Eagnas?!!!!

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 12, 2008

anyone know anything about this?
Eagnas Professional Racket Stringing Machine Combo3800

or this

EAGNAS RACKET STRINGING MACHINE 722E

these are both cheap and electric!

superstition · Sep 12, 2008

Please do a forum search.

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 12, 2008

superstition said:
Please do a forum search.

this was no help

Il Mostro · Sep 12, 2008

lawlitssoo1n said:
this was no help

You must be a loon. There is a ****load of Eagnas discussion here.

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 12, 2008

ok, anyone have experience with the machines?

superstition · Sep 13, 2008

Searching "Eagnas" for topic name only resulted in 250 results.

Searching for those two models (topic name only) resulted in these:

eagnas combo 3800 machine feedback?
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=219311&highlight=eagnas+3800

Clamp Bases Slipping (Eagnas Combo 3800)!
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=183126&highlight=eagnas+3800

Review of Eagnas 722e: From purchase to 1st racquet
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=105253&highlight=eagnas+722e

Eagnas 722e
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=158227&highlight=eagnas+722e

Eagnas 722e/865
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=156595&highlight=eagnas+722e

Review on Eagnas Flex 722e
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=144058&highlight=eagnas+722e

If you want to know more, use the search.

WBF · Sep 13, 2008

Don't buy any Eagnas electronic machines. There are several models of Eagnas that are good; none are electronic (AFAIK).

william7gr · Sep 13, 2008

Some people here have Eagnas machines and like them but no happy costumers have an electric. Don't get an eagnas electric.

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 13, 2008

thank you guys, i guess imma just buy a revo 4000

barry · Sep 13, 2008

lawlitssoo1n said:
thank you guys, i guess imma just buy a revo 4000

For the same money you can get a lot more machine with better mounting, a stand, and clamps. Revo is over hyped on this board, mainly by 1st time machine owners. Try a few machines it will become obvious the Revo is an entry level over priced crank machine.

http://www.eagnas.com/plus6500.html or http://www.eagnas.com/comet11.html

The revo has the older style mounting system (6 knobs), and older style 5 point clamps. If you are want a Alpha, look at the Apex!

b0oMeR · Sep 13, 2008

barry said:
For the same money you can get a lot more machine with better mounting, a stand, and clamps. Revo is over hyped on this board, mainly by 1st time machine owners. Try a few machines it will become obvious the Revo is an entry level over priced crank machine.

http://www.eagnas.com/plus6500.html or http://www.eagnas.com/comet11.html

The revo has the older style mounting system (6 knobs), and older style 5 point clamps. If you are want a Alpha, look at the Apex!

The revo is a great machine, worthy of its name and i say it's price. I have very few experience from Eagnas but I know I shouldn't trust them with my money.

barry · Sep 13, 2008

b0oMeR said:
The revo is a great machine, worthy of its name and i say it's price. I have very few experience from Eagnas but I know I shouldn't trust them with my money.

No offense, but how many machines did you try before purchasing the Revo 4000? I have a lot of experience with Eagnas own 2, and many other manufactures, and have to say I would rate the Revo as average at best. It is an old design, and offers nothing new or special. If you have an opportunity, try the Alpha Apex, it has the newer mounting system and 3 tooth clamps, plus comes with a stand for around $995 or so. The Eagnas 6500 is pretty much the same machine for $595. If you tried the Eagnas, Alpha Apex, and the Revo 4000, you will understand what I am saying. I do a lot of rackets, and absolutely hate the 6 knob mounting system (which I currently have). Like my machine, the revo 4000 is an old obsolete design.

nadalfan! · Sep 13, 2008

barry said:
No offense, but how many machines did you try before purchasing the Revo 4000? I have a lot of experience with Eagnas own 2, and many other manufactures, and have to say I would rate the Revo as average at best. It is an old design, and offers nothing new or special. If you have an opportunity, try the Alpha Apex, it has the newer mounting system and 3 tooth clamps, plus comes with a stand for around $995 or so. The Eagnas 6500 is pretty much the same machine for $595. If you tried the Eagnas, Alpha Apex, and the Revo 4000, you will understand what I am saying. I do a lot of rackets, and absolutely hate the 6 knob mounting system (which I currently have). Like my machine, the revo 4000 is an old obsolete design.

I totally agree. If you think about getting the revo, just look into some eagnas models in that price range too. For me, the Comet 11 is everything I like to see in a crank. Plus with a wise tension head you get everything for just a little bit over 1k. Just as good as an electronic machine but a much better price. I would suggest the comet 11 as your best option right now because of all it has to offer. It is way much better than the revo for only 50 dollars more. I have had experience with eagnas too!

Deleted member 25923 · Sep 13, 2008

but, it's a new machine and very few people have experience with the comet 11, so you don't know how reliable it is.

Deleted member 25923 · Sep 13, 2008

where's the comet 11 page?

superstition · Sep 13, 2008

http://www.eagnas.com/comet11.html

Deleted member 25923 · Sep 13, 2008

Hmm, how come I couldn't find that lol.

No offense to comet 11 owners, but the paint scheme on that machine makes it look like a toy (or maybe it's just the lighting)

Also, you get what you pay for. The apex II has a better brake system. Is it worth 400 dollars no, but the comet 11 doesn't seem like a machine I would buy.

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 13, 2008

hm.... the 6500 looks like a pretty good model!

william7gr · Sep 13, 2008

the comet 11 seems like a update to the 6500 to make it look more like a apex ll because of the feet.

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 13, 2008

they both have the same stuff, but the only thing different is the feet
but the comet looks like a toy

nadalfan! · Sep 14, 2008

lawlitssoo1n said:
they both have the same stuff, but the only thing different is the feet
but the comet looks like a toy

I think it looks pretty sweet and so what isn't a string machine a toy?

JK Well, to me, in that price range, this is the best option. So what if no one has bought it yet. People don't buy new machines in the 600 dollar range everyday. And if they did they probably arean't on TT. But this is just my opinion.:neutral:

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 14, 2008

WOW, i just looked at flex 940!
its looks like a REAL machine compared to the 6500 and comet
and its a lot cheaper, but whats the difference btwn the 940 and the 6500?
i read over and over, but it seems like they have the same specs

mellofelow · Sep 14, 2008

My experience with the 940 is that the base plate is not rigid enough and it does flex under tension. And I have test and proved it using digital scale. I promptly exchanged it for the 910.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=51706

I can't believe it's been almost 3 years. Although the 910 has served me well, the maintenance aspect of ownership leaves much to be desired.

Come this Wednesday a new GAMMA will be in the house. Between the 3 machines I own, I can't wait to sell Eagnas fast enough. And yes, the Ektelon will remain the backup. Here's the history of my machine ownership.

Tremont - 2 yrs
Ektelon - 20+ and counting
Eagnas Combo 910 - 3 yrs
Gamma ST-II - new beginning...

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 14, 2008

mellofelow said:
My experience with the 940 is that the base plate is not rigid enough and it does flex under tension. And I have test and proved it using digital scale. I promptly exchanged it for the 910.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=51706

I can't believe it's been almost 3 years. Although the 910 has served me well, the maintenance aspect of ownership leaves much to be desired.

Come this Wednesday a new GAMMA will be in the house. Between the 3 machines I own, I can't wait to sell Eagnas fast enough. And yes, the Ektelon will remain the backup. Here's the history of my machine ownership.

Tremont - 2 yrs
Ektelon - 20+ and counting
Eagnas Combo 910 - 3 yrs
Gamma ST-II - new beginning...

hm.. i see
but the 910 base is plastic, should't it flex more? cuz i string my racket at 65-70lbs. well maybe the 940 metal base is very thin? I'm guessing

Deleted member 25923 · Sep 14, 2008

Mello, you have the combo 910? How good is it? Also, isn't the gamma st II a little more basic?

mellofelow · Sep 14, 2008

lawlitssoo1n said:
hm.. i see
but the 910 base is plastic, should't it flex more? cuz i string my racket at 65-70lbs. well maybe the 940 metal base is very thin? I'm guessing

No... 910 base is steel. Not solid but with support ridges therefore very sturdy.

Mansewerz said:
Mello, you have the combo 910? How good is it? Also, isn't the gamma st II a little more basic?

The 910 is a very capable home stringer. Frequent tune ups are required. If you're handy, I'd recommend a couple of Home Depot hardware upgrades and fixes.

I have used older generation Gamma machines before and I expect the ST II to be exceptional. The only down grade between them is lack of stand, which is fine because I intend to use it on my B&D WorkMate.

Deleted member 25923 · Sep 14, 2008

mellofelow said:
No... 910 base is steel. Not solid but with support ridges therefore very sturdy.

The 910 is a very capable home stringer. Frequent tune ups are required. If you're handy, I'd recommend a couple of Home Depot hardware upgrades and fixes.

I have used older generation Gamma machines before and I expect the ST II to be exceptional. The only down grade between them is lack of stand, which is fine because I intend to use it on my B&D WorkMate.

Oh, so the combo 910 also has a screw brake?

The stand is nice, but I don't need it that much.

Also, when people say calibrate the stringer everytime you move it, do they mean like moving it up and down the stairs or even a couple of feet?

mellofelow · Sep 14, 2008

Mansewerz said:
Oh, so the combo 910 also has a screw brake?

Also, when people say calibrate the stringer everytime you move it, do they mean like moving it up and down the stairs or even a couple of feet?

OIC, the brake. Correct, that's definitely a downgrade feature however it's something I can do without. I use the brake only for calibration and storage.

No, there's no need to calibrate for moving it here and there. In fact, it's a real pain in the arse to fine tune and calibrate true to tension dial. For home use, do it once year. But for every 5 to 10 string jobs, use the digital scale and set the dial to your normal tension (60lb for example). Test the tension and write down the reading. Whatever plus or minus adjust the dial accordingly. For example, if the reading is 58, I'll write it down and dial it up to 62 and test once more. The scale then should read 60. I'll just keep string the machine at 62 until the next calibration.

Zhou · Sep 14, 2008

mellofelow said:
OIC, the brake. Correct, that's definitely a downgrade feature however it's something I can do without. I use the brake only for calibration and storage.

No, there's no need to calibrate for moving it here and there. In fact, it's a real pain in the arse to fine tune and calibrate true to tension dial. For home use, do it once year. But for every 5 to 10 string jobs, use the digital scale and set the dial to your normal tension (60lb for example). Test the tension and write down the reading. Whatever plus or minus adjust the dial accordingly. For example, if the reading is 58, I'll write it down and dial it up to 62 and test once more. The scale then should read 60. I'll just keep string the machine at 62 until the next calibration.

There should be a calibration screw so that you can make 60 lbs = 60 lbs by turning the screw left or right.

Deleted member 25923 · Sep 14, 2008

mellofelow said:
OIC, the brake. Correct, that's definitely a downgrade feature however it's something I can do without. I use the brake only for calibration and storage.

No, there's no need to calibrate for moving it here and there. In fact, it's a real pain in the arse to fine tune and calibrate true to tension dial. For home use, do it once year. But for every 5 to 10 string jobs, use the digital scale and set the dial to your normal tension (60lb for example). Test the tension and write down the reading. Whatever plus or minus adjust the dial accordingly. For example, if the reading is 58, I'll write it down and dial it up to 62 and test once more. The scale then should read 60. I'll just keep string the machine at 62 until the next calibration.

Ok, so moving it a few feet in the garage each time I need it (obviously once per set of racquets to string), I shouldn't need to recalibrate?

Also, shouldn't there be a screw to just get it to the right tension?

nadalfan! · Sep 14, 2008

lawlitssoo1n said:
WOW, i just looked at flex 940!
its looks like a REAL machine compared to the 6500 and comet
and its a lot cheaper, but whats the difference btwn the 940 and the 6500?
i read over and over, but it seems like they have the same specs

Read my thread:http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=202901

My full review is in the last couple pages somewhere in there. I have no problems with it but as a eagnas customer, I got treated very nicely and no rudeness whatsoever. The table doesn't not flex or warp in any way believe me I have done tons of racquets so far. I don't notice anything. The table is not that thin either way. Like I said in my review. The worst thing about this machine is no spring assisted clamps. Believe me and trust me when I say the comet 11 is your best option. The machine shouldn't really be based on looks anyway more of performance. If your not willing to get the comet 11, then get the combo 910 both are great machines and much better than the revo. And they're cheaper than the revo and what you get for the revo is uncomparable.

nadalfan! · Sep 14, 2008

Mansewerz said:
Ok, so moving it a few feet in the garage each time I need it (obviously once per set of racquets to string), I shouldn't need to recalibrate?

Also, shouldn't there be a screw to just get it to the right tension?

I just check the tension every couple of racquets because I want my customers to make sure they are getting what they asked for. But that's just what I do..

mellofelow · Sep 14, 2008

Zhou said:
There should be a calibration screw so that you can make 60 lbs = 60 lbs by turning the screw left or right.

2 screws to be exact. One set screw and one adjustment screw. In practice, it's not that easy... at least not the Eagnas because the set screw loosening and tightening will change the setting a few lbs.

I believe there's a third adjustment... I can't remember but since the spring tension is exponential, the spring rate needs to be adjusted too. If incorrect, the dial could be 60 on the mark, however it's off incrementally at 50 & 70 for example.

mellofelow · Sep 14, 2008

nadalfan! said:
Read my thread:http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=202901

My full review is in the last couple pages somewhere in there. I have no problems with it but as a eagnas customer, I got treated very nicely and no rudeness whatsoever. The table doesn't not flex or warp in any way believe me I have done tons of racquets so far. I don't notice anything. The table is not that thin either way. Like I said in my review. The worst thing about this machine is no spring assisted clamps. Believe me and trust me when I say the comet 11 is your best option. The machine shouldn't really be based on looks anyway more of performance. If your not willing to get the comet 11, then get the combo 910 both are great machines and much better than the revo. And they're cheaper than the revo and what you get for the revo is uncomparable.

That's your opinion against mine.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=51964

Please post your scientific procedure to prove the table does not flex. Have you done measurements against another industrial machine side by side? I've documented mine. The fact is that they all flex, simple law of physics. It's just that the amount of flex from 940 was not acceptable to me. Simply put, it relies on the mounted racquet to absorb that slack.

AT92292 · Sep 14, 2008

Most people like their Smart 6000 and thats electric

nadalfan! · Sep 14, 2008

mellofelow said:
That's your opinion against mine.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=51964

Please post your scientific procedure to prove the table does not flex. Have you done measurements against another industrial machine side by side? I've documented mine. The fact is that they all flex, simple law of physics. It's just that the amount of flex from 940 was not acceptable to me. Simply put, it relies on the mounted racquet to absorb that slack.

You don't need to put science to work in this. It's like you said every machine table warps. It this warps so much then the gamma x-2 should break racquets but it doesn't. There is no problem whatsoever. And this isn't an opinion. Maybe you got a bad part I don't know but there is no warping or bending of any sort.

mellofelow · Sep 14, 2008

Ahhh.... Haaa!! You totally missed the scientific engineering marvel of the X-2. Keep in mind that it's a floating clamp system. Therefore it does not require the same amount of space beneath the racquet to accommodate base clamps and rails. So the X-2 reduced the flex from a vertical steel bar by minimize spacing from the center by orienting posts away from center.

The 940 on the other hand needs all the space on the turntable for clamps and rails. So posts are farther away. Plus the metal sheet base is horizontal with only rolled edges for rigidity. Try this out, remove the posts on your machine and put your palms on each end give it a weight test. Report back your findings.

lawlitssoo1n · Sep 14, 2008

hm...i think ill get the 910

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