The re-emergence of Del Potro, Rafa to come back fitter and fresher, Federer still weaving magic, Murray the hard court specialist, is Novak's run a streak of form or the announcement of his true self's arrival? How long can he hold on to the ranking and how can it be wrested from him? And by who?
How long will Novak's reign as world no.1 last?
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Roger says he will catch him by year end.
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The interesting thing is, it is not going to be easy for Nadal to take it back either. He has been outright the second best player this year. He has US Open to defend, finals of WTF, then after the AO, he has all those finals, and wins pretty much from IW to Wimbledon, so he will need to repeat or better his performance to gain ground, while hoping Novak gets injured or just goes off the boil completely.
Next year should be very interesting...
Next year should be very interesting...
Is it possible that Novak will go off the boil? His team has managed him very well this year, pulling him out of a coupla tournies to keep him fresh.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Ha ha no chance of that but he seems in a good position to finish 2011 as #1 at least.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
He could break Pete's record of consecutive years at #1. I think he finally surrenders the #1 in 2018.
Thing is, he can have dips and still be #1, it won't need a 2011 like season, with rest of the ATP not doing anything much.
Thing is, he can have dips and still be #1, it won't need a 2011 like season, with rest of the ATP not doing anything much.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
I am wondering how many slams Nole will win in a row. Should be interesting.
Roger who ?
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Hard to say. Rafa doesnt look like he yet has the tools to undo Nole.
But that can change if Rafa finds a better way of handling the lopy high balls to his backhand, there he gets into trouble by forfeiting ground.
IMO Nole will be in the top 3 for the next 3-4 years if he is healthy
But that can change if Rafa finds a better way of handling the lopy high balls to his backhand, there he gets into trouble by forfeiting ground.
IMO Nole will be in the top 3 for the next 3-4 years if he is healthy
SuperPhong
Rookie
A couple of months? Unless he tanks the rest of the Tennis season I don't see how you can say that he has a couple of months (2 months) at #1, he'll be #1 for the rest of the year
Raistlin
Rookie
Roger G.O.A.T., you know the grandpa who delivered Djokovic his only loss on his least favorite surface
omniexist
Semi-Pro
Huh? I think Roger has a better chance against Joker than Rafa....:/
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
until EOY 2014...
No one to challenge him. Fedal are cooked. Murray hasn't lived up to his potential. Delpo is always injured.
So it has to be one of Dmitrov, Tomic, Dolgopolov, Harrison, Raonic etc. These guys won't become a force (if they ever do) until 2-3 yrs IMO.
No one to challenge him. Fedal are cooked. Murray hasn't lived up to his potential. Delpo is always injured.
So it has to be one of Dmitrov, Tomic, Dolgopolov, Harrison, Raonic etc. These guys won't become a force (if they ever do) until 2-3 yrs IMO.
Marius_Hancu
Talk Tennis Guru
1-2 years total
Cosmic_Colin
Professional
Djokovic has improved significantly this year, and some people are assuming he'll go on to win 10+ grand slams and spend years as #1. The way I see it he could just as easily drop back down to his previous level. There's just no way to tell if he can continue as he is now.
He should at least finish 2011 as number 1 though.
He should at least finish 2011 as number 1 though.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
It's really up to Djokovic. One thing is for sure, he probably won't be undefeated until the FO next year though.
Murrayfan31
Hall of Fame
4 more years if he is healthy.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Why not? Who's gonna beat him? He's best on slow hards.
Clarky21
Banned
Exactly. There is no competition for him so he is going to dominate like crazy. He's going to be number 1 for at least a few years I think.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Not with all the points to defend next year.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I agree with what you're saying but at the same time, no one is going to go two years straight undefeated until the semifinals at the FO. He's bound to have a few off days. Rafa will probably sneak one out on clay, if someone doesn't get him before then.
Clarky21
Banned
Rafa ain't beating Novak anywhere anymore much less on clay. Novak decidedly won those two clay finals without really breaking a sweat,and Rafa has declined so much that what used to be his best surface has now become his worst. It would take a monumental performance from Rafa to take down Novak right now,and I just can't see him doing it.
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
I don't really get this argument. Djokovic is the first player since McEnroe in 1984 to have this kind of run. It's very unlikely someone else will come along and repeat this, which is what will have to happen for someone to knock him off the top.
It's far more likely that he'll defend most of them and the rest will be divided amongst multiple players.
PSNELKE
Legend
Stop spamming dude, as much as you´re repeating it, you still sound like a fool, and people still wont believe you.
Oldman Fed beat him on Oldman Fed´s worst surface, prime Fed would have breadsticked him then.
As for Ralph, he lacks confidence against Novak and that´s it, that clown has to remember who he is and what he is capable to do, start to hit the pill with more authority and stay focused instead of falling apart.
PSNELKE
Legend
I dont get this argument man, do you seriously think he will paly for this for the rest of his career or what??
Seriously dude, look at Ralph he isn´t playing his 2010 form, that´s quite something normal.
I´m not saying he´ll totally fall apart next year, but he definately wont repeat that.
Clarky21
Banned
I'm not spamming and I'm not a dude. Federer has always given Novak trouble because he has an all court game that drives Novak crazy. Nadal does not have that. Topspin forehands to Novak's backhand is all Nadal seems capable of doing and we all see how that has turned out for him.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree.The thing is grass was the best surface for Nadal to beat Djokovic. Why? Because the low bounce of grass takes away Djokovic's biggest weapon against Nadal a.k.a the cross court backhand. He terrorized Rafa using this in the clay court season as he hit winner after winner from his cc backhand on Nadal's short balls. But it's much harder to take the ball on the rise (on the backhand) on grass since the bounce is much lower.
Right now the matchup issue has also become mental, because Nadal played crap in the Wimb final compared to his level in the rest of the tournament. Djokovic played far better in Rome 2011 even, compared to the Wimb final, where as Nadal played worse. Had Djoko played at his Rome 2011 F level, the match could have been a beatdown.
The fact that Nadal could not even beat Djoko on grass, tells me that Nadal has little chance on hardcourts or clay unless he makes some big tactical changes and/or improvements..
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Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
I didn't say he would, I said he could be World #1 until the beginning of 2013. That's not a career, that's a year and a half (from now).
Unless somebody goes on a similar run to the one he's had this year, he won't have to.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Yes, you have to play the 8 best players, not some qualifiers and weekend warriors.
Cosmic_Colin
Professional
It can be worth 1500, but that's only if you win the tournament undefeated. The scoring structure is:
3 x round robin matches = 200 pts for win
semifinals = 400 pts for win
finals = 500 pts for win
Last year Roger won it undefeated, giving him the full 1500 points, but that isn't necessarily how it would usually go. From Wikipedia - Players who won the tournament undefeated (since 1990):
Michael Stich, Germany, 1993
Lleyton Hewitt, Australia, 2001
Roger Federer, Switzerland, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2010
So in other years the winner will have lost at least one of the round robin matches and finished with max 1300 points.
Nadal reached the 2010 final undefeated so is defending 1000 points
Djokovic and Murray each won 2 round robins, then lost in the semis (no points for losing) so they're both defending 400 points.
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