OvertheFence
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Can someone explain how this works, and pros/cons. thnx
omg , it took me a while - lol. I didn't know you switched off "coach mode" !!!
I don't know whether OP is referring to the wrist flick which you elaborated on elsewhere ?
Good stuff.I'm wrong quite often.....
For me, the idea of WW is to insure a full follow tru, similar in hitting a baseball or a golfstroke. The full followthru forces a longer hitting zone, and a correct hitting form.
As far as actual impact, I don't consider hitting while trying to WW. The WW, to me, is the end of the followthru.
* Get low on your back foot
* Big shoulder turn on your takeback
* Swing out while remaining in your laid back position.
If your racket face is open enough and you've put enough juice on it, you'll send the ball over the fence, into the parking lot, and maybe, just maybe, hit a windshield wiper with your backhand.
Post #5 ??
Does anyone know what backhand grip Wawrinka uses?
One handed backhands are not windshield wiper motions, you'll miss a lot of balls with this mindset. It may resemble it, but the motion you're looking for is low to high. The flourish makes it look like a WW, but you'll find difficulties with a OHBH trying to emulate a ww motion
Same as Gasquet or something very similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4t-l7KX1RM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewDuDmoWMFk&feature=related
I agreed that it may resemble it, but I just believe it's misleading to call it windshield wiper. The mechanics are very different. I think a lot of people would go out there trying to hit a ww forehand on their backhand side. Wawrinka's foundation is still a classic one handed backhand, low to high despite his supination. It also ends short of the full WW motion because of the range of motion on backhand side. Where WW forehand the racquet could very well finish at the waist.
WW takes away from how different a onehand backhand is from both forehand and the 2hbh. There really should be more emphasis on how different these strokes are especially the use of shoulder and legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4t-l7KX1RM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewDuDmoWMFk&feature=related
I agreed that it may resemble it, but I just believe it's misleading to call it windshield wiper. The mechanics are very different. I think a lot of people would go out there trying to hit a ww forehand on their backhand side. Wawrinka's foundation is still a classic one handed backhand, low to high despite his supination. It also ends short of the full WW motion because of the range of motion on backhand side. Where WW forehand the racquet could very well finish at the waist.
WW takes away from how different a onehand backhand is from both forehand and the 2hbh. There really should be more emphasis on how different these strokes are especially the use of shoulder and legs.
True, however I do think that Wawrinka's backhand should be classified separately from Federer's one hand backhand. Though they both have the same basic principals behind them, Wawrinka does a few things significantly different, which is why he can drive through and create more topspin.
Good stuff.
no, eastern.
I find it very creepy (a la Hitchcock's Pycho) the way you copy Bungalo Bill's posting style.
Who pissed in your Cheerio's this morning?
That's how he always is. He's a well known troll, just ignore him. He tried to accuse a world class coach of not knowing what he was talking about.
That's how he always is. He's a well known troll, just ignore him. He tried to accuse a world class coach of not knowing what he was talking about.
Who pissed in your Cheerio's this morning?
This is good stuff.
lol it's pretty transparent Djokovicfan4life
Same as Gasquet or something very similar.
Wawrinka does not use an Eastern Backhand grip. I seriously don't know what you are looking at.
Eastern grip, the ball is only between chest and waist and you can see he's approaching the very limit of his grip in terms of the height it can handle before having to actually bend his wrist downward. A player using a semi western grip on the other hand would have his hand nearly fully laid back at this point.
Ok? personal attack much? I was right about that guy btw, he said you should hit the serve facing the court, no knee bend etc, insane. I don't know anyone else apart from yourself who calls me a troll btw.
And Yes, Wawrinka does have an Eastern Grip on his backhand, and I have no reason to be biased as I am a big fan of the semi western backhand. I've witnessed his backhand crumble against Nadal as well.
Now back in your cave.
???????????????????????????Ok Gorilla.
That was the consensus yes.Ok. We get it. You're a world class coach. You > The Serve Doctor.
I hardly ever post on these forums, what are you talking about?Wait......... why are you on these forums again? Didn't you get banned? Oh that's right. You can't live without these forums.
His backhand is a semi-western grip.[/quote
No it isn't, look at the still.
When he lost in straight sets? Nadal has a 3 - 0 record against Stan.I sure didn't see his backhand crumble at Stuttgart when he played Nadal on clay.
His backhand is a semi-western grip. I sure didn't see his backhand crumble at Stuttgart when he played Nadal on clay.