Del Potro's Meteoric Rise in the Rankings
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Love Game
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Good info, Ico
... so the vigil continues ...Fish out of Basel 1st Rnd = 0 points
Berdych out of Basel 1st Rnd = 0 points
Tipsy out of Basel 1st Rnd = 0 points
Almagro out of Valencia 1st Rnd = 0 points
Simon out of Valencia 1st Rnd = 0 points
Delpo thru to 2nd Rnd Valencia = +45 points
Monfils thru to QF Valencia = +90 points
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Delpo is scheduled to play 2nd Rnd tomorrow, thursday evening, versus K.Anderson (Del beat And last week in Vienna, but it was a 3-set battle). I'm guessing the result w/b the same tomorrow ... that match really took a lot out of delpo in vienna, so it would be nice if he could win in straights tomorrow . . .
Love Game
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About to start in Valencia ... s/b a close one
http://www.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html
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If Del wins, he w/b into the QF with 90 points ... vamos Delpo!
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edit: NVM ... false advertising ... apparently the ATP packed up its cameras and went home! :evil:
http://www.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html
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If Del wins, he w/b into the QF with 90 points ... vamos Delpo!
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edit: NVM ... false advertising ... apparently the ATP packed up its cameras and went home! :evil:
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Homeboy Hotel
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Almagro/Tipsarevic both say they need to reach Paris final to stand a chance to qualify for the World Tour Finals yet Del Potro who is beneath both players says he's "looking to climb" - is this cos he still stands a chance to be in London because he's playing Valencia?
Love Game
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I wish I knew ... i was kinda hoping that either you or Ico might give us a clue ... i'm going slowly match by match, but i don't know what formula to apply to find out what needs to eventually happen
Homeboy Hotel
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I wish I knew ... i was kinda hoping that either you or Ico might give us a clue ... i'm going slowly match by match, but i don't know what formula to apply to find out what needs to eventually happen
Actually, I do believe I have something here. The World Tour Finals 'qualifications cut' (Qualification Cut: any player with more points than the cut is qualified for the ATP World Tour Finals)
Currently, the cut is at 3325 - anyone with points above that is qualified for London. That numbers is reduced as the tournaments go by. DelPo currently is sitting on a very strong 2270 so far.
So behind Ferrer who last qualified, Tsonga/Fish/Berdych/Tipsarevic/Almagro are all in Delpo's way - but have all lost in the last week. So Del Potro has to take advantage of this week with his competitors all at a loss.
Check here - http://live-tennis.eu/race
Love Game
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thanks, Homeboy Hotel ... so there's still some hope, not mathematically impossible yet ... good link!
K so Delpo makes it to the QF by doing the hat trick on robby koenig's countryman, K.Anderson ... next challenge w/b to face the vanquisher of tsonga, namely, American Sam Querrey! :shock:
ruerooo
Legend
thanks, Homeboy Hotel ... so there's still some hope, not mathematically impossible yet ... good link!
K so Delpo makes it to the QF by doing the hat trick on robby koenig's countryman, K.Anderson ... next challenge w/b to face the vanquisher of tsonga, namely, American Sam Querrey! :shock:
So am I doing the math right? Would DelPo have to gain 1055 points?
Or does it get into that thing where people have points added and taken away and I get confused ...?
dcdoorknob
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http://live-tennis.eu/race
If Delpo makes the finals he moves ahead of Tipsy and Almagro into 9th in the race, but only just. In that case he would also need at least the finals in Bercy to move into the top 8 (and need at least one of Tsonga/Fish/Berdich to lose early), much the same as Tipsy and Almagro.
If he wins the tournament, he'll still be 9th but will only be like 260 points behind Berdych, 285 behind fish, so a SF finish in Bercy might well be enough for him to qualify, depending on how those ahead of him do.
If Delpo makes the finals he moves ahead of Tipsy and Almagro into 9th in the race, but only just. In that case he would also need at least the finals in Bercy to move into the top 8 (and need at least one of Tsonga/Fish/Berdich to lose early), much the same as Tipsy and Almagro.
If he wins the tournament, he'll still be 9th but will only be like 260 points behind Berdych, 285 behind fish, so a SF finish in Bercy might well be enough for him to qualify, depending on how those ahead of him do.
Talker
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True, his form is good but it isn't 'that' good.
He seems happy to put the ball back near the court center (playing safe) and that isn't the kind of play that will take him too far.
Another problem is that he seems a little sluggish, I haven't seen him rush the short ball hard and put it away with conviction.
I'm looking for these signs all the time but few have shown up since early this year.
Love Game
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Not sure about that, rueroo ... i stil have some questions bout bercy/paris points to figure out ... today one of the commies said that if he wins his qf v querrey today, he'll move into the #10 spot in the race to london ........ and he's currently up a double break in the first set, 4-0
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vernonbc
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Not sure about that, rueroo ... i stil have some questions bout bercy/paris points to figure out ... today one of the commies said that if he wins his qf v querrey today, he'll move into the #10 spot in the race to london ........ and he's currently up a double break in the first set, 4-0
Check out this web site Love Game. It has up to the minute rankings and the right hand columns tell you what the player's points will be if he wins the next match and/or what their maximum points would be if they won the tournament. Best tennis site on the web.
http://live-tennis.eu/race
Love Game
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thx, vernonbc ... I was curious who, of the players vying for the top eight, has points to defend at Paris/Bercy, since that's the last chance for them to improve their standings after Basel and Valencia:
Monfils defending ... 600
Berdych defending ... 90
Tsonga defending .... 0
Fish defending ...... 0
Tipsy defending ..... 0
delPotro defending .. 0
chrischris
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Talker
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If Del Potro can win tomorrow the race standings will look like this.
6 Jo Wilfried Tsonga FRA ----3040
7 Mardy Fish USA ------------2965
8 Tomas Berdych CZE --------2940
9 Juan Martin Del Potro ARG 2480
10 Janko Tipsarevic SRB -----2395
11 Nicolas Almagro ESP ------2370
Today I noticed a little bit of spark from Juan, it looks like he's getting back to himself.
If he takes the title:
6 Jo Wilfried Tsonga FRA ----3040
7 Mardy Fish USA ------------2965
8 Tomas Berdych CZE --------2940
9 Juan Martin Del Potro ARG 2680 (260 out of 8th place)
10 Janko Tipsarevic SRB -----2395
11 Nicolas Almagro ESP ------2370
And can also get in by someone withdrawing.
6 Jo Wilfried Tsonga FRA ----3040
7 Mardy Fish USA ------------2965
8 Tomas Berdych CZE --------2940
9 Juan Martin Del Potro ARG 2480
10 Janko Tipsarevic SRB -----2395
11 Nicolas Almagro ESP ------2370
Today I noticed a little bit of spark from Juan, it looks like he's getting back to himself.
If he takes the title:
6 Jo Wilfried Tsonga FRA ----3040
7 Mardy Fish USA ------------2965
8 Tomas Berdych CZE --------2940
9 Juan Martin Del Potro ARG 2680 (260 out of 8th place)
10 Janko Tipsarevic SRB -----2395
11 Nicolas Almagro ESP ------2370
And can also get in by someone withdrawing.
vernonbc
Legend
Points to defend don't matter in 'The Race'. The top 8 will be the ones who have accumulated the most points during the current year, period. Defending points matters in the ATP rankings but even then, ATP rankings and Race rankings will be the same at the end of the year as all the results from the previous year will have dropped off.
Del Potro is finished. He will never win another Slam in his life.
He's done nothing even remotely impressive in 2 years and he's injury prone. Another Safin on our hands.
Finishing 2011 in the top 10 (which looks very possible) from where he started this year is very impressive. He's a shoe-in for comeback of the year.
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Homeboy Hotel
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I presume Del Potro needs to rely strongly on the other top 3 guys infront of him to fail strongly at Paris for him to be in London?
Love Game
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including the results from paris/bercy 2010? :?:
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delpo's semifinal match against granollers is the first singles match today ... starts in a little over two hours. granny's been tough this week, knocking off dolgopolov, cilic, and monfils ...
All-rounder
Legend
Such fail in this post. So Delpo wins 3 straight sets matches in a row and makes another SF run consecutively and now he's done? Do you even watch the matches or just wake up and feel like trolling?Del Potro is finished. He will never win another Slam in his life.
He's done nothing even remotely impressive in 2 years and he's injury prone. Another Safin on our hands.
Talker
Hall of Fame
He needs some help unless he goes all the way.
Making top ten is very good for him but I always want more.
vernonbc
Legend
Yup, and the results from last year's WTF will fall off the same week. I think maybe you're confusing ATP rankings with 'The Race'. The results from Paris 2010 will have an effect on when or if JMDP gets to the Top 10 but it's only results from 2011 tournaments that count towards the total that will or will not get him into this year's WTF.
But, as I noted, it will all be a moot point because once Paris and WTF 2010 points fall off in a couple of weeks, there will be nothing left from 2010 counting in anybody's point totals.
Homeboy Hotel
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Del Potro out (for now). Berdych in.
Berdych qualifies for London - two more spots left. I'm pretty sure Tsonga will take the other, but will it be Fish or Del Potro?
Berdych qualifies for London - two more spots left. I'm pretty sure Tsonga will take the other, but will it be Fish or Del Potro?
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NadalAgassi
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Del Potro would have to win Paris to qualify for the WTF. Fat chance of that happening. Pretty safe to say the final spots are Berdych, Fish, and Tsonga. Almagro, Tipsarevic, or Simon would probably also have to win Paris to make it.
Homeboy Hotel
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Yeah, afraid so now.
Even when top 8 qualify, there are always two alternates that make the trip over. However I have heard somewhere that Del Potro said to Argentina media that he wouldn't go to London as an alternate.
Love Game
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yes, the trainer advised him to retire if he was still having pain.
BUT
"aint even playing in Paris" ... link please
Homeboy Hotel
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How it stands.
Once we get an updated 'qualifications cut' number, then this table should make more sense.
Once we get an updated 'qualifications cut' number, then this table should make more sense.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/11/45/Paris-Del-Potro-Withdraws.aspx DelPo out of paris as i said
Talker
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Not happy to hear this news but it at least explains his play in his last loss.
I guess it'll be some time before he gets his game together then.
Homeboy Hotel
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I guess it'll be some time before he gets his game together then.
It depends. Delpo's desire to rise to the absolute top of the men's game is kind of like telling a boy to do his homework.
For Delpo, the season is over for him. He's got roughly 12 weeks from here till the Australian Open to do how he pleases, obviously he has to rest this injury a little but if he really has the burning desire to get right back to the top then he has to pencil in some sorta training bootcamp over the winter to get extra fit, healthy and to prepare his 2012 assault back to the top.
If he just takes on a 'Verdasco the fiasco' attitude of taking a bit of a backseat and expecting good thing to come to him, then it's just not gonna happen.
+1, yes, I'm sure he would have played it, but he wasn't going to kill himself to do it. I'm sure if you'd have said to him at the beginning of the year, at the end you will be #10, he'd have said great. If he remains healthy he should continue his rise up the ranks next year.
Is there any chance Juan Martin could win enough points in december davis cup to rise one more level to No. 10?
Yeah, I know ... don't be greedy, right? ... but does anybody know? :?:
I believe if he wins his matches he could pull ahead of Almagro, assuming Almagro doesn't play/win, but I'm not positive.
ruerooo
Legend
You know, I think it depends more than I'd like on how Mardy and Tomas continue to perform as well. I think once you get to a certain point, hovering around Top Ten and above, it's as much about your opponents' performance against you and others at that level as it is about your own.
PrinceMoron
Legend
Don't want to worry you, as an obvious fan, but meteors never rise, they just crash and burn.
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