Umm..Nadal with hes claycourter style is kind a better than Roddick on meedium-slow HC, but i'd give the edge for Roddick in fast HC(USO,Dubai,Washington,Cincy,Montreal).
What about indoors? I think Nadal is actually better indoors than Roddick.
Nadal has actually won Montreal twice.
roddick has won montreal once + twice cincy..
yeah i think i can agree, roddick has reached the final at US open so he may well be better on the fast hcourts. The only problem is that Roddick's results on hcourts over the past two years haven't been very impressive, apart from the semi - final appearence in australia last year.
roddick has won montreal once + twice cincy..
And Nadal has won Indian Wells twice.
Put Roddick on fast hard courts of the 90's or even the early 2000's in this era and Roddick would have a better C.V on hard. Nadal wouldn't have done so well if the surfaces were still fast..
Nadal has actually won Montreal twice.
umm, i dont know..if there is a gap, its kinda a small..
Well Nadal has won in Madrid in 2005 and reached Paris final in 2007. Roddick has reached neither final.
Well that Madrid 05 draw was ridicolous..some 250 events have better draws even.
Lets put it that way - Roddick has 6 Indoor titles, Nadal 1.
Yes, insignificant titles that make 0 difference.
Nadal has a TMS, so > Roddick.
Hmmm, Agassi won Wimbledon, he reached 3 other Semi-finals and one other final, in an era where the grass was actually fast, playing from the back of the court without a big serve. Yes, Agassi is a way better grass courter than Roddick.
What are you going to reply with? "Roddick won several Queens titles"? haha
No way that the bridesmaid will push his way to a Wimbledon crown.
Hmmm, Agassi won Wimbledon, he reached 3 other Semi-finals and one other final, in an era where the grass was actually fast, playing from the back of the court without a big serve. Yes, Agassi is a way better grass courter than Roddick.
What are you going to reply with? "Roddick won several Queens titles"? haha
Don't make me laugh. Agassi's Wimbledon draws were complete jokes. His win at Wimbledon was easily the most favorable draw he could have possibly asked for, and he got the one great grasscourt player that he owned for most of his career.
Roddick has 3 finals, multiple Queens titles, and a SF. He nearly beat Federer in two of those encounters, arguably one of the greatest grasscourt players of all time. If Sampras was standing in Agassi's way in 92 there's no way Agassi even comes close to Wimbledon.
I actually dare you to go to the Former Pros and Players section and attempt to make the argument that Agassi is a better grasscourt player than Roddick. By no means is Agassi a "superior" grasscourt player than Roddick, at worst they are even.
I was embarrassed for you, just reading that, seriously. Wow, anyways.
The grass of the 90's and grass of the 2002 forward is a different surface, Agassi played and was highly successful on a surface that he wasn't suited to. That's why I give him the edge. Becker, Mcenroe and Ivanisevic = three quality grass courters, whether past their best or not.
Roddick can take his Queens titles and dream of winning Wimbledon in the arms of his sad girlfriend.
I was embarrassed for you, just reading that, seriously. Wow, anyways.
The grass of the 90's and grass of the 2002 forward is a different surface, Agassi played and was highly successful on a surface that he wasn't suited to. That's why I give him the edge. Becker, Mcenroe and Ivanisevic = three quality grass courters, whether past their best or not.
Roddick can take his Queens titles and dream of winning Wimbledon in the arms of his sad girlfriend.
Agassi OWNED Becker on EVERY surface, and at EVERY slam.
LOL.
Agassi OWNED Becker on EVERY surface, and at EVERY slam. McEnroe was well past his prime, closing in on his 30s (if not more). We all know how bad Goran chokes. Ask anyone here who actually watches tennis, and they will tell you if Agassi ended up in the bottom half of the draw (basically on that joke half of the draw) Agassi has a 0% of winning Wimbledon that year. He had the benefit of the draw, choking opponents, and a dream year where he played exceptionally well all put together for him to be able to win that Wimbledon.
In fact, I'd say his Wimbledon title is probably one of the luckiest titles ever in the past 2 decades short of Djokovic's Australian Open title. I mean no disrespect to Agassi, but the stars perfectly aligned for him to win that title. He had a mental head case in the final who was notorious for choking, he had an old man McEnroe in the way, and he had his perennial doormat in the semi-finals. Seriously, if I gave Roddick a draw like that he would mow through it so fast it wouldn't even be funny.
Ok, and? You think Roddick wouldn't do better on a faster grass? Are you insane?
Agassi's AO 2003 draw was a joke as well.
what do you think?
It's not that simple. Becker repeatedly shot himself in the foot by trying to beat Agassi from the baseline. Becker has proven he can beat Agassi on the big occasion (1989 Davis Cup, 1989 Masters, 1995 Wimbledon).
Nadal has an AO title.. Roddick doesnt. And he beat Fed in the process to get it.. Whens the last time Roddick beat Roger at a slam? You would put roddick in the final vs Roger in Australian last year and Federer would have demoralized him again
Nadal isnt a great hardcourt player.. But still he takes this. Better than Roddick for sure. Roddick hasnt won a HC masters in what is it? 4 years? Its close... Both have only managed 1 HC slam. But Nadal has accomplished more overrall.. And he is actually getting better. He may actually make a USO final. The last two have been semis appearances.. Not bad at all. While Roddick is wallowing with earlier exits
LOL.
Agassi OWNED Becker on EVERY surface, and at EVERY slam. McEnroe was well past his prime, closing in on his 30s (if not more). We all know how bad Goran chokes. Ask anyone here who actually watches tennis, and they will tell you if Agassi ended up in the bottom half of the draw (basically on that joke half of the draw) Agassi has a 0% of winning Wimbledon that year. He had the benefit of the draw, choking opponents, and a dream year where he played exceptionally well all put together for him to be able to win that Wimbledon.
In fact, I'd say his Wimbledon title is probably one of the luckiest titles ever in the past 2 decades short of Djokovic's Australian Open title. I mean no disrespect to Agassi, but the stars perfectly aligned for him to win that title. He had a mental head case in the final who was notorious for choking, he had an old man McEnroe in the way, and he had his perennial doormat in the semi-finals. Seriously, if I gave Roddick a draw like that he would mow through it so fast it wouldn't even be funny.
Ok, and? You think Roddick wouldn't do better on a faster grass? Are you insane?
Who are you?
I am "The Edberg"
Anyways.... lets theoretically put Roddick and Nadal in a best of 10 matches out of each slam (AO and USO)... And people really think Roddick would win the majority? I doubt that.. Unless its Pre 08 Nadal. But he didnt really hit his peak until 08. You gotta put Prime Roddick vs. Prime Nadal