As I said in the other thread I think 3 slams for the Belgians next year.
AO - Clijsters, French - Henin, Wimbledon - Serena/Sharapova, US Open - Henin.
not many. they're not exactly young you know.
Can we just see how the start of 2010 goes before this crazy threads.
People make it sound like Henin went out on a high...she was losing to the likes of Jankovic and Ivanovic in 2008...seriously. Yippie Doo Clijsters won a slam when she came back..what are the odds of both doing it sorry for being a pessimist but highly unlikely. Hell what are the odds of Clijsters even winning another one? They could very will get all 4 and very well get none. Neither would overly suprise me. Let see how they do after the first slam of 2010 before we get excited.
Can we just see how the start of 2010 goes before this crazy threads.
People make it sound like Henin went out on a high...she was losing to the likes of Jankovic and Ivanovic in 2008...seriously. Yippie Doo Clijsters won a slam when she came back..what are the odds of both doing it sorry for being a pessimist but highly unlikely. Hell what are the odds of Clijsters even winning another one? They could very will get all 4 and very well get none. Neither would overly suprise me. Let see how they do after the first slam of 2010 before we get excited.
There is alot of crazy in your post. First of all while Henin had some bad losses in early 2008 she has never lost a match to either Jankovic or Ivanovic. It is best to check ones facts before making such false statements. Clijsters won a slam in only her 3rd tournament back, and would have won many slams back in her prime but for some time off with injuries, a bit of bad luck, a very early retirement, and most important the fact the womens field then was 5 times better than what it is now. Yet she is unlikely to win another one, LOL!
Your right I am sorry it was Safina who she lost too and Sharapova I got confused it was Serena who lost to Jankovic at the AO. Either way she lost to Safina someone who was just number 1 on the tour for a while and a huge choker. I mixed up losses your right I should check. Clijsters is also a lot older. There is a good chance she doesn't win another slam. There is a good chance she does. This is Kim Clijsters the women who found ways to lose the big matches. (POints to 2001 final vs Capriati) I am supposed to believe though Henin and Clijsters will come back next year and easily grab 4 slams? Its not like Serena will roll over and die? Which one of them will magically win wimbledon? AND EVENTUALLY...some other women will appear. Hell
Its so easy to pencil them in for three of the four slams. Honestly Clijsters went on a run she wasn't doing hot really prior to the US Open. She had a QF and a 3R..she lost convincingly to Safina and lost to Jankovic as well. It's not like she came back and dominated either, she went on a phenomenal run and deserved that slam, but a run like that is going to be hard to reproduce. I guess I want to see MORE RESULTS before I crown the two of the combining for all the slams next year
Clijsters win felt like more of a Goran moment then Agassi 99.
How would winning Wimbledon be so magical. The last 2 Wimbledons for women have been so desultory on the womens side some Chinese nobody ranked 133 or something was in the semis in 2008 and Safina who is a joke of a grass court player in the semis this past year. Other than the Williams the current womens field is even more clownish on grass than it is on clay (which is saying something) and Venus will be 30 years old by next years Wimbledon. Dementieva has been the 3rd best grass court player behind the Williams the last 2 years and had match point vs Serena this year. This is Dementieva, someone who isnt in the league of Henin or Clijsters on any surface. Anyway for those predicting 3 of 4 presumably Wimbledon would be the least likely of the 4 anyway.
Sorry Henin losing to Bartoli in wimbledon and neither grabbing a slam while Venus playing 10 tournaments a year could roll into wimbledon while the two were in their primes and rack up a few wimbledons doesn't make me think they really stand a chance.
Serena is a threat of course, but she is extremely vurnerable to quality competition at this point in her career. Whether people want to believe it or not the fact is she has benefited the most from people like Henin, Clijsters, and Sharapova being out of commision these last 2 years. Serena for a 5 yer span won only 2 slams, yet amazingly wins 3 of the last 5. Does anyone really believe this was some grand resurgence of form. No she is still just as out of shape and half commited to tennis at this point. She isnt anywhere near the player she used to be when she was so great and dominant in the early 2000s. The reason she has done better the last year and a half is only because these others I mentioned were not around, and instead replaced by lame excuses of slam contenders like Safina, Jankovic, Dementieva, etc...who can play really well in regular tour events but can never win when it really matters.
How would winning Wimbledon be so magical. The last 2 Wimbledons for women have been so desultory on the womens side some Chinese nobody ranked 133 or something was in the semis in 2008 and Safina who is a joke of a grass court player in the semis this past year. Other than the Williams the current womens field is even more clownish on grass than it is on clay (which is saying something) and Venus will be 30 years old by next years Wimbledon. Dementieva has been the 3rd best grass court player behind the Williams the last 2 years and had match point vs Serena this year. This is Dementieva, someone who isnt in the league of Henin or Clijsters on any surface. Anyway for those predicting 3 of 4 presumably Wimbledon would be the least likely of the 4 anyway.
Serena is a threat of course, but she is extremely vurnerable to quality competition at this point in her career. Whether people want to believe it or not the fact is she has benefited the most from people like Henin, Clijsters, and Sharapova being out of commision these last 2 years. Serena for a 5 yer span won only 2 slams, yet amazingly wins 3 of the last 5. Does anyone really believe this was some grand resurgence of form. No she is still just as out of shape and half commited to tennis at this point. She isnt anywhere near the player she used to be when she was so great and dominant in the early 2000s. The reason she has done better the last year and a half is only because these others I mentioned were not around, and instead replaced by lame excuses of slam contenders like Safina, Jankovic, Dementieva, etc...who can play really well in regular tour events but can never win when it really matters.
Sorry Henin losing to Bartoli in wimbledon and neither grabbing a slam while Venus playing 10 tournaments a year could roll into wimbledon while the two were in their primes and rack up a few wimbledons doesn't make me think they really stand a chance.
Serena is threatened by the competition at this point in her career while the other two are not? Serena who has been playing the tour week in and out the past two years won 3 of 8 slams and been to 4 of the slam finals is threatened by this competition but the two players who have been of the tour are not at all threatened by it? You say I am crazy. Henin at her best only won 3 of the last 5 slams from 03-04 and two of them were won with the absent of the most dominant hardcourt player at the moment..name that player? Closest she came to that was 2006 when she made 7 slam finals out of 8 but only won 3..that was Henin's best. Mind you in 2006 where was Serena Williams? Kim Clijsters was missing in 2008...you had Marion Bartoli in a slam final..It was better than now but not by that much.
Henin's loss to Bartoli was a huge fluke and we both know it. Next time they played Bartoli didnt even win a game and hit 2 winners. Serena lost to Craybas once at Wimbledon and Venus lost to Sprem. Who cares. How you say in their primes is funny, like we cant expect Henin and Clijsters to be in their primes, but we can except Venus and Serena to somehow be when the sisters are on average 2 years older. Venus and Serena are not in their primes now, and they are far more out of theirs than Henin and Clijsters are. Venus will be 30 next year, she is already sucking on all surfaces except grass which she didnt used to do, and you think she will be closer towards her prime than Henin and Clijsters, LOL! What is your point here exactly.
Serena is apparently more threatened by Henin than vice versa for a long time now. If Serena wasnt threatened by Henin why hasnt she won a single slam since Wimbledon 2003 that Henin played? It is not like they havent been in the draw together much. You say Henin won those 2 hard court slams because Serena missed them? Ok then why hasnt Serena proven that by winning a slam with Henin in the draw since then. Am I missing something, were her legs chopped off, wouldnt they still be chopped off in this case?! You want to diminish 2 slams Henin won with Serena out when Serena hasnt taken a slam from Henin since then, yet I suppose Serena whose only 5 slam wins since Wimbledon 2003 were with Henin absent (2) or temporarily retired (the 3 since last 2008 ) gets a free pass, LOL! If anyones slam wins should be diminished they are Serena's more than Justine's.
Henin's game is quite suitable for grass. If she comes back hungry she could take Wimbledon this time.
No wonder this guy was banned; Henin has been a total washout at Wimbledon, with her most telling loss coming at the hands of Bartoli--the latter everyone under the sun mocked for even walking out on court on that memorable day against the allegedly great Henin.
Kim has already proven egn wrong so it should hardly surprise anyone she (along with Henin) will continue to do so:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=252536&highlight=clijsters&page=3
Bump. If only you were not banned to see this. It is amazing to see how 22/28 felt that The Belgians would combine for more than 2 slams this year when not to be at all harsh have only managed one slam final and two QF or better appearances between the two..
What do you mean? davey's still here....:lol:
Just proves that tennis is anything but predictable.
Lol. I mean lambiel, though I do worry that I have given davey a bit more fuel to the fire, but I kind of just remember everyone trashing anyone back in December who said Serena might win 2 slams again next year and the belgians would might only grab 1 at best..
To me it was easy to see. Henin even before her retirement was no longer a dominant force in early 08, it was wishful thinking more than anything to think someone could come from a year break to go back to winning slams left and right, no matter how weak some though the WTA was. Also Clijsters is only a 2 time slam champ for a reason, it was hard to see her turning into a 2 slam a year type of player. I thought Henin would win RG, but even that didn't happen. Now unless Clijsters repeats at the Open, the Belgians will go 0 for the season at the slams.