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Donald Young is now 20 and still hasnt lost to a player younger than him. When will he suffer his first loss to a player younger than him.
He's been doing this his whole life so it's not really worth mentioning.i think beating someone older is more impressive than not losing to anyone younger.
Donald Young is now 20 and still hasnt lost to a player younger than him. When will he suffer his first loss to a player younger than him.
Donald Young might never lose to a player younger then him as he will probably out of tennis in 2 years....
Probably right. DY can't seem to beat any legit pro (outside of Feliciano Lopez for some reason). A couple years ago he looked like he might be maturing as a player, but his results are totally pedestrian now. He won't be able to make a living at the rate he's going.
It's really too bad. His parents should write a book called, "How To Flush Talent Down the Toilet."
Personally I thought his talent was always overrated; he doesn't have the athleticism IMO nor the ball striking abilities to compete.
I don't get the athleticism thing. Have you ever seen him play? He moves like a gazelle. His ballstriking is another story. But I see that as being symptomatic of his parents refusal to get him coaching from outside the family. I think a good coach would have changed his fh mechanics.
I find his biggest problem is he makes too many unforced errors.
He can move fast but he's not very strong. Can't seem to put a ball away like most of the top 100 can.
That's true, but would you characterize Federer as strong? That guy has skinnier arms then me, yet can hit a 100mph forehand no problem. Technique will get you winners just like muscles will. Plus, it's not like you have to be a winner machine to succeed on tour. Look at how loopy Nadal played back in 2005, yet was killing dudes.
The real thing with DY is his brain. He doesn't have an athlete's mind. I followed DY pretty closely for a while, and I can't tell you how many 6-7, 0-6 scorelines I saw. He can be totally in a match, lose the tiebreak, and then get blown off the court. The guy just folds mentally when he has a battle in front of him.
well its good we wont have to hear about young anymore, there are better prospects surely now in america
Can't seem to put a ball away like most of the top 100 can.
Federer is definitely stronger than given credit for. He may not look it, but I can tell you from first hand experience it takes a mighty fine arm to be able to hit some of those crosscourt backhand passhing shots from 10 feet back in the court.
Donald Young is fast, but for a guy his size I think he actually needs to be even faster. The problem is he has absolutely no firepower from anywhere on the court (serve, forehand, backhand). This is why he can get beat up by random clay court specialists on his best surface. He simply lacks weapons. Once in awhile he gets hot and all of a sudden everything clicks, but that happens to alot of guys in the top 100.
andy murray.
rafael nadal.
He moves well. But he's not very aggressive, he uses his athleticism to sort of make a spectacular get every so often, not to put his feet into aggressive court position like Nadal or Hewitt or Blake. Just saw him play yesterday in Calabasas Challenger. His biggest problem is he seems almost embarrassed out there, he has the attitude of a spoiled junior. Lot of pouting, lots of racket throwing, and he hit about 10 double faults in the first set and didn't seem interested in making any adjustments. I'm speculating, but a part of me thinks he feels he's too good for the Challengers, would rather be giving his all against a player that will surely beat him than really zero in on an opponent ranked 348 in the world, which was what the ranking was of Louk Sorensen, the guy he was playing.Personally I thought his talent was always overrated; he doesn't have the athleticism IMO nor the ball striking abilities to compete.
He does lack weapons. But he does seem to have great hands and feel. He's like Rios without the serve and extra gear on the groundstrokes. When he turned it on, he was taking the ball really early, hitting lines all over the place, really moving the ball around, stepping into the court, coming in at the end to put away the volley. He doesn't seem capable of maintaining that level, or is just unwilling? I'm surprised how he's beaten and taken sets off much higher ranked players. I'm guessing when he was nothing to lose, he takes the ball earlier and really goes after his shot patterns. In the Challenger, he was just looping the ball back and seemed angry and surprised that his opponent wasn't going to hand the match to him.The problem is he has absolutely no firepower from anywhere on the court (serve, forehand, backhand). This is why he can get beat up by random clay court specialists on his best surface. He simply lacks weapons. Once in awhile he gets hot and all of a sudden everything clicks, but that happens to alot of guys in the top 100.
i think beating someone older is more impressive than not losing to anyone younger.
He moves well. But he's not very aggressive, he uses his athleticism to sort of make a spectacular get every so often, not to put his feet into aggressive court position like Nadal or Hewitt or Blake. Just saw him play yesterday in Calabasas Challenger. His biggest problem is he seems almost embarrassed out there, he has the attitude of a spoiled junior. Lot of pouting, lots of racket throwing, and he hit about 10 double faults in the first set and didn't seem interested in making any adjustments. I'm speculating, but a part of me thinks he feels he's too good for the Challengers, would rather be giving his all against a player that will surely beat him than really zero in on an opponent ranked 348 in the world, which was what the ranking was of Louk Sorensen, the guy he was playing.He does lack weapons. But he does seem to have great hands and feel. He's like Rios without the serve and extra gear on the groundstrokes. When he turned it on, he was taking the ball really early, hitting lines all over the place, really moving the ball around, stepping into the court, coming in at the end to put away the volley. He doesn't seem capable of maintaining that level, or is just unwilling? I'm surprised how he's beaten and taken sets off much higher ranked players. I'm guessing when he was nothing to lose, he takes the ball earlier and really goes after his shot patterns. In the Challenger, he was just looping the ball back and seemed angry and surprised that his opponent wasn't going to hand the match to him.
In a way, he reminds me of Kournikova, another player who needed to be firing on all cylinders to beat good players. She had talent but no weapon that could win her easy points and keep her in the match when she wasn't feeling it. Young's serve appears to still be very underpowered. And his second serve doesn't have a lot of action on it and looked like a slightly slower version of his first serve. Cecil Mamiit appeared to have a bigger serve. And maybe Young should try a new racket. I know it's a running joke around here about Fed using a bigger racket, but Young could use some more power on groundstrokes and he shanks a lot. His racket head looked small, I think he might still be using Prestige Classic under that paint job.
His mom was there. He really needs a real coach. I think if a good coach sent him into a match with some specific advice about that day's opponent, he might be able to concentrate on the game plan enough where he doesn't start pouting, moping around, throwing rackets, yelling, looking embarrassed out there. It would help his game and act as a distraction. I kind of felt bad for him. Earlier in the day, I saw him wandering around wearing his headphones. He was kind of wandering through the points for the better part of the first two sets as well.DY, Kournikova, maybe they are the tennis equivalent. They love it when they are winning, can't handle it or recover, when they're losing.
.but Young could use some more power on groundstrokes and he shanks a lot. His racket head looked small, I think he might still be using Prestige Classic under that paint job.
Man, Donald is ripping through the draw now. Wish I could have went to watch Mamiit play Russell. Anybody know who won?
He moves well. But he's not very aggressive, he uses his athleticism to sort of make a spectacular get every so often, not to put his feet into aggressive court position like Nadal or Hewitt or Blake. Just saw him play yesterday in Calabasas Challenger. His biggest problem is he seems almost embarrassed out there, he has the attitude of a spoiled junior. Lot of pouting, lots of racket throwing, and he hit about 10 double faults in the first set and didn't seem interested in making any adjustments. I'm speculating, but a part of me thinks he feels he's too good for the Challengers, would rather be giving his all against a player that will surely beat him than really zero in on an opponent ranked 348 in the world, which was what the ranking was of Louk Sorensen, the guy he was playing.He does lack weapons. But he does seem to have great hands and feel. He's like Rios without the serve and extra gear on the groundstrokes. When he turned it on, he was taking the ball really early, hitting lines all over the place, really moving the ball around, stepping into the court, coming in at the end to put away the volley. He doesn't seem capable of maintaining that level, or is just unwilling? I'm surprised how he's beaten and taken sets off much higher ranked players. I'm guessing when he was nothing to lose, he takes the ball earlier and really goes after his shot patterns. In the Challenger, he was just looping the ball back and seemed angry and surprised that his opponent wasn't going to hand the match to him.
In a way, he reminds me of Kournikova, another player who needed to be firing on all cylinders to beat good players. She had talent but no weapon that could win her easy points and keep her in the match when she wasn't feeling it. Young's serve appears to still be very underpowered. And his second serve doesn't have a lot of action on it and looked like a slightly slower version of his first serve. Cecil Mamiit appeared to have a bigger serve. And maybe Young should try a new racket. I know it's a running joke around here about Fed using a bigger racket, but Young could use some more power on groundstrokes and he shanks a lot. His racket head looked small, I think he might still be using Prestige Classic under that paint job.
He's in the finals of a Challenger.Isnt Young playing a tournament now? How is he doing.
He's doing as well as a lot less hyped people have done before him.It is amazing such a mediocre player can be 20 and still having not lost to someone younger than him.
You're talking about Grand Slam wins, but a lot of solid pros, and top 10 pros, have made their marks as teens. A lot of solid pros, not even future hall of famers, have done way more than Donald Young by 20. With that said, who cares what people have done before him? He's obviously not going to be playing for immortality, if he makes it even into the top 25 he'll probably make some great money, he's very marketable. So if you're saying we should stop criticizing him for not meeting arbitrary benchmarks of our own making, then I might agree. But this is fun to talk about. He was heralded as being a major talent by a lot of knowledgeable people.It also looks like he rarely plays someone younger than him. I am pretty sure there is nobody under 20 even in the ATP top 100 right now either. Mens tennis really is a mens game, other than the rare freakish exceptions like Borg, Nadal, Becker, Chang, and possibly Sampras and Agassi.
He was heralded as being a major talent by a lot of knowledgeable people.
Well, DY ended up taking the title in straights, 7-6, 6-1.