Will Nadals knees hold up throughout the French Open AND Wimbledon?

Will Nadals knees hold up throughout the French Open AND Wimbledon?

  • Most Likely

    Votes: 36 45.0%
  • I doubt it

    Votes: 18 22.5%
  • It's too hard to tell/it depends

    Votes: 26 32.5%

  • Total voters
    80

gold soundz

Professional
I'm guessing people thought Nadal was physically perfect at the Aus Open but look what happened. It certainly shocked me when he retired against Murray. Lets hope hes ok for these next 2 slams.
 

TheLoneWolf

Banned
He has mentioned recently that he is feeling in good form. I think it's unlikely Rafa will become injured within the next 2 months, but anything can happen. Tennis players are prone to injury. Except Fed, who sold his soul to the Devil a while back.
 

Halba

Hall of Fame
He has mentioned recently that he is feeling in good form. I think it's unlikely Rafa will become injured within the next 2 months, but anything can happen. Tennis players are prone to injury. Except Fed, who sold his soul to the Devil a while back.

no hard court = no injury. all his recent injuries picked up on hard. rotterdam last year and then us open last year, aus open = all hard
 

gold soundz

Professional
no hard court = no injury. all his recent injuries picked up on hard. rotterdam last year and then us open last year, aus open = all hard

what about at the french last year? wasnt that from all those tough matches earlier in the clay court season?
 

TheLoneWolf

Banned
no hard court = no injury. all his recent injuries picked up on hard. rotterdam last year and then us open last year, aus open = all hard
Yeah, I was thinking along those lines too. But you never know. All it takes is a bad move, an overextension, a fall, to hurt yourself.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I hope Saint Rafa's holy knees hold up other wise the results of the slams he gets beaten in will all be invalidated *twisted*
 

gold soundz

Professional
I hope Saint Rafa's holy knees hold up other wise the results of the slams he gets beaten in will all be invalidated *twisted*
yeah same. i think if they do hold up, he'll be unbeatable at the french and could quite possibly win wimbledon again.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
that would depend. if he beats the player X at round 2 with a triple bagel and then loses in the next round to a hot form player, his knees will be busted since the Australian HC season...
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
The problem for Rafa is that he will always have issues with his knees. All it will take is an agressive movement that his knees don't like and he could be out again.

I didn't see exactly when it happend during the Murray AO match, but it did. So even imperceptible movements could take the knees out, and he has problems with BOTH Knees.

If he gets pushed hard, those knees will likely flare up again, but will they be enough to cause him to quit like AO, we'll just have to wait and see. I don't think he wants to take any chances with them though.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
He played 3 masters tournaments and it didn't seem to affect him. So my guess is throwing in 2 more weeks won't hurt him, especially seeing his draw. You might see a lot of goose eggs and straight sets.
 

yellowoctopus

Professional
If he loses, I'm certain they'll be bothering him.

Bull's eye.
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Although, I think the modern HGH can perform miracles, so I think all will be well in Nadal's camp for the next year or so.

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bolo

G.O.A.T.
Good question, but a better question is whether the fed. fanboys/girls nerves will hold up over the next month. ;)
 

Totai

Professional
Good question, but a better question is whether the fed. fanboys/girls nerves will hold up over the next month. ;)

Fed fanboys are fine. They got their FO and their 16 GS.

Nadal's knees are also fine, he just needed time off last year to shoot the Shakira video, and the knees were a good excuse :)
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Not as likely on the clay and grass. Those surfaces are far easier on the knees than hardcourts.

Last year, Nadal injured his knee in the Rotterdam final and it got steadily worse match-on-match after his return.
 
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nikdom

Guest
Not as likely on the clay and grass. Those surfaces are far easier on the knees than hardcourts.

Last year, Nadal injured his knee in the Rotterdam final and it got steadily worse match-on-match after his return.

Interesting. Didn't know Nadal had pinpointed when he got 'injured' last year. Any links?
 
oh absolutely. He just lies and purposely skips tournaments.

yeah, thats why he played 2 exo's before he skipped wimbledon. If he was really injured why did he play those exo's. The guy's a bullsh*tt*er, sorry but i don't buy all this talk about nadal being a genuine guy and all humble and stuff, actions speak louder then words, and it's quite abvious nadal is a fake.
 
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nikdom

Guest
You are right. And last year he didn't even enter to defend his Wimbledon title to make that excuse more believable. :roll:

Who knows? He could've been felt humiliated getting beat by someone he hates and whom he bageled just a few weeks ago. Maybe he wanted to hide under his pillow and cry his heart out for weeks after R.G

He certainly didn't look injured in any of his matches up to and including the defeat to Soderling. In fact, the last match before Sod, if I remember correctly, he beat up on Hewitt pretty handily.
 

CMM

Legend
Davydenko beat Gulbis at Indian Wells in 2 sets and after that he realized that his wrist was broken and that he has to skip a few tournaments, including Roland Garros.
Simon was on a tennis court last weekend to see if his knees are ok, but he realized that he can't compete at RG.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
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nikdom

Guest
Davydenko beat Gulbis at Indian Wells in 2 sets and after that he realized that his wrist was broken and that he has to skip a few tournaments, including Roland Garros.
Simon was on a tennis court last weekend to see if his knees are ok, but he realized that he can't compete at RG.

So why did Nadal compete at R.G if he was injured? If you're on the court, don't make excuses. Or lose and give credit to your opponent. Soderling played very well you know, and got to the finals. So stop plying this injured excuse b.s. He lost, fair and square.
 

edmondsm

Legend
Did you watch that Rotterdam final against Murray?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7891311.stm


Nadal's quote:

"I have been playing with pain on my knees for some months now and I simply can’t go on like this,” wrote Nadal on his website. “The pain was limiting certain movements in my body, which affected me mentally as well"

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-06-11/1566.php

You realize he won Indian Wells, MC, Barcelona, and Rome after that? He also smoked his two opponents in Davis Cup and made the final of Madrid. So let me get this straight; he got injured in Rotterdam and it didn't effect him until 2 months later when he gets beat by Soderling after dominating the tour for those 2 months.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
So why did Nadal compete at R.G if he was injured?

Because it's the French Open, where Nadal was 28-0 at the time. His clay-court form had been great yet again, with tournament wins in Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Rome, with a runner-up finish in Madrid.

If you're on the court, don't make excuses. Or lose and give credit to your opponent. Soderling played very well you know, and got to the finals. So stop plying this injured excuse b.s. He lost, fair and square.

I don't see how beating a player with an injury isn't beating someone fair and square. Tennis is a survival of the fittest. If you play, then your job is to beat your opponent, whatever shape you're both in. If you lose, tough.
 
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nikdom

Guest
Did you watch that Rotterdam final against Murray?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7891311.stm


Nadal's quote:

"I have been playing with pain on my knees for some months now and I simply can’t go on like this. The pain was limiting certain movements in my body, which affected me mentally as well"

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-06-11/1566.php

From the very same article -

Clearly the guy does have knee problems, I’m not saying he doesn’t. But for me some things just don’t add up. If he had been suffering for “some months now” as he says, why play Rome, why play Madrid or a full clay schedule that included Monte Carlo and Barcelona when the real “end goals” are the French Open and Wimbledon?

And where was this “limited” movement he speaks of? The Rafa I watched during the clay season and even in Paris two weeks ago appeared to be moving just fine. I recall some concern during his epic tussle with Novak Djokovic in Madrid where he had some treatment on his knee from a trainer, but did he ever call for on-court medical attention during Paris? I don’t think so.

If Nadal wants to internally rationalize the loss by saying he wasn’t psychically and mentally 100% right, he’s free to do so.

But from what I saw Soderling beat Nadal straight up. Forget the knee and forget the bad pink shirt which I’m guessing will never be seen on the Spaniard ever again. The Swede attacked early and attacked often, keeping Rafa on his heals throughout the match. Soderling even knocked Nadal down on his arse on one occasion in the third set, a scene reminiscent of Mike Tyson deliriously trying to shove his mouthpiece back into his mouth after James Buster Douglas dropped him in Tokyo some 20 years ago. (Note: Tyson never recovered from that loss!)
 
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nikdom

Guest
I don't see how beating a player with an injury isn't beating someone fair and square. Tennis is a survival of the fittest. If you play, then your job is to beat your opponent, whatever shape you're both in. If you lose, tough.

We're in agreement then.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
You realize he won Indian Wells, MC, Barcelona, and Rome after that? He also smoked his two opponents in Davis Cup and made the final of Madrid. So let me get this straight; he got injured in Rotterdam and it didn't effect him until 2 months later when he gets beat by Soderling after dominating the tour for those 2 months.

He got injured in the Rotterdam final against Murray, virtually walking through the final set as he was bagelled. Nadal took a few weeks off before he returned to action in Davis Cup.

Nadal then played Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, Madrid and the French Open. Match-on-match, tournament-on-tournament, the knee pain returned and got worse and worse. That semi final in Madrid against Djokovic was the straw, camel, back moment. He's then as flat as a pancake against Federer in the Madrid final, loses an exhibition to Dabul at Roland Garros, and then plays mediocre at the start of his French Open defence, improving his form briefly before crashing out to Soderling.

Nadal then pulls out of Queens, travels to Wimbledon and plays two exhibitions at Wimbledon against Hewitt and Wawrinka. Hewitt beats Nadal 6-4, 6-3 while Wawrinka beats Nadal 4-6, 7-6, 10-3 (C. Tiebreak). Nadal then concludes that he's in no shape to defend his Wimbledon title and withdraws.
 
Did you watch that Rotterdam final against Murray?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7891311.stm


Nadal's quote:

"I have been playing with pain on my knees for some months now and I simply can’t go on like this. The pain was limiting certain movements in my body, which affected me mentally as well"

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-06-11/1566.php

Sorry mate but thats bullsh*t. Nadal is a first class bullsh*tt*r. When he came to wimbledon last year and had a hit with murray, murray was asked about how rafa was, and murray said he was moving fine and looked all good, yet he skipped wimbledon and made out he was injured, bullsh*t.

Also, when he played roddick this year in miami, i think, he started punching his knee when roddick got a head, to make out to everyone that his knee was the problem, when he really got out played. I mean, come on, the guy is a fake. He comes out all humble in his press conferences, but comes out jumping on the court like a dog, fist pumps, leg ups, the lot. Sorry nadal fan's, your man's a fake.
 

TheLoneWolf

Banned
Who knows? He could've been felt humiliated getting beat by someone he hates and whom he bageled just a few weeks ago. Maybe he wanted to hide under his pillow and cry his heart out for weeks after R.G

He certainly didn't look injured in any of his matches up to and including the defeat to Soderling. In fact, the last match before Sod, if I remember correctly, he beat up on Hewitt pretty handily.
I refuse to believe Rafa just didn't show for Wimbledon because he was a baby about his defeat against Soderling. I wouldn't believe even Fed capable of that sort of behavior, much less Rafa. As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone in the tour would refuse to defend a Wimbledon (or any other slam) championship because of being defeated in another slam.

Nadal has said it many times by now. He's always in pain to one degree or another. He's said in interviews that he believes most elite athletes are in pain most of the time. And injuries are unpredictable. But if you want to speculate I can't prevent you from doing so. I don't have any problem taking Nadal's word for it though, so don't feel offended if I believe his words instead of buying your speculation.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
He certainly didn't look injured in any of his matches up to and including the defeat to Soderling. In fact, the last match before Sod, if I remember correctly, he beat up on Hewitt pretty handily.

You don't understand tendinitis well, do you? Some days, it won't affect you at all.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
He got injured in the Rotterdam final against Murray, virtually walking through the final set as he was bagelled. Nadal took a few weeks off before he returned to action in Davis Cup.

Nadal then played Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, Madrid and the French Open. Match-on-match, tournament-on-tournament, the knee pain returned and got worse and worse. That semi final in Madrid against Djokovic was the straw, camel, back moment. He's then as flat as a pancake against Federer in the Madrid final, loses an exhibition to Dabul at Roland Garros, and then plays mediocre at the start of his French Open defence, improving his form briefly before crashing out to Soderling.

Nadal then pulls out of Queens, travels to Wimbledon and plays two exhibitions at Wimbledon against Hewitt and Wawrinka. Hewitt beats Nadal 6-4, 6-3 while Wawrinka beats Nadal 4-6, 7-6, 10-3 (C. Tiebreak). Nadal then concludes that he's in no shape to defend his Wimbledon title and withdraws.

.....and 4 days into wimbledon he was on a practice court preparing for a davis cup match. Yeah, he was injured. :roll:
 
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