, i put on a white wilson pro overgrip. i havnt been able to actually hit with it yet but i;ve taken quite a few swings and serves @ home. i;ve also twirled the racquet handle in my hand and tried rubbing the grip against the leather. so far, i dont see any signs of bleeding @all. but i wont know for sure until i get to hit with it on an actual court which wont be for some time.
Click to expand...

That's fine, I know how things get busy. I've been dying to get my stringing videos out the door, but i've been swamped. The real test comes with the sweat and rubbing from hitting.
 
K

Keifers

Legend
I have a couple of black Fairway grips from about 10 years ago -- no probs at all with color bleeding, hands turning black, etc.
 
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
ok diredesire, i finally had a chance to hit with the new leather grip. i hit for a good 1 and 1/2 hours with a white wilson pro overgrip and i must say that it doesnt rub off color onto overgrips. definitely a very good leather grip
 
Last edited by a moderator:
____

____

Rookie
ProStaff Legend ,Do you "too much" bewels for a thin version?
I want to order a thin version but still worry it's gonna be way too thin.

Sometimes when the replacement grip is too thin,the bewels are also too "sharp" and might hurt your hand.

Do you have that kinda problem?
 
Last edited:
P

ProStaff Legend

Guest
dirkgnuf said:
how heavy is the TW leather grip?
Click to expand...

i dont know. i cant find out because i dont hav a scale

____ said:
ProStaff Legend ,Do you "too much" bewels for a thin version?
I want to order a thin version but still worry it's gonna be way too thin.

Sometimes when the replacement grip is too thin,the bewels are also too "sharp" and might hurt your hand.

Do you have that kinda problem?
Click to expand...

i havnt had any problems with the belevels being too sharp. it could depend on player preference tho

btw diredesire, i went for a 3 hour hitting session. the leather has yet to leave any color on the overgrip. just an update
 
bagung

bagung

Hall of Fame
dirkgnuf said:
how heavy is the TW leather grip?
Click to expand...

i have ordered the thinnest and wider model, full length came to 26,8g...
after cut and trim to m-fil 300 handle is 24.3g.
babolat leather cut and trim on dnx-10 mid handle is 23.07g, while wilson is 22.6g
 
R

RLFore

Rookie
Would the thicker TW leather still have more of a bevel feel versus synthetics. I want more bevel feel versus synthetics but don't want to decrease the grip size by getting the thinner TW leather grip. And wouldn't the thicker TW leather provide a little more shock absorption that leather normally takes away
 
bagung

bagung

Hall of Fame
TW leather is just as good as babolat and wilson...i bought the thinnest version, and love it...it does not increase the size of my grips... nothing beats the leather, as i can feel the bevel more than any synthetics....
the only downside is , it is about 10-12d heavier than synthetics....
thicker leather will not only increase the weight, and it will make the grip size bigger
 
Klatu Verata Necktie

Klatu Verata Necktie

Hall of Fame
bagung said:
TW leather is just as good as babolat and wilson...i bought the thinnest version, and love it...it does not increase the size of my grips... nothing beats the leather, as i can feel the bevel more than any synthetics....
the only downside is , it is about 10-12d heavier than synthetics....
thicker leather will not only increase the weight, and it will make the grip size bigger
Click to expand...

Is the thinner version thinner than the Babolat and Wilson in your experience? I would like to reduce the size of my grip a bit if possible.
 
bagung

bagung

Hall of Fame
it is difficult to said which is thinner... because it depends on how much you stretched it when you installed the leather..... i have "thickness guage equipment, i will test it on the weekend, and inform you......
 
R

RLFore

Rookie
Does the TW grips have beveled or tapered edges to overlap the grip when installing or is it best to install with no overlap so it lays flat on the pallet
 
bagung

bagung

Hall of Fame
Klatu Verata Necktie said:
Is the thinner version thinner than the Babolat and Wilson in your experience? I would like to reduce the size of my grip a bit if possible.
Click to expand...

i have checked with thickness guage , tw(thinner versions) its the thinnest, than wilson, and the thickest among 3 is babolat.....
 
diredesire

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
ProStaff Legend said:
ok diredesire, i finally had a chance to hit with the new leather grip. i hit for a good 1 and 1/2 hours with a white wilson pro overgrip and i must say that it doesnt rub off color onto overgrips. definitely a very good leather grip
Click to expand...

ProStaff Legend said:
btw dire, sorry for the wait
Click to expand...

ProStaff Legend said:
i dont know. i cant find out because i dont hav a scale



i havnt had any problems with the belevels being too sharp. it could depend on player preference tho

btw diredesire, i went for a 3 hour hitting session. the leather has yet to leave any color on the overgrip. just an update
Click to expand...


Thanks for the update. Sounds like a grip I should look into. My leathers hold up OK, except for around the buttcap area. I'm not exactly the most careful with my gear on the court. (I'll toss a racquet onto my bag when switching frames, etc). I need some new leather ;)
 
R

RLFore

Rookie
Just put them on my racquets, I should have taken pics but I put overgrips on them already. They are a little darker than the pic on TW if thats important to you, they do have the sticky surface to adhere to the pallet. I bought the 1.3mm thin ones and once on, my grip feels thinner versus having the Gamma Hi-tech. Haven't played with them yet. They feel great so far and really brings out the bevels
 
armand

armand

Banned
~Bump~

Can anyone comment on the durability of the grip?

I love leather because they last forever.

____________

BTW, I think if you get the thicker 25mm version, it will be lighter because you'll end up wrapping less grip around your handle overall. Or am I talking from my butt?
 
S

sw00sh

Rookie
I think Gamma increased the gripsize to 1/8 larger. I have reverted to synthetic leather from Gamma Leather, now my handle reflects the actual size of 4 3/8 rather than the 4 1/2 that it was with Gamma Leather.

There was a 10gm differences in weight too after I changed to the synthetic leather.

I am wondering why TW leather is heavier than the Wilson or Babolat since TW leather is thinner and broader?

Anyone?
 
K

Keifers

Legend
Thought I'd post a couple of pics. The TW grip is 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm.

First pic - the actual color is not as orange-y as it looks here. (Dunlop tennis ball can there for color comparison.)
1zn7h9e.jpg


Second pic - Wilson SV Fairway grip for comparison. Color of TW grip is more true to life here.
v5d5vn.jpg



(P.S. I notice LafayetteHitter has posted some nice pics in a separate thread.)
 
K

Keifers

Legend
LH, it's a Graphite Pro Series 110 from the '80s. The text on the frame says:

(C) 1986 Prince Mfg., Inc.
Constructed of a combination of Graphite and Fiberglass
String Pattern: 16 Mains/19 Crosses. String Tension: 65-80 lbs. [Yikes!]

18mm beam width (yummy!) -- nice hitting stick.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

D
Leather Grips Comparison
Replies
4
Views
1K
hoodjem
hoodjem
lgbalfa
TW leather grips (22mm vs. 25mm - 1.3mm)
Replies
3
Views
3K
lgbalfa
lgbalfa
X
No more skinny and thin TW leather grip??
Replies
0
Views
672
ximian
X
tennisfa
how much does leather grip weight again?
Replies
7
Views
1K
bagung
bagung
T
Benefits of Leather Grip Width 22mm vs 25mm
Replies
1
Views
1K
Arthuro
Arthuro
Top