Aussie Open betting odds.

edmondsm

Legend
I was surprised to see that Murray is ahead of Djokovic. Considering that Djokovic is the defending champ, is ranked higher, and just won the MC I thought that he would be a lock to be ahead of Murray. Hell I think you could make the argument that he should be ahead of Nadal.

Roger Federer 2/1
Rafael Nadal 3/1
Andy Murray 7/2
Novak Djokovic 4/1
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 12/1
 

Messarger

Hall of Fame
I'd like to think Nadal is at 3/1 due to his odds. Murray is probably ahead of Djoker because he had a slightly better indoor season with a MS, defeating Federer.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
is anyone surprised fed is the fave?...all the talk of decline then he hits the u.s. open and he's right back to the favorite role in the next major
 

edmondsm

Legend
I guess because Federer is the 3 time champ, and has the consecutive semifinal streak, he is favored over the other guys who may have played better recently but they do not have the GS resume that he does.
 

matchmaker

Hall of Fame
I anything, I am surprised to see Fed is the fave, he is only number two now and actually Djokovic is at one match of taking over his spot.

OTOH it is understandable, he is the 3-times champion and has won the last Slam on HC.

There is not much difference between Murray and Djoko. I believe reasonably their chances are very similar.

Actually Nadal should be rated lower, because although he is number 1, he never reached a HC Slam final, let alone win one, like Murray and Djokovic have done.

Tsonga's chances are also very optimistic, although he had a very convincing year end once he got rid of his injuries.
 
Djokovic is subject to moods. He will be under a lot of pressure and could fall apart if things don't go well early in the tournament.
 

MajinX

Professional
is anyone surprised fed is the fave?...all the talk of decline then he hits the u.s. open and he's right back to the favorite role in the next major

if a 13 time GS winner, including the winner of the last HC GS plus world number 2 doesnt make him the fave then what does it take??
 

DoubleDeuce

Hall of Fame
Some interesting points and advice for betters.

Credit: pockerguru

Men’s

Roger Federer: 2 to 1
I like this a lot right now. For several years prior to this year’s French Open, you could rarely get odds at anything better than even money on Federer at any Grand Slam outside of Roland Garros. Now, of course, things have changed with Federer not quite as dominant and contenders like Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic, and Andy Murray really asserting themselves. Still, Federer had mono during the Australian Open 2008 (and beyond), to that damaged his chances of winning a fourth title Down Under. There’s no reason to think Federer won’t be 100 percent when he heads to Melbourne this time around. When you’re dealing with a healthy and hungry (to get back his No. 1 ranking) Federer, I’ll take 2 to 1 odds in a hard-court tournament any day.

Rafael Nadal: 7 to 2
For now I would not touch this one. Nadal has never won any of the two hard-court Grand Slams (Australian Open and U.S. Open) and he has never even made it past the semifinals at either one. It’s hard to imagine that changing when Nadal is not at 100 percent physically. Knee tendinitis crippled the end of his otherwise-incredible 2008 campaign, and with tendinitis, you never know when it’s going to subside. Obviously Nadal’s health with be the sole dictator of his updated odds as the Australian Open draws nearer, but right now 7 to 2 is far from safe.

Andy Murray: 4 to 1
Yes, please. A lot of fans probably consider Murray to be the favorite right now. He won Masters Series titles in Cincinnati and Madrid and seemed poised to end the season with a Masters Cup trophy, but playing three hours against Federer (in a win) damaged those chances. Still, Murray concluded 2008 as the hottest player on tour and he should come out of the gates firing in 2009…and eager to reverse his fate of a first-round loss to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga at this year’s Aussie Open.

Novak Djokovic: 5 to 1
Before the Masters Cup, such odds would have been abhorrent. Now, however, Djokovic definitely appears to have a fighting chance of successfully defending his 2008 Aussie crown. Keep your enthusiasm tempered, however, as the Serb did not face the toughest competition en route to the Shanghai title. For much of the second half of 2008, Djokovic lost when he had to face the big boys (Federer at the U.S. Open, Murray in Cincinnati, Tsonga on three different occasions during the indoor season). That said, it’s always a great feeling to return to the site of your greatest triumph and that will help Djokovic’s efforts next January.

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga: 12 to 1
Bettors who like to take risks should get all over this one. We saw at the Australian Open 2008 (and again at the Masters Series Paris) what happens when Tsonga gets hot. He is almost impossible to stop. Furthermore, the Frenchman loves the big stages of tennis and he is not afraid to go up against the top players, which he will have to do in order to win a Grand Slam title. Obviously Tsonga is a longshot, but if he is still healthy come January (and he should be following the off-season), 12 to 1 odds are more than enough to convince action.

Juan Martin Del Potro: 33 to 1
It’s still probably too soon for the 20-year-old to really break out at a Grand Slam. He reached the quarterfinals at the U.S. Open this year, but he has never done better than that at any of the four Majors. Del Potro can catch fire, as we saw this summer when he won four straight tournaments in between Wimbledon and the French Open, so putting at least something down on 33 to 1 odds might be a good idea. Don’t expect it to bear fruit, however. The 6’6’’ Argentine is probably one more year away from true greatness.

Other contenders

40 to 1: Andy Roddick and Ernests Gulbis
Take Roddick if you are inclined to take one of the two. He is a Grand Slam champion (2003 U.S. Open) and he still has some good years left in him. Gulbis has as much talent as anyone on tour, but rarely has he put it together (he did for brief stretches at the 2007 U.S. Open and 2008 French Open). Based on his past history (albeit a short one), it’s surprising to see Gulbis as the sixth or seventh favorite to win the Australian Open. Quarterfinals? Sure, there is a fine chance of that if he gets a favorable draw? Champion? No sir. Not yet.

50 to 1: Nikolay Davydenko, Gilles Simon, David Nalbandian
What I find interesting about this is that of the three, I think Simon has the best chance of reaching the semifinals. But of the three, I think he has the smallest chance of winning the whole tournament. Why? Well, it’s not that complicated at all. Simon is as consistent as they come; you know what you are going to get from him every time he takes the court. Davydenko and Nalbandian are hit or miss. They can be incredible (see Nalbandian’s end of 2007 and Davydenko’s 2008 title at the Masters Series Miami), but they can also be terrible. They can lose first round at the Australian Open 2009, yet they can also go all the way (Nalbandian has a far better chance of winning it all, however, than Davydenko). Simon will almost certainly survive the first week, but his past history at Grand Slams (never past the fourth round) suggests that he is not yet ready for a major breakout.
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
so Tsonga is the fifth favorite? interesting... I hope he defends the majority of his points
 

caulcano

Hall of Fame
I was surprised to see that Murray is ahead of Djokovic. Considering that Djokovic is the defending champ, is ranked higher, and just won the MC I thought that he would be a lock to be ahead of Murray. Hell I think you could make the argument that he should be ahead of Nadal.

Roger Federer 2/1
Rafael Nadal 3/1
Andy Murray 7/2
Novak Djokovic 4/1
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 12/1

Here would be my list:
Djokovic (defending champion & great end to 2008. seems to have got some of his mojo back).
Murray (again a very good showing towards the end of 2008. the rest may be enough give him a very good run in a HC GS).
Federer (back for the USO but faltered towards the end of the year).
Nadal (obviously, injuries towards the end of the year curtailed him season prematurely, so has he recovered in time. has improved on HC by making 2 SF).
 

shintan17

Semi-Pro
Fed should be favorite on any tourneys except clay. He is the most consistent player on all surfaces. I still think Fed is favorite to win the Wimby next year as well (and I am not his fan, just being realistic, 5 time champion there)
 

edmondsm

Legend
I can't believe Roddick and Gulbis have the same odds. I mean I know that Roddick isn't the slam contender that he once was, but what has Gulbis done to deserve being put right there with him?
 

Zaragoza

Banned
Odds are different from one site to another.

The top 4 are pretty close on Sportingbet.com:

Federer, Roger 3.25
Nadal, Rafael 3.50
Murray, Andrew 4.00
Djokovic, Novak 4.50
Del Potro, Juan Martín 17.00
Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried 17.00
Davydenko, Nikolay 26.00
Nalbandian, David 34.00
Roddick, Andy 51.00
Simon, Gilles 51.00

Bet365.com:

Roger Federer 2.75
Rafael Nadal 3.50
Andrew Murray 4.33
Novak Djokovic 5.00
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 13.00
Juan Martin Del Potro 21.00
Nikolay Davydenko 29.00
Ernests Gulbis 34.00
David Nalbandian 34.00
Gilles Simon 34.00
Andy Roddick 41.00

Interesting that they rate Gulbis and Simon over Roddick. I would more or less agree with the odds on Sportingbet, not with these ones.
I think Djokovic is underrated on both, 5/1 on Djokovic to win the AO is really tempting.
 

jrod

Hall of Fame
I can't believe Roddick and Gulbis have the same odds. I mean I know that Roddick isn't the slam contender that he once was, but what has Gulbis done to deserve being put right there with him?

Valid point...when is the last time Gulbis strung together 7 'best of 5 set' match wins in a row? How about in a 2 week interval in the blistering OZ heat?

I really don't see it happening...not in 09. That said, I'd really enjoy it if he did win it!
 

edmondsm

Legend
Interesting that they rate Gulbis and Simon over Roddick. I would more or less agree with the odds on Sportingbet, not with these ones.
I think Djokovic is underrated on both, 5/1 on Djokovic to win the AO is really tempting.

Yeah Gulbis is really getting overrated by these betting sites. I don't know what the deal is. He hasn't done anything to deserve those kind of ratings. He's getting better odds then top 10 players and he's ranked #53.:-?
 

vtmike

Banned
Yeah Gulbis is really getting overrated by these betting sites. I don't know what the deal is. He hasn't done anything to deserve those kind of ratings. He's getting better odds then top 10 players and he's ranked #53.:-?

He maybe ranked low but hes got more talent than a lot of the top ten players.......
 

Fedace

Banned
I was surprised to see that Murray is ahead of Djokovic. Considering that Djokovic is the defending champ, is ranked higher, and just won the MC I thought that he would be a lock to be ahead of Murray. Hell I think you could make the argument that he should be ahead of Nadal.

Roger Federer 2/1
Rafael Nadal 3/1
Andy Murray 7/2
Novak Djokovic 4/1
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 12/1

Like the odds on Murray. if they seen him training like a madman, that odds would not be 7/2. would be more like 1/1:)
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
if a 13 time GS winner, including the winner of the last HC GS plus world number 2 doesnt make him the fave then what does it take??

well, i didn't say it was shocking, but considering the way djokovic finished plus the fact he's defending champion and beat federer along the way...and how murray finished, beating fed twice on hardcourts...and fed ending theseason injured after completing a less than stellar season for him....it's at least a less obvious thing than the odds going into the last oz open
 

DJG

Semi-Pro
Talent doesn't win slams. Winning matches is what wins slams.

I quite like that quote. Thinking of it, I like it very much.

I took a look at what the betting exchanges have up currently (sorry, US customers):

Federer 3.35
Nadal 5.8
Murray 6.8
Djokovic 7
Tsonga 20
Del Potro 42
Roddick 48
Simon 50
Nalbandian 65
Davydenko 65
Gulbis 85
 

luckyboy1300

Hall of Fame
well, i didn't say it was shocking, but considering the way djokovic finished plus the fact he's defending champion and beat federer along the way...and how murray finished, beating fed twice on hardcourts...and fed ending theseason injured after completing a less than stellar season for him....it's at least a less obvious thing than the odds going into the last oz open

we're talking about slams here. murray can talk and boast his 4-2 record over federer but those 4 did not include a slam victory, so in a slam it's still insignificant. federer only lost to 3 players in slams since 2005: nadal, safin and djokovic. it only means that in slams, federer is in another level.
 

DoubleDeuce

Hall of Fame
we're talking about slams here. murray can talk and boast his 4-2 record over federer but those 4 did not include a slam victory, so in a slam it's still insignificant. federer only lost to 3 players in slams since 2005: nadal, safin and djokovic. it only means that in slams, federer is in another level.

I agree to this. Murray knows he has been weak physically to meet the demands of a slam. He focused then more on cheap points with serves and training hard to become more fit. I still think if he gets couple of tough 5 setters he will be spent by the time he gets to the final, if he does.
 

edmondsm

Legend
I quite like that quote. Thinking of it, I like it very much.

I took a look at what the betting exchanges have up currently (sorry, US customers):

Federer 3.35
Nadal 5.8
Murray 6.8
Djokovic 7
Tsonga 20
Del Potro 42
Roddick 48
Simon 50
Nalbandian 65
Davydenko 65
Gulbis 85

There ya go that looks a little better. I guess Tsonga deserves to be where he's at. That win in Paris was impressive. Del Potro is a factor but I wonder how his foot is doing. Did he have surgery on it?
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
to double deuce and luckyboy..these guys who win slams have to win their first at some time...i don't have any doubt of murray's ability (now) to work his way through a slam...it was unfortunate he had to play back to back at flushing while roger got to rest, but you have to be kidding if four wins over fed aren't a factor...it's still tennis whatever the tournament and winning breeds confidence...he'll have it in spades heading into melbourne, so will joker, so will roger, and so will nadal and tsonga and others...one year ago the only one going into oz with a huge degree of confidence, truly proven, was roger, and joker won there...even die-hard fed fans would have to admit it's far more open heading into this year's event
 
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edmondsm

Legend
to double deuce and luckyboy..these guys who win slams have to win their first at some time...i don't have any doubt of murray's ability (now) to work his way through a slam...it was unfortunate he had to play back to back at flushing while roger got to rest, but you have to be kidding if four wins over fed aren't a factor...it's still tennis whatever the tournament and winning breeds confidence...he'll have it in spades heading into melbourne, so will joker, so will roger, and so will nadal and tsonga and others...one year ago the only one going into oz with a huge degree of confidence, truly proven, was roger, and joker won there...even die-hard fed fans would have to admit it's far more open heading into this year's event

Good post. Djokovic was essentially in the exact same position last year as Murray is this year. He had just lost in the USO final to Fed, and had a very strong year at the other big tourneys. One thing is for sure, Murray is primed to make a huge points gain in January.
 

DoubleDeuce

Hall of Fame
to double deuce and luckyboy..these guys who win slams have to win their first at some time...i don't have any doubt of murray's ability (now) to work his way through a slam

Sure Murray has chances, just like Tsonga and Simon do, no doubt.

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it was unfortunate he had to play back to back at flushing while roger got to rest, but you have to be kidding if four wins over fed aren't a factor...it's still tennis whatever the tournament and winning breeds confidence
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Well he can get unfortunate again, like I said if he gets a tough 5 setter he will have difficulty going into final. Winning breeds confidence, therefore we both know Davydenko ,Nalbandian, Blake, Djoker, can put him away. His chances are more dependent on the draw and the type of matches he gets, imo.

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edmondsm

Legend
Sure Murray has chances, just like Tsonga and Simon do, no doubt.

I would say Murray has a significantly better chance then these two. Tsonga has still not proved to me whether he can bring it consistantly, and Simon hasn't done squat at the slams.
 

DoubleDeuce

Hall of Fame
I would say Murray has a significantly better chance then these two. Tsonga has still not proved to me whether he can bring it consistantly, and Simon hasn't done squat at the slams.

Sure Murray has significantly better chances than Simon. The person I responded to was talking about chances so I said even simon has chances, it's not zero anyways.

Tsonga has proved to me when he gets fired up, especially in big stages where he draws energy from the audience, he can perform pretty good.
Safin was never consistent either, yet he won AUS. So can Tsonga.
 

edmondsm

Legend
Sure Murray has significantly better chances than Simon. The person I responded to was talking about chances so I said even simon has chances, it's not zero anyways.

Tsonga has proved to me when he gets fired up, especially in big stages where he draws energy from the audience, he can perform pretty good.
Safin was never consistent either, yet he won AUS. So can Tsonga.


Tsonga has huge potential and has just been the victim of injuries. It would be great to see him not only get another result that Aussie, but actually put together a year where he doesn't have to leave the tour and go have surgery or something of that nature.

Simon, I have to admit, I don't like his game. He looks really unathletic to me compared to the other players in the top 10. He moves like he's on stilts, but he's a tremendous ballstriker and fights really well. For the last several years there has been a surprise finalist at the AO, and I have this weird feeling that it's going to be Simon in 09'. But hell, maybe Nadal will finally make a hardcourt final. That would certainly be a surprise:)
 

DoubleDeuce

Hall of Fame
Tsonga has huge potential and has just been the victim of injuries. It would be great to see him not only get another result that Aussie, but actually put together a year where he doesn't have to leave the tour and go have surgery or something of that nature.

Simon, I have to admit, I don't like his game. He looks really unathletic to me compared to the other players in the top 10. He moves like he's on stilts, but he's a tremendous ballstriker and fights really well. For the last several years there has been a surprise finalist at the AO, and I have this weird feeling that it's going to be Simon in 09'. But hell, maybe Nadal will finally make a hardcourt final. That would certainly be a surprise:)

Yeah, Simon is not exactly my favorite player either, but he has this surprise factor in his game. You look at his legs and thin structure and you expect him to break down in long matches, but he comes up with this great shots after long rallies like the ones he had agains Nadal. His fighter mindset as you say and his stubbornness makes him good to watch at times.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
Sure Murray has chances, just like Tsonga and Simon do, no doubt.

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Well he can get unfortunate again, like I said if he gets a tough 5 setter he will have difficulty going into final. Winning breeds confidence, therefore we both know Davydenko ,Nalbandian, Blake, Djoker, can put him away. His chances are more dependent on the draw and the type of matches he gets, imo.

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i don't see any chance for blake against murray, very little for davy, slightly more for nalby than davy...winning does breed confidence....especially for hugely talented, versatile players, the better, higher-ranked ones...i simply believe murray, at this point is better than those three, ...Now when it comes to him beating the top three at majors, that's where the confidence really pays off...murray's already beaten nadal at one, and while he hasn't beaten fed or joker, he does have the multiple wins against them recently in his head, and theirs...i'm not fighting you dd, i respect your opinion..i just thought the "who else could be fave but fed" line of thinking can be challenged....although i have to say your thinking that murray just isn't physically ready, that a single five setter in the middle of the tourney would doom him seems severe....i'm not a hardcore murray fan, but it does seem his training has really paid off (more in miami now i hear) and i don't see why fitness would be any more of a factor for him now than the other top three (they've all had issues recently too)...i could be wrong, we'll see, but i'd worry far more for tsonga among the top threats or even del potro, if you consider him a top threat...i'm not sure i do, but i hope so...also, i know these actual gambling lines are done for other purposes than picking a winner..btw, i read yesterday patrick mcenroe views fed as a slight fave, for what that's worth...good talking to you, excited about the season
 

DoubleDeuce

Hall of Fame
i don't see any chance for blake against murray, very little for davy, slightly more for nalby than davy...winning does breed confidence....especially for hugely talented, versatile players, the better, higher-ranked ones...i simply believe murray, at this point is better than those three, ...Now when it comes to him beating the top three at majors, that's where the confidence really pays off...murray's already beaten nadal at one, and while he hasn't beaten fed or joker, he does have the multiple wins against them recently in his head, and theirs...i'm not fighting you dd, i respect your opinion..i just thought the "who else could be fave but fed" line of thinking can be challenged....although i have to say your thinking that murray just isn't physically ready, that a single five setter in the middle of the tourney would doom him seems severe....i'm not a hardcore murray fan, but it does seem his training has really paid off (more in miami now i hear) and i don't see why fitness would be any more of a factor for him now than the other top three (they've all had issues recently too)...i could be wrong, we'll see, but i'd worry far more for tsonga among the top threats or even del potro, if you consider him a top threat...i'm not sure i do, but i hope so...also, i know these actual gambling lines are done for other purposes than picking a winner..btw, i read yesterday patrick mcenroe views fed as a slight fave, for what that's worth...good talking to you, excited about the season

See, the person I responded too was reasoning, rightly so, that winning breeds confidence. Using this same reasoning I pointed out that Davy and Nalby ( I agree though that Blake doesnt have much chance against M) have confidence advantage over Murray and they could put him away. I am hoping he meets one of the two, so we can see that for real.
Yes, Murray has been working hard recently and I am sure he will show up super fit and ready to go. The thing is I see his anatomy and playing style missing something needed to go the extra mile. I may be wrong too, it's just an opinion and only time will tell.
I am also excited about next month and cant wait, we fill up the gap by doing this discussions and most of these will be forgotten when the real thing comes on the screens. Good talking to you too.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
I gotta say that the odds on Djokovic and Murray are tempting.

is anyone surprised fed is the fave?...all the talk of decline then he hits the u.s. open and he's right back to the favorite role in the next major

I'd guess the reasons betting sites put Fed as the first favourite is that he won the last HC slam and is a 3 time AO champion.But still I have to admit I was suprised at the odds a little bit as well,I think both Murray and Djokovic are being a little underrated on those betting sites and I don't see Fed as a clear-cut favourite this time,a slight favourite-yes.

it was unfortunate he had to play back to back at flushing while roger got to rest

He was also unfortunate Fed played better than him in the USO final.Murray has worked really hard on his fitness this year,I'm sure he can handle 2 sets one day and then a set and a half next day.

but you have to be kidding if four wins over fed aren't a factor.

I agree with this one,Murray wins over Fed will give him more confidence when he faces Roger in a slam next time,that's why Fed tried so hard to beat Murray at TMC and why Murray said that winning against Fed means as much or even more than winning TMC.Confidence plays a big part in tennis(in any sport actually)however don't forget that Murray went into the USO final this year with a winning record against Fed and still lost.So while those wins against Fed(especially the ones in Madrid and TMC)will give Murray more confidence against Fed the fact remains that Fed is tougher to beat in a best of five match in slam than in a masters tourney.

even die-hard fed fans would have to admit it's far more open heading into this year's event

Yes,have to agree.I'm a die hard Fed fan but AO next year is a very open slam for sure.I think that all of the big 4(Nadal,Fed,Djokovic,Murray)have a good chance to win AO with maybe Fed being the slight favourite.
 
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oneleggedcardinal

Guest
He was also unfortunate Fed played better than him in the USO final.Murray has worked really hard on his fitness this year,I'm sure he can handle 2 sets one day and then a set and a half next day.

I'm inclined to agree after taking into account Murray's successes this year coupled with those training photos someone posted of him in another thread. The most convincing aspect of those photos isn't the fitness itself, but the hunger it reflects...even though he rubs me the wrong way, Murray plays good enough tennis and is displaying enough willingness to improve his results considerably in 2009.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
I gotta say that the odds on Djokovic and Murray are tempting.



I'd guess the reasons betting sites put Fed as the first favourite is that he won the last HC slam and is a 3 time AO champion.But still I have to admit I was suprised at the odds a little bit as well,I think both Murray and Djokovic are being a little underrated on those betting sites and I don't see Fed as a clear-cut favourite this time,a slight favourite-yes.



He was also unfortunate Fed played better than him in the USO final.Murray has worked really hard on his fitness this year,I'm sure he can handle 2 sets one day and then a set and a half next day.



I agree with this one,Murray wins over Fed will give him more confidence when he faces Roger in a slam next time,that's why Fed tried so hard to beat Murray at TMC and why Murray said that winning against Fed means as much or even more than winning TMC.Confidence plays a big part in tennis(in any sport actually)however don't forget that Murray went into the USO final this year with a winning record against Fed and still lost.So while those wins against Fed(especially the ones in Madrid and TMC)will give Murray more confidence against Fed the fact remains that Fed is tougher to beat in a best of five match in slam than in a masters tourney.



Yes,have to agree.I'm a die hard Fed fan but AO next year is a very open slam for sure.I think that all of the big 4(Nadal,Fed,Djokovic,Murray)have a good chance to win AO with maybe Fed being the slight favourite.

the u.s. open decision to not start the semis at the same time was unfortunate....should he have been able to overcome it, perhaps? maybe it was as much mental...having finally beaten nadal to see fed across the net the next day..granted that's the usual way it works at flushing, but it was a break for fed..one i don't think any other player has received (?)..but he sure did make sure to take advantage
 

mrmo1115

Hall of Fame
I hope we have another miracle player to surprise the field.

I love the Aussie Open and staying up late to catch Live Tennis.

*crossing fingers*
 

Parabolica

Semi-Pro
It's true that Murray has made some strides in fitness but i'm not convinced it's enough. A perfect example is 2008 masters. He didn't have the energy to face Davy after only a 3hr match with Fed the day before (only a 3 set match). There is a good chance he will be in several 5 set matches in a major, due to his style of game.

I hope he can do it though as i like his game overall and think he can be an excellent tactical player.
 

David L

Hall of Fame
the u.s. open decision to not start the semis at the same time was unfortunate....should he have been able to overcome it, perhaps? maybe it was as much mental...having finally beaten nadal to see fed across the net the next day..granted that's the usual way it works at flushing, but it was a break for fed..one i don't think any other player has received (?)..but he sure did make sure to take advantage
It may have affected Murray mentally, but it shouldn't have physically. Many players, including Federer, have been in the position at the US Open where they had to play Saturday and Sunday, with one less day of rest than their opponent, from the quarter-final stage. Some don't manage to get any rest at all. One of the most famous incidents was in the 1992 US Open when Edberg had to play every day from the 4th round up to the final, while Sampras enjoyed days off. It might not have been so bad had Edberg's first 3 matches from the 4th round not been gruelling 5 set encounters, yet he was still able to put Sampras away in 4 in the final. Winning Slams is about coping with your own set of circumstances better than your opponents, not having everything perfectly laid out for you. The way Federer played, I doubt having an extra day off would have made much difference for Murray.
 
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