I understand that P1 has been known for their impeccable gripping.
So how do they do it? (overgrip)
Murray is a client of P1 and has his overgrip wrapped in a way that does not make it raised. How is this done too?
but beware, the overgrip isn't the same width as your replacement grip then you won't be able to get smooth touch without a little magic.
I use the narrower TW leather grip and Wilson Pro Overgrip. Because I overlap of the leather grip a LOT less than I overlap the overgrip it actually works out perfectly for me. And I love the thinness of the TW leather grip - really forms to the grip pallet nicely.
I don't like raised ridges on my overgrips either so what I do for my frames is:
- get the thinnest leather grip from TW (TW brand)
- wrap the leather grip so that it barely overlaps (about 1mm) - this then leaves a valley / indent in the overlap area.
- I wrap the overgrip regularly (with normal overlap) but making sure that the overlap falls right in the middle over the leather grip overlap valley.
This gives me a perfectly flat overgrip (no ridges) and also because it's thin leather grip and well wrapped overgrip, the edges of the grip pallet are quite sharp - which I like.
Which TW width is a standard grip size...the 22mm wide grip or the 25mm wide grip? I too use the wilson overgrip, and would like to try this set up for better feel. Just curious on which width on the overgrip would compare to a standard width.
I think the question is how they put on Roger Federer's finishing tape ...
i want to know this too...it seems a perfect finishing tape...unbelivable
I understand that P1 has been known for their impeccable gripping.
So how do they do it? (overgrip)
Murray is a client of P1 and has his overgrip wrapped in a way that does not make it raised. How is this done too?
Which TW width is a standard grip size...the 22mm wide grip or the 25mm wide grip? I too use the wilson overgrip, and would like to try this set up for better feel. Just curious on which width on the overgrip would compare to a standard width.
I believe the 22mm width is more standard.
Step 1: Put on replacement grip
Step 2: Put on overgrip
Step 3: Charge $100 for a $10 job
I don't like raised ridges on my overgrips either so what I do for my frames is:
- get the thinnest leather grip from TW (TW brand)
- wrap the leather grip so that it barely overlaps (about 1mm) - this then leaves a valley / indent in the overlap area.
- I wrap the overgrip regularly (with normal overlap) but making sure that the overlap falls right in the middle over the leather grip overlap valley.
This gives me a perfectly flat overgrip (no ridges) and also because it's thin leather grip and well wrapped overgrip, the edges of the grip pallet are quite sharp - which I like.
Extremely difficult to do.
I attempted this yesterday and ended up with the reverse effect on my handle. Instead of overlaps, I had valleys. Horrible feel. I tried numerous times to match the valleys of the leather with the overlap of the overgrip, and could never get the entire handle to match. I ended up regripping the leather flat without valleys, and placed the overgrip strectching thin.
Since I live in Tampa, I may just go knock on P1's door to get it done
The flush finishing tape wrap procedure has enabled sweet n' sexi Rogi to win so many grand slams.
Master best class finishing tape job.
Ron Yu is a human paint job. Master best class.
ron is true class . love ron.
P1 Sexy string master technicians wrought from the fingertips of God.
Rogi would be nothing without P1 best class Frush™ and Smooth™ over gripping technique.
Roman reaching for master best class but not there yet P1 is GSOAT/GOGOAT/GMSRTOAT. Pure Class.
Hey Joel,
Did you make up that "master class best class" stuff? Cracks me up. I didn't know if there was another source.
Sorry for derailing this thread (albeit, temporarily).
Nah, I perpetuated the Rogi master best class myth and rolled into my own Joycian style of free flowing Rogi poetry master class stoic and fair breasted Mirka watches as Ron wraps Rogi's Pacific X Tac PJ grips into an immortal foamy weapon of war and sexual symmetry love over grips love the way they protect the delicate hands of Rogi master best class love Roger always but particularly loving him alot tonight feeling sensual feeling somewhat groovy feeling the love of Ron and Roman equally tonight actually love a good stringjob master class pure love for Roger.
Wow are you kidding? Seriously, they do every single grip on thousands of rackets the same. Absolutely the same. They start on the same bevel EVERY TIME. They do the same overlap EVERY TIME. They make sure the weight of all grips is the same. They use the same finishing tape every time, they use the same length of it every time. They do the same stretch every time, so that 1000 rackets will all feel absolutely identical when you hold them. As if you haven't changed rackets.
Wow are you kidding? Seriously, they do every single grip on thousands of rackets the same. Absolutely the same. They start on the same bevel EVERY TIME. They do the same overlap EVERY TIME. They make sure the weight of all grips is the same. They use the same finishing tape every time, they use the same length of it every time. They do the same stretch every time, so that 1000 rackets will all feel absolutely identical when you hold them. As if you haven't changed rackets.
what's the method and match(grip/overgrip widths)?
what's the method and match(grip/overgrip widths)?
Which leather grip is closer to the feel and color of the P1?
The former Gamma leather grip? Head finest? TW brand? Tourna?
That’s exactly how I’ve done it for years except you explained it much better than I probably could have!I don't like raised ridges on my overgrips either so what I do for my frames is:
- get the thinnest leather grip from TW (TW brand)
- wrap the leather grip so that it barely overlaps (about 1mm) - this then leaves a valley / indent in the overlap area.
- I wrap the overgrip regularly (with normal overlap) but making sure that the overlap falls right in the middle over the leather grip overlap valley.
This gives me a perfectly flat overgrip (no ridges) and also because it's thin leather grip and well wrapped overgrip, the edges of the grip pallet are quite sharp - which I like.
If you’re going to be using an overgrip it doesn’t really matter which leather grip you use (in my experience). The TW leather grips are perfectly suited to serve as “under”grips in that they are cheaper and come in different widths and thicknesses.Which leather grip is closer to the feel and color of the P1?
The former Gamma leather grip? Head finest? TW brand? Tourna?
I don't like raised ridges on my overgrips either so what I do for my frames is:
- get the thinnest leather grip from TW (TW brand)
- wrap the leather grip so that it barely overlaps (about 1mm) - this then leaves a valley / indent in the overlap area.
- I wrap the overgrip regularly (with normal overlap) but making sure that the overlap falls right in the middle over the leather grip overlap valley.
This gives me a perfectly flat overgrip (no ridges) and also because it's thin leather grip and well wrapped overgrip, the edges of the grip pallet are quite sharp - which I like.
Is that also called Wilson Pro or named some other Wilson grip? Very interesting..If you want to wrap or use the one like Federer or Nishikori use then, use the Wilson overgrip which is made in Japan (more tacky and thicker than normal wilson pro overgrip!).
Is that also called Wilson Pro or named some other Wilson grip? Very interesting..
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