Rate this guy
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flemby2112
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5.5 or better. Let's see the answer.
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
The player .. which I wont name.. has a USTA rating of 5.5 . He has won national tournaments at the 30 and 35 age group, played pro for a little bit and was on the cover of Tennis Magazine.
And most importantly, beaten Sup once. That surely counts for something. *crickets chirp*
Nice guy.. huge.. hands like a banana bunch and forearms bigger than my legs.
And most importantly, beaten Sup once. That surely counts for something. *crickets chirp*
Nice guy.. huge.. hands like a banana bunch and forearms bigger than my legs.
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Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
I reposted
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, he may be a computer rated 5.5, but by definition he is really just below a 7.0. Truth is, I don't think the USTA gives ratings above 5.5, because guys that would be above 5.5 are playing futures/challengers.
By the way, Sup, he never aced you!!
I should post the phot of all of us standing next to him, to show how big he is. LOL
By the way, forgot to mention to you. I may be hitting with him later this week, along with another guy that lives in the club who is a teaching pro. They are good buddies, and he has invitied to me to join them for a "work out". LOL
6.0 to 7.0
These players will generally not need NTRP ratings. Rankings or past rankings will speak for themselves. The 6.0 player typically has had intensive training for national tournament competition at the junior level and collegiate levels and has obtained a sectional and/or national ranking. The 6.5 player has a reasonable chance of succeeding at the 7.0 level and has extensive satellite tournament experience. The 7.0 is a world class player who is committed to tournament competition on the international level and whose major source of income is tournament prize winnings.
By the way, Sup, he never aced you!!
I should post the phot of all of us standing next to him, to show how big he is. LOL
By the way, forgot to mention to you. I may be hitting with him later this week, along with another guy that lives in the club who is a teaching pro. They are good buddies, and he has invitied to me to join them for a "work out". LOL
6.0 to 7.0
These players will generally not need NTRP ratings. Rankings or past rankings will speak for themselves. The 6.0 player typically has had intensive training for national tournament competition at the junior level and collegiate levels and has obtained a sectional and/or national ranking. The 6.5 player has a reasonable chance of succeeding at the 7.0 level and has extensive satellite tournament experience. The 7.0 is a world class player who is committed to tournament competition on the international level and whose major source of income is tournament prize winnings.
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
You got that right! I don't think he was too pleased with that.
Nick B taught me well...
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
I'll buy you a coke at the Sony Erisson in March. Captain Jack is optional.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Here is another video from the same match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q7rTBDEuJ4
By the way, I believe Lake won this match 6-1, 6-0, and he was "being nice". The guy he played against is a 5.0??? Sup, could you confirm that???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q7rTBDEuJ4
By the way, I believe Lake won this match 6-1, 6-0, and he was "being nice". The guy he played against is a 5.0??? Sup, could you confirm that???
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Speaking of which, is it time to get tickets yet?
Have we confirmed dates?
I haven't seen any activity in the thread.
J
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
actually it was 6-0, 6-2 I think. Unless we are talking about another match.
The player he played is a 4.5 -5.0. But since he won 2 national tournament matches.. i say 5.0 for sure.
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
yeah, same guy.
Topaz
Legend
I'm ready to book anytime. In fact, I'm resisting the urge to do it right now after the night I just had. Instead, I will take up all the slack from Jolly and Moz, and drink lots of wine.
I am reachable through the email link in my profile. We are still looking at first weekend, right? I already asked for the days off from work.
johnny ballgame
Professional
He is definitely not a 6.5 by this definition. At present, this guy has absolutely zero chance of success at the 7.0 level.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Here you go:
6.0 This player will generally not need NTRP ratings. Rankings or past
rankings will speak for themselves. The 6.0 player typically has had
intensive training for national tournament competition at the junior
level and collegiate levels and has obtained a sectional and or
national ranking
This player:
can and has played some satellite events
can be a good competing teaching head pro
prepares right on time
6.5 This player has a reasonable chance of succeeding at the professional
7.0 level and has a reasonable satellite tournament experience.
This player:
has won on the satellite tour
can compete with world class players
prepares and sets up a minute early
Top of page
7.0 This player is a world class player who is committed to tournament
competition on the international level and whose major source of
income is tournament prize winnings
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
Look at his movement and footwork. He moves pretty
efficiently and quickly. He runs after a wide forehand and
then gets back to the court really quickly and is in perfect
position to hit an approach shot.
he looks athletic, but anyone rating him higher than 5.5 doesn't know advanced technique. he gets minimal extension and wrist snap on his serve. his swing-speed is relatively low and he is playing a guy who looks like a 4.0-4.5 pusher. he would need a great draw to win a round in an open tourney in socal.
Moz
Hall of Fame
Being wise after the event is one thing but your effort is particularly awe-inspiring.
Blade0324
Hall of Fame
I would have rated him a 4.5 based on the video provided. Perhaps it is not a fair representation of his abilities but it does look very comparable to 4.5 players in my area. I was extremely surprised to learn the real rating etc. I hit with a kid that finished 3rd at our states HS tournament last year and went to a small school on a tennis scholarship that hits much better and with considerable more pace than these videos show.
johnny ballgame
Professional
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
When did I ever rate a 4.5 below Federer? In fact, I state the opposite time after time on this forum. Judging from this post, and the one below>>> it is obvious you don't know squat. "Minimal Extension"?? "Wrist snap"?? "open tourney in socal??" LOL
he looks athletic, but anyone rating him higher than 5.5 doesn't know advanced technique. he gets minimal extension and wrist snap on his serve. his swing-speed is relatively low and he is playing a guy who looks like a 4.0-4.5 pusher. he would need a great draw to win a round in an open tourney in socal.
I remember that article. Didn't the article say that the player had not started playing tennis until after college, but was a really, really good athlete (semi-pro soccer/ scholarship player)?
By the way, he is currently the 2nd ranked american in the ITF over 35's.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
To Hooooon and the rest of y'all. How would you compare the
level of the better guy in the video posted by Sup2Dresq
versus the guys in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EAHtVy4kAk
montx
Professional
His modelling skills from the magazine and video look more impressive than his tennis but it could be because the video really didn't show him playing that great, so to speak, it might have not done him justice.
He might be both a good model and tennis player but the video doesn't do him enough justice for the tennis playing.
If you go to you tube you can find a lot of players playing a lot faster and precise shots without some of the vanity from those videos.
But with no disrespect to the guy, he wasn't bad at all as a tennis player either.
He might be both a good model and tennis player but the video doesn't do him enough justice for the tennis playing.
If you go to you tube you can find a lot of players playing a lot faster and precise shots without some of the vanity from those videos.
But with no disrespect to the guy, he wasn't bad at all as a tennis player either.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Hey am I allowed to give out any hints to our esteemed posters who are thinking about saying 4.5? Or should I just keep my trap shut?
J
:lol: As a legit 4.5 I wonder what ranking I would get on there. Those guys are quite impressive.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
I was thrilled to be rated 3.5 given that Pistol Pete was rated 4.0.
And figure Tony Larson first posted his creds showing that he was a legit 6.0 before posting a video, and was still rated anywhere from 3.5-5.0
J
the better guy in the new video looks better, the weaker player about the same. it's tough to see how big all these guys hit (serves look 5.0, groundies 5.5).... the better player in the new video seems to wear down as the match goes on, so maybe the OP's guy would outlast him. any other mythical beasts to compare?
johnny ballgame
Professional
When I saw that serve motion and cap I thought it might be Vince Spadea? He ain't afraid-a-ya.
But then I saw the 1HBH so it can't be him...
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Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
Hint away. Please.
The_Spartan
New User
I siad 4.5 based on the minimal footy available.
He seems comfortable and has some nice form. Seems make contact a bit eralier than he should looking at his arm extension on one particular forehand.
The ball on the serve seems to go a little too far into the court; not much.
His grounstrokes have a nice pace, but they don't seem to carry much weight.
I'd say a low 4.5 at that ?
He seems comfortable and has some nice form. Seems make contact a bit eralier than he should looking at his arm extension on one particular forehand.
The ball on the serve seems to go a little too far into the court; not much.
His grounstrokes have a nice pace, but they don't seem to carry much weight.
I'd say a low 4.5 at that ?
MY simple comment is that the guy has no bad looking shots and did not miss any shots during the entire video. Any mistake was punished by an instant winner.
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
How about this to help with any comparison..
Tennis Orange Bowl Thomas Johansson vs. Talito Corrales 16's Final
Check out the ground stroke exchanges viewed at court level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR2qcLPWYyU&NR=1
Tennis Orange Bowl Thomas Johansson vs. Talito Corrales 16's Final
Check out the ground stroke exchanges viewed at court level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR2qcLPWYyU&NR=1
Mike Cottrill
Hall of Fame
5.0 serves? Did you see the serve at 2:45? I think you will find many of those you see from the side are seconds.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
The one at 2:45 was definitely a 1st serve. Ha ha ha.
Yes, there were a bunch of 2nd serves as well in the mix.
Don't remember which ones were 2nd's.
After some more guesses I'll reveal their level.
Bungalo Bill
G.O.A.T.
Here is a video of a guy who was warming up his serve for a match. I caught him a USTA tournament. Can you guys rate him? I'm curious.
Thanks in advance
Warming up serve:
http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/Sup2Dresq/Misc/?action=view¤t=100_7679.flv
Warming up groundstrokes:
http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/Sup2Dresq/Misc/?action=view¤t=100_8033.flv
Actual Point in Match:
http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/Sup2Dresq/Misc/?action=view¤t=100_7676.flv
It is really hard to tell with these clips. I would rate the person around a 4.0 maybe a little higher.
What I didnt like was:
1. His serve was a bit casual for me, especially in the setup
2. His footwork on the forehand warmup was horrible. At the 5.0 level split-steps, step-outs, shuffles, gravity steps should be noticable, even when you are warming up.
3. Couldnt really see his volleys.
4. His backhand in warmup did not have good form and was a bit cramped by his lack of footwork.
He is athletic and coordinated so I am sure a lot of this stuff can be improved upon quickly.
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
Bungalo Bill
G.O.A.T.
Interesting observations.. :shock:
Was this you?
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
No, Unless someone got me on the cover of Tennis Magazine and didn't get my permission!
