Most Universally Liked Player Ever
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jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Guga. Never heard anyone say anything bad about him.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
He used to be when he was young though, a lot!
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I love the objectivity of a poll that puts Federer among the choices but not Nadal...
DarthFed
Hall of Fame
It's blatantly obvious that he shouldn't be there:???:
But i agree with you neither should Fed....im suprised the anti-fans haven't nailed him to a cross yet
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about edberg before, I think he is universally liked.
theagassiman
Rookie
The thing is though, Nadal is hated by a lot of people.
Even though if you put all the bad things Nadal and Federer have done together, logically, it should be Federer who is hated more.
DarthFed
Hall of Fame
Wait are we talking universally as in this forum? or in general? because otherwise for me it's fed, on this forum it's Andre
out of my household alone, Me, my mom (she finds him handsome), my 2 younger brothers, and my uncle are Fed fans, only my dad likes Nadal (my parents are casual viewers though)
out of my household alone, Me, my mom (she finds him handsome), my 2 younger brothers, and my uncle are Fed fans, only my dad likes Nadal (my parents are casual viewers though)
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
well..Davydenko dosent have the appeal that people want to see but I personally agree with your views about him
I love Marat too
DarthFed
Hall of Fame
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
WTF? What kind if a logic is that?
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
well yes,you're right in a way.But many could never relate to Edberg.Surprisngly Borg inspite of being the ice man had a gigantic fan base..or so I've heard.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
what bad things? I don't understand how either of these two people are anyone on the atp tour can be hated unless they did something horrible. Did anyone come after your mom or something? Being blunt and saying things that can thought of as hurtful doesn't equal "all the bad things".
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TennisandMusic
Guest
I'd say Edberg by far.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
well i don't know about relating to him, but he was known to be very classy and was really pleasant to watch oncourt. This is just from what I've heard and seen.
DarthFed
Hall of Fame
Borg seems like a guy i could have been friends with in a different time and place
His unwavering and composed facial expression and quiet demeanor (from what i've seen) practically mirrors my own
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
I was talking about edberg.
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
yeah he was amazing to watch , thats for sure..aesthetically pleasing.One player who's vids I can always watch.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I guarantee that if we could actually poll players, the most universally liked player would be a an everyday tour player, not one of the elite.
There's a difference between being affirmatively liked as a person, and simply not being disliked.
Being a champion takes a certain focus and intensity that in some ways can isolate the best from the rest. At the very least, since the best players are always going deep in tournaments and are usually regimented in their preparation, they have less time to hang around, get to really know other players as people. I'm sure they have a few "friends" on tour, but beyond that, they won't have as much time to get to know others. And, the best players usually have bigger entourages who can take up a lot of time.
Of course, they know everyone from the lockeroom as you know and I know everyone at work because we see them all the time, but really getting to know someone takes more than repeated small-talk discussions.
Someone like Jonas Bjorkman (just an example) would probably be the most universally liked.
There's a difference between being affirmatively liked as a person, and simply not being disliked.
Being a champion takes a certain focus and intensity that in some ways can isolate the best from the rest. At the very least, since the best players are always going deep in tournaments and are usually regimented in their preparation, they have less time to hang around, get to really know other players as people. I'm sure they have a few "friends" on tour, but beyond that, they won't have as much time to get to know others. And, the best players usually have bigger entourages who can take up a lot of time.
Of course, they know everyone from the lockeroom as you know and I know everyone at work because we see them all the time, but really getting to know someone takes more than repeated small-talk discussions.
Someone like Jonas Bjorkman (just an example) would probably be the most universally liked.
Ljubicic for number1
Hall of Fame
I think Pat Rafter would have won this pole if included.
carlos djackal
Professional
I would have voted for Patrick Rafter but since he ain't in the choices I'd go with Guga....
BorisBeckerFan
Professional
Gustavo Kuerten
Leublu tennis
Legend
Well, I would not have included Federer. I don't particularly like Federer and am not a Nadal fan either.
What I don't understand is the inclusion of Edberg. Why of all the former stars pick him? How is he more liked than Connors, Borg, or Becker? Anyway, its the posters thread and he has the right to make his own picks.
Leublu tennis
Legend
Oh, and I voted for Marat, who else. I think if this poll were open to the world, Marat would win hands down.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Hey, where's John McEnroe on this list? :shock:
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Deleted member 21996
Guest
i forgot to mention them previously but most definitelly Kuerten and Rafter like someone said...
also going a bit backwards... Amritraj...
also going a bit backwards... Amritraj...
origmarm
Hall of Fame
Completely agree with this. Him or Guga of the modern crowd. Rafter apparently was well liked also but had a tendency to get confrontational with people sometimes I've read. I'd also put in a vote for Edberg. Gerulaitus though for me is the "all time" winner.
charliefedererer
Legend
Stefan Edberg was so well liked that they should name an award after him.
oscar_2424
Legend
I second that.
That name "Nadal" will be long remembered when all the others are forgotten
paulorenzo
Hall of Fame
how so? as of now, i can bet more people will remember the names Laver, Sampras, and Federer.
longevity is key. when jim courier was number one he won a few slams, up until his legs quit during quarterfinal matches of tournies.
only the future can tell for certain, but history gives huge hints.
Have Sampras and Federer won on all surfaces in a year: FO, Olympics, Wimbledon, AO - or have i missed something here? Did they inject some of the passion back into tennis that had been missing for so long?
paulorenzo
Hall of Fame
rafan;3351207[B said:
that is great that rafa has done that for you. rafa, to this date, has done a lot, for sure. but most people can still argue, and will argue successfully, that rafa isn't as accomplished as Laver and Sampras, and even Federer. to answer your question, federer has won on all surfaces in one year, and so has Laver(all surfaces at the time).
if you consider the AO and Olympic, Beijing courts to be different surfaces, then your argument fails, Rafa hasn't won on all surfaces in a single year because he hasn't won on the USO hardcourts.
i guess you are missing something. but don't get me wrong, rafa is certainly on his way, but there are a lot of variables in his way. stamina throughout the year, injury due to style of play, possible lack of career longevity due to style of play. i'm being very objective here.
The USO will no doubt be on his agenda this year - no problem
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I think he meant Federer (or Sampras for that matter) have not won slams on clay, grass and hard court.
Your distinction between Olympic hard court and USO hard court doesn't make much sense since it was widely publicized that The Olympics and the USO surfaces were as similar as can be.
paulorenzo
Hall of Fame
he never mentioned "slam" in his original statement. so i guess he was referring to regular surfaces regardless of caliber. and i was just proving a point that hardcourts are hardcourts. rafa won on hard, as well as sampras and federer. rafa federer and sampras have all won on hard, grass and clay. albeit sampras may not have won on all 3 surfaces in one year.
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
He only mentioned slams + Olympics in his post. You really thought he meant tournaments like Kitzbuhel?
I for one am telling you that Nadal is the only one of the 3 (Federer and Sampras) who has won slams on grass, clay and hard and who doesn't have a weak surface.
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