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TheOneHander

Professional
TheOneHander, what exactly is BHBR? Sorry, I'm a bit green with the terms.

Was going to try Volkl Cyclone 18 in it.


Yep, BHBR is Big Hitter Blue Rough (thanks klem!) I switched to this frame because of elbow issues, but it lets me play full poly with no pain. BHBR 17 is my go-to string though because it's relatively easy on the arm while giving an absolute ton of spin. While the tension maintenance is average (around 8-10 hours per setup for me), the playability make it worth it. Not to mention that it's cheap and easy to string, too ;)

I will sign up for ze club!

18x16, Big Banger Alu Power @ 53lbs.

Best racquet ever.

love my new racquet!!

Great! You're both listed in the roster on page 8. What do you two enjoy about it?
 

asifallasleep

Hall of Fame
TheOneHander, what exactly is BHBR? Sorry, I'm a bit green with the terms.

Was going to try Volkl Cyclone 18 in it.

I use Volkl Cyclone 17 in a lot of my other frames and love it. Just had it put in my EXO Tours for the first time today and am gonna try it out tomorrow. I went to my usual tension of 48 that i use in my other frames. Both Tours were strung at 57 by previous owner.
I may go back to my K90's as I can't seem to rid myself of them but the Tours are fun.
 
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TheOneHander

Professional
EXO3 Tour 16x18 Review

I thought I'd try my hand at a full-length review. Here it is!

Why I switched:

I bought my first Tour because my beloved ASGTs were not being kind to my elbow. I really wanted to keep them and use the Tour for when my arm began misbehaving, but after the first hitting session with this frame, I was totally hooked. After a solid month of playtesting, I bought another Tour and made my switch official. Here's why:

Aesthetics/Comfort in hand: 8/10

When I first bought the frame, I really liked the paintjob. It's a really smooth, simple look. The paint and the chrome are a bit fragile though, but I'm not too stingy about the damage done to my frames anyways. The stock grip is also very comfortable (I use it under an overgrip)-it's not too thick and spongy but has enough cushion for my hands. The handle shape is also very round, and it fits in my hand perfectly. I don't have any problems with switching from bevel to bevel at all, and it actually prevents blisters for me.

Overall, I gave this category an 8/10 just because the paint quality didn't blow me away, but that's not going to stop me for using such a fantastic frame ;)

Stringing: 9/10

I thought I'd throw in this section for those of you who have your own machines. Stringing this racquet really isn't bad with a boomerang tool (which is highly recommended-I use the orange one). It's a bit odd because the mains start in the head and the tie offs are also in the head, but the very open pattern makes it a breeze to string.

Groundstrokes: 10/10

Just a little bit about my forehand: my grip is in between a semiwestern and a full western just because my pinky hangs off the buttcap. I hit a lot of spin but like to flatten out my shots every now and then. My backhand is similar, but I'm more willing to hit it flatter more often. I use a eastern backhand bottom hand and a semiwestern top hand.

This racquet really does it all for me. Flat shots, spinny loopers, and aggressive topspin groundies are all there. This frame really excels in heavy spin. You can literally feel the strings sink into the ball. This allows me a lot of control in terms of placement, as the racquet is already fairly low powered. When that factor is considered with the extra spin in mind, it basically means that I can manipulate the ball either through the racquet's inherent control or by using the extra spin provided. almost as if I can pick a spot on the court and the ball will land exactly there, every time. That being said, though, there's still some extra power with this racquet, so it's not like swinging a 2x4. This makes short angle shots and passes a blast, as well as aggressive flat shots. That's another thing about this frame-it may not have the raw flat ball capability of say, my previous Rebels, but it holds its own quite well for being such an open stick.

Slice with this racquet surprised me. Balls stay very low, and sidespin shots really break. I can make them float or skid at willQ and I have loads of control over the type and amount of slice I want to hit with this frame. It's truly a joy to hit slices with this racquet!

I've already sort of mentioned this, but defensive shots with this frame are great. The headsize and shape allows me to take a violent cut at the ball without fear of shanking, so passes and running shots go in a lot more. It makes being a grinder like myself a lot of fun! I also have to reemphasize the bit about shanking-I think you have to consciously try to mishit with this racquet. It's so forgiving and the head shape is very friendly, which has disposed of those pesky "big-moment shanks" that plague me from time to time.

Volleys: 9/10

I wash't really expecting much from this frame up at net, but it really impressed me. The soft flex allows for all of the control I could possibly need while also providing for some of the most responsive feel I've ever had up at net. I can either punch a volley deep, feather it with a short angle, or knife it sharply with ease-the racquet makes volleying incredibly simple. While it doesn't have the bullying weight of other frames and therefore may lack some solidity when playing big hitters (which is why it's not completely perfect), its mass is more than adequate and also allows for this frame to be lightning fast up at net.

Feel/Comfort on Impact: 10/10

My first hitting session with this racquet was somewhat bizarre in that the feel was a so much different from my previous frames. It's soft, comfortable, and the flex and muted response are simply a joy. I may just be someone who enjoys the feedback of these frames, but they're just so plush and flexible. I don't have a problem with losing the ball in the stringbed, and even the worst of shanks don't jar at all. The best part is that I haven't had any elbow pain after switching to this frame. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Even strung with a soft multi, my ASGTs gave me pain after an hour or so, but I can play for as long as I'd like with the Tours-even with full poly. Comfort is top notch.

Serves: 10/10

These took me a while. At first, my kickers had huge spin and no pace, leaving me with fluff balls. After about a week of steady play, my serve returned to normal and now I have no problem getting even heavier, pacier balls on serve than I did with my previous racquet. Directional control isn't an outstanding quality of this frame, but it definitely isn't lacking. That being said, there isn't an excess of free power either, which allows me to really go after my serves. Having the extra topspin on seconds also allows me to mix up the height of my kickers before the bounce, which is actually really exciting! The bottom line is, that after an adjustment period, this racquet really does it all on serve-and it does it well.

Returns: 10/10

Returns are so much fun to hit with this racquet. The racquet's solidity and quickness through the air make returns a breeze.it also gives me a good chunk of time to set up and really get on top of my returns. Chips are well controlled, and the racquet doesn't flutter. Punch returns are my favorite, as I can really get a lot of juice on the ball without there being a lack of control. For whatever reason, returns just always seem to go in!

Overall, this is a fantastic racquet. It does everything so well and accentuates the strengths in my game (spin, defense) while bringing up my weaknesses (serve, volleys). So my top three pros and cons would be...

Pros:

1) Very high spin potential
2) Forgiveness/feel
3) Comfort

Cons:

1) Paint is a little fragile
2) Stringing takes a bit of time to adjust to
3) I don't have enough of them ;)
 

TheOneHander

Professional
Thanks! I had been digging around the Racquetaholics thread for some information on good, elbow-friendly sticks and I read most everything from the start of the 7g mini-explosion onwards. I saw where you had recommended the Tour, which seemed like the perfect choice for me, as I'm not a flat hitter at all. Those posts convinced me to risk buying the frame, and I'm very glad I did!

Just for reference, my review is written on the Tour with full BHBR 17 at 52lbs. I might go down to 48 or so, but 52 feels so nice when you first pull it off the stringer. I use the BHBR as my go-to for a couple of reasons:

1) It's pretty inexpensive, and I restring after every 8 hours of play anyways. The price works out pretty well.
2) It's very arm friendly and soft for a poly. I get all the benefits of a regular poly with enhanced comfort.
3) Spin spin spin! The RPMs are great with this setup.

If I could-and I might-I'd buy some TB 18 and string it at probably 54lbs. I could definitely feel the difference in gauge between the 17g TB and the BHBR 17, which is actually closer to 18g. I actually got more spin and power with the TB at the expense of less consistency and a longer break-in period, but I really enjoyed the heavy ball I could hit with that setup. Still, though, BHBR is the string to beat for price to performance ratio.
 

louis19

New User
I thought I'd try my hand at a full-length review. Here it is!

Why I switched:

I bought my first Tour because my beloved ASGTs were not being kind to my elbow. I really wanted to keep them and use the Tour for when my arm began misbehaving, but after the first hitting session with this frame, I was totally hooked. After a solid month of playtesting, I bought another Tour and made my switch official. Here's why:

Aesthetics/Comfort in hand: 8/10

When I first bought the frame, I really liked the paintjob. It's a really smooth, simple look. The paint and the chrome are a bit fragile though, but I'm not too stingy about the damage done to my frames anyways. The stock grip is also very comfortable (I use it under an overgrip)-it's not too thick and spongy but has enough cushion for my hands. The handle shape is also very round, and it fits in my hand perfectly. I don't have any problems with switching from bevel to bevel at all, and it actually prevents blisters for me.

Overall, I gave this category an 8/10 just because the paint quality didn't blow me away, but that's not going to stop me for using such a fantastic frame ;)

Stringing: 9/10

I thought I'd throw in this section for those of you who have your own machines. Stringing this racquet really isn't bad with a boomerang tool (which is highly recommended-I use the orange one). It's a bit odd because the mains start in the head and the tie offs are also in the head, but the very open pattern makes it a breeze to string.

Groundstrokes: 10/10

Just a little bit about my forehand: my grip is in between a semiwestern and a full western just because my pinky hangs off the buttcap. I hit a lot of spin but like to flatten out my shots every now and then. My backhand is similar, but I'm more willing to hit it flatter more often. I use a eastern backhand bottom hand and a semiwestern top hand.

This racquet really does it all for me. Flat shots, spinny loopers, and aggressive topspin groundies are all there. This frame really excels in heavy spin. You can literally feel the strings sink into the ball. This allows me a lot of control in terms of placement, as the racquet is already fairly low powered. When that factor is considered with the extra spin in mind, it basically means that I can manipulate the ball either through the racquet's inherent control or by using the extra spin provided. almost as if I can pick a spot on the court and the ball will land exactly there, every time. That being said, though, there's still some extra power with this racquet, so it's not like swinging a 2x4. This makes short angle shots and passes a blast, as well as aggressive flat shots. That's another thing about this frame-it may not have the raw flat ball capability of say, my previous Rebels, but it holds its own quite well for being such an open stick.

Slice with this racquet surprised me. Balls stay very low, and sidespin shots really break. I can make them float or skid at willQ and I have loads of control over the type and amount of slice I want to hit with this frame. It's truly a joy to hit slices with this racquet!

I've already sort of mentioned this, but defensive shots with this frame are great. The headsize and shape allows me to take a violent cut at the ball without fear of shanking, so passes and running shots go in a lot more. It makes being a grinder like myself a lot of fun! I also have to reemphasize the bit about shanking-I think you have to consciously try to mishit with this racquet. It's so forgiving and the head shape is very friendly, which has disposed of those pesky "big-moment shanks" that plague me from time to time.

Volleys: 9/10

I wash't really expecting much from this frame up at net, but it really impressed me. The soft flex allows for all of the control I could possibly need while also providing for some of the most responsive feel I've ever had up at net. I can either punch a volley deep, feather it with a short angle, or knife it sharply with ease-the racquet makes volleying incredibly simple. While it doesn't have the bullying weight of other frames and therefore may lack some solidity when playing big hitters (which is why it's not completely perfect), its mass is more than adequate and also allows for this frame to be lightning fast up at net.

Feel/Comfort on Impact: 10/10

My first hitting session with this racquet was somewhat bizarre in that the feel was a so much different from my previous frames. It's soft, comfortable, and the flex and muted response are simply a joy. I may just be someone who enjoys the feedback of these frames, but they're just so plush and flexible. I don't have a problem with losing the ball in the stringbed, and even the worst of shanks don't jar at all. The best part is that I haven't had any elbow pain after switching to this frame. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Even strung with a soft multi, my ASGTs gave me pain after an hour or so, but I can play for as long as I'd like with the Tours-even with full poly. Comfort is top notch.

Serves: 10/10

These took me a while. At first, my kickers had huge spin and no pace, leaving me with fluff balls. After about a week of steady play, my serve returned to normal and now I have no problem getting even heavier, pacier balls on serve than I did with my previous racquet. Directional control isn't an outstanding quality of this frame, but it definitely isn't lacking. That being said, there isn't an excess of free power either, which allows me to really go after my serves. Having the extra topspin on seconds also allows me to mix up the height of my kickers before the bounce, which is actually really exciting! The bottom line is, that after an adjustment period, this racquet really does it all on serve-and it does it well.

Returns: 10/10

Returns are so much fun to hit with this racquet. The racquet's solidity and quickness through the air make returns a breeze.it also gives me a good chunk of time to set up and really get on top of my returns. Chips are well controlled, and the racquet doesn't flutter. Punch returns are my favorite, as I can really get a lot of juice on the ball without there being a lack of control. For whatever reason, returns just always seem to go in!

Overall, this is a fantastic racquet. It does everything so well and accentuates the strengths in my game (spin, defense) while bringing up my weaknesses (serve, volleys). So my top three pros and cons would be...

Pros:

1) Very high spin potential
2) Forgiveness/feel
3) Comfort

Cons:

1) Paint is a little fragile
2) Stringing takes a bit of time to adjust to
3) I don't have enough of them ;)

Awesome review mate. Well done ;)
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
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Serves: 10/10

These took me a while. At first, my kickers had huge spin and no pace, leaving me with fluff balls. After about a week of steady play, my serve returned to normal and now I have no problem getting even heavier, pacier balls on serve than I did with my previous racquet. Directional control isn't an outstanding quality of this frame, but it definitely isn't lacking. That being said, there isn't an excess of free power either, which allows me to really go after my serves. Having the extra topspin on seconds also allows me to mix up the height of my kickers before the bounce, which is actually really exciting! The bottom line is, that after an adjustment period, this racquet really does it all on serve-and it does it well.

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Most of your review makes sense...except on the serve part. Is it really ideal to "go for your serves" ? Sounds very much like muscling the serve to me...
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
Most of your review makes sense...except on the serve part. Is it really ideal to "go for your serves" ? Sounds very much like muscling the serve to me...

From my experience with the EX03 tour - its not a stick you can muscle to great effect. A smooth swing - serve or ground stroke is rewarded. Try and force anything and you just don't get the same result.

Really going for a serve may be a little misleading; to me its all about timing and weight transferral not about muscling it. Get it right and you can hit booming serves; get it wrong and it can be painful to watch.
 

TheOneHander

Professional
Yes I am going to try some in the EXO. I currently use Big Hitter Silver Rough and love it.

What gauge do you use? I'd be really interested in a comparative review.
Awesome review mate. Well done ;)

Thank you! I wanted to be sure I had really explained what the frame can do, sl the tail may be a little thick at parts.

Most of your review makes sense...except on the serve part. Is it really ideal to "go for your serves" ? Sounds very much like muscling the serve to me...

No, going for my serves means nothing similar to muscling the ball. It means being able to tag my serves with impunity, and to be able to do whatever I want to with the ball. The lower power lets me use a full swing and not have to hold back or just resort to kicking serves in. I used to hit 100% topspin serves because I never had the confidence to be able to consistently make a flatter first serve, but this frame gives me the ability to know that my serves will more often than not go in.

From my experience with the EXO3 tour - its not a stick you can muscle to great effect. A smooth swing - serve or ground stroke is rewarded. Try and force anything and you just don't get the same result.

Really going for a serve may be a little misleading; to me its all about timing and weight transferral not about muscling it. Get it right and you can hit booming serves; get it wrong and it can be painful to watch.

I agree wholeheartedly with this post. The phrase I used just means that I can hit my best serves on a consistent basis without having to restrain myself, no matter what kind of spin. I'd also like to point out that it's the O3 line, not the 03, as seen in the "Ozone" line of frames (the formula of which is O3). Not trying to pick at you, but it's just something I've seen a lot and I wanted to point it out :)
 
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Power Player

Bionic Poster
I use 17 gauge and 16 gauge syn gut in the cross.

Agree on the serve. Loose arm and relaxed swing gets me the same power as any other racquet I have served with. The difference is the spin level.

I believe this is a very good racquet for people that miss long on serve and struggle with double faults.
 

TheOneHander

Professional
Interesting. I use 17g BHBR and I'm very hesitant to try another hybrid, as I feel that I get all of the spin of a full poly job with a much softer feel. However, my experiences have shown that I get absolutely zero pop out of a hybrid, so they tend to sit up for my opponents to crush. I may try a hybrid of BHBR 17 and OGSM 16 (which is my favorite syn gut) when my third Tour gets in and try 44/48 to see how the power level works out.
 

Ross K

Legend
Exo Tour users who use full poly jobs - I'm interested in any general thoughts and observations re tensions/strings etc.

Cheers
 

laboule

Rookie
I mainly like the flex and superb control from the baseline together with access to topspin and the sick angles it produces...

I am still struggling with my first servers but kick serves are great.

As for stringing I did not get along well with a hybrid but full poly around 50-53lbs seems good for me. Currently I string with BB Alu. I also do a one-piece string job, cant stand 4 knots :)
 
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Power Player

Bionic Poster
I am starting to find so much power with this stick, that I took off my lead on my main one.

The spin and pace I am starting to get with this racquet is obnoxious. More importantly my backhand has never been better.
 

skeeter

Professional
I am starting to find so much power with this stick, that I took off my lead on my main one.

The spin and pace I am starting to get with this racquet is obnoxious. More importantly my backhand has never been better.

I recall you stating earlier that you were going to try 6-inch strips of lead. Did you ever try that and, if so, any comments? I'm testing 2g at 3 and 9, using 2-inch strips on each side of the stringbed. So far, so good.
 

Ross K

Legend
Right, a bit of light hitting this week before first match proper tomorrow. Have recreated lead set up I had on 03 Tour, namely 2g @12. It all may be somewhat in vain as it still has the Prince factory string it just arrived with. Anyhow, at least I should get a reasonable impression of the frame.

Thus far though, it does indeed seem to have a lot of basic similarities to the older 03 Tours (no surprise there) - and that includes many positives (lightish and fast-swinging, hits mega-spinny, crisper than crisp, unique cupping/launching sensation, love the grip shape, comfort), and a few negatives (the feel can be somewhat 'different', I'm a bit patchy re being grooved with g/stroke depth, pj looks easy to mark up.)

Way too premature to be making any pronouncements though... next week I'll more than likely be changing it up to Tour Bite @ 50 lbs. That should really help put me in the picture.:wink:
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I recall you stating earlier that you were going to try 6-inch strips of lead. Did you ever try that and, if so, any comments? I'm testing 2g at 3 and 9, using 2-inch strips on each side of the stringbed. So far, so good.

Yes, I have not tried that yet because I want to match my racquets first. One has a thinner grip on it, so there is a weight difference. Once I get that replaced, I will have both at stock and then be able to tweak a little bit with lead again. I definitely will try 6 inch strips if I add lead again, and I will probably start at 10 and 2.

I have started hitting very hard with this racquet lately since I tweaked my string setup so I just pulled the weight off to see if I still even needed it.

Ross, this racquet has a lot of depth to it..not sure if it is the feel or what, but the more you hit with it, the heavier the balls get. Once you get the power consistent, the spin coming off the court will drive people insane. I used to have a weak backhand, but those days have ended finally with this stick. Must be the flex and headsize.

Anyway, now and then you will get pulled wide and out of position,throw out a reverse forehand that is so loaded with pace and spin that it doesn't make sense. The feel of the racquet is so soft that some shots like that surprise you. I like it a lot, since it has saved my wrist. If you ever feel like you need more ball feel, the string grommets provide that, but I prefer the comfort of the port holes.
 

Ross K

Legend
Yes, I have not tried that yet because I want to match my racquets first. One has a thinner grip on it, so there is a weight difference. Once I get that replaced, I will have both at stock and then be able to tweak a little bit with lead again. I definitely will try 6 inch strips if I add lead again, and I will probably start at 10 and 2.

I have started hitting very hard with this racquet lately since I tweaked my string setup so I just pulled the weight off to see if I still even needed it.

Ross, this racquet has a lot of depth to it..not sure if it is the feel or what, but the more you hit with it, the heavier the balls get. Once you get the power consistent, the spin coming off the court will drive people insane. I used to have a weak backhand, but those days have ended finally with this stick. Must be the flex and headsize.

Anyway, now and then you will get pulled wide and out of position,throw out a reverse forehand that is so loaded with pace and spin that it doesn't make sense. The feel of the racquet is so soft that some shots like that surprise you. I like it a lot, since it has saved my wrist. If you ever feel like you need more ball feel, the string grommets provide that, but I prefer the comfort of the port holes.

Cheers PP. I hear you. I probably shouldn't have posted any thoughts yet at all and waiting until tomorrow's outing - and even then I still need to resting - but, well, you know how a racketaholic can get ahead of himself in all the, er, excitement.:).. btw, so you're at ZERO lead, is that right? I'm actually just debating about playing on Friday with maybe no lead at all.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Yes tonight I plan to hit with no lead. I only had a total of 2 grams at 3 and 9 so I am curious if I notice a difference. I am getting so much power out of the stick that I wanted to dial it back down a little, so I lessened the swing weight.
 

Ross K

Legend
Yes tonight I plan to hit with no lead. I only had a total of 2 grams at 3 and 9 so I am curious if I notice a difference. I am getting so much power out of the stick that I wanted to dial it back down a little, so I lessened the swing weight.

You know I like my free power?... so you reckon I should come in with TB @ my normal 52s, or you think I can drop lower with the Exo Tour? I'm after mucho poppo!:)
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I string at 59 since I use synth gut crosses..I like the poly at 54.

What you should do is start with your preferred string and tension and then practice hitting some flat winners and see how the power level is.

I feel like this racquet loves tensions between 55-60 and reacts better to that. If you hit with a western grip, you will put so much action on the ball that you will want to flatten it out a little bit for winners, or you can do the Donald Young style forehand - heavy spin into the open court. It's a lot more high % and the ball kicks so hard off the court after the bounce that a ball that feels lower paced will actually be harder for an opponent to get to than a flatter shot.

Anyway, my baseline for getting the stick setup right was seeing what tension allowed me to hit flatter winners. When you get that dialed in, you will be able to hit an array of shots. Very interested in how your backhand works for you with the stick, especially on serve returns.
 

wiibssz

Rookie
Hey, I think about buying a Prine exo3 Tour 100. I'm demoing the 18x20 4 1/4 with 2 overgrips, because there wasn't any 4 3/8 available. If I want a 16x18 or 18x20, I have to order them, so wich one is the best to chose?

I found the 18x20 a little low powered and I haven't found the spin production very big. I've only played once with this racket and with a bit soft balls, but is the difference between the 16x18 and the 18x20 really big? I play with quit some spin, not ridiciously much because I play on artificial grass so the ball bounces quit low.

thanks in advance!
 

Kcraig

Professional
Wanted to chime in after having these frames for a month now and still love them. Am finding so much control/confidence off both sides. Really a super stick to setup a point as you can hit some nasty heavy/deep rally balls and swing your opponent out wide to open up the court. BH slice is just plain sick and am starting to get some very good action on serves. Volleys are coming around, but it still lacks some of the crispness the 7g had--but the EXO kills the 7g in all other areas, so I will take that all day long.

Arm friendly does not even begin to describe this frame. I'm still using full multi (NXT in one and Blk Xcel in one both at 55) and am having no problems with control or generating spin. Durability is not too bad--able to squeeze out around 10hrs--been adding a few stringsavers when needed.
 

TheOneHander

Professional
You know I like my free power?... so you reckon I should come in with TB @ my normal 52s, or you think I can drop lower with the Exo Tour? I'm after mucho poppo!:)

I tried full TB17 @52 and found there to be more pop and spin than I had with BHBR at the same tension. I'd say 50lbs wouldn't be a bad choice, I really seem to play my best with the Tours when the tension is around 48lbs or so. The pop is reigned in by the extra spin, so I tend to hit a heavier ball.

Hey, I think about buying a Prine exo3 Tour 100. I'm demoing the 18x20 4 1/4 with 2 overgrips, because there wasn't any 4 3/8 available. If I want a 16x18 or 18x20, I have to order them, so wich one is the best to chose?

I found the 18x20 a little low powered and I haven't found the spin production very big. I've only played once with this racket and with a bit soft balls, but is the difference between the 16x18 and the 18x20 really big? I play with quit some spin, not ridiciously much because I play on artificial grass so the ball bounces quit low.

thanks in advance!

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=6055085&postcount=134

Also, if you've just played with foam balls, I'd wait until you hit the courts with actual tennis balls before you make a decision. Those balls really zap away the playing characteristics of a frame/string setup, IMO.
 

deshray

New User
Tour vs Tour Lite

I am looking for a player's comparison between the Tour and the Tour Lite. I know the specs are different but how do they play?
 

wiibssz

Rookie
I tried full TB17 @52 and found there to be more pop and spin than I had with BHBR at the same tension. I'd say 50lbs wouldn't be a bad choice, I really seem to play my best with the Tours when the tension is around 48lbs or so. The pop is reigned in by the extra spin, so I tend to hit a heavier ball.



http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=6055085&postcount=134

Also, if you've just played with foam balls, I'd wait until you hit the courts with actual tennis balls before you make a decision. Those balls really zap away the playing characteristics of a frame/string setup, IMO.


I didn't play with foam balls, I mean with a bit soft balls that the balls were a bit old, just not as hard as they were when they are new. I'm just curious wich racket will fit the most/ is the best.I will switch from the APDC. I'm just confused that the playtesters from TW gave the 18x20 the best notes, but more people like the 16x18 and all the juniors, wta pros and atp pros use the 16x18. Will the 18x20 give me good acces to spin and enough power to take my game to the next level?
 

TheOneHander

Professional
I'd say try the 16x18. The review that I posted makes the differences very clear, and the 16x18 has a fair amount of pop and more spin than any racquet I have ever used (including such monsters as the APDGT and the PDRC+). As for pros, though, Troicki uses the 18x20 if that makes a difference. But the racquet won't magically change your game and make you better, although my switch has opened up a lot of options for me. We can't answer that question for you-only you can.
 

Centryx

Semi-Pro
just wondering what everyones strung weight and balance is and where you put the lead?
mine is 324 g strung no lead 9 pts balance
 

Ross K

Legend
PP, 1her,

Yes, good points ^^^ and I'd probably be best to go in at my usual TB @ 52 lbs and take it from there.
 

BigM

Rookie
Add me to the club!

Ok I have caved. After a very long testing period with the Volkl x8 315 and the Prince Exo3 Tour 100 16x18 I can say at long last that the Prince Won out!! I love the flex , comfort and speed thru the air. The spin with RPM at 48 LBS is just stupid and do any shots feel bad with this stick? I went with the Prince because its essentially the same kinda of Balance/weight as my IG Speeds but with a Plush Flexible feel. (No Elbow pain)

Getting 3 Rackets within the specs of the Demo was a bit of a pain with the first 3 from the shop being 23 grams out of spec. Prince were fantastic with their Customer service and sent a further 11 rackets to my local shop to make sure I got 3 with the same exact specs. Great Service Prince!

Specs are 3x Exo3 Tour 16x18 100's: 335 static 340 sw and 32 Balance - Current string setup is Babolat RPM@ 48. 4 3/8 grips.

Big M
 

bad_call

Legend
Add me to the club!

Ok I have caved. After a very long testing period with the Volkl x8 315 and the Prince Exo3 Tour 100 16x18 I can say at long last that the Prince Won out!! I love the flex , comfort and speed thru the air. The spin with RPM at 48 LBS is just stupid and do any shots feel bad with this stick? I went with the Prince because its essentially the same kinda of Balance/weight as my IG Speeds but with a Plush Flexible feel. (No Elbow pain)

Getting 3 Rackets within the specs of the Demo was a bit of a pain with the first 3 from the shop being 23 grams out of spec. Prince were fantastic with their Customer service and sent a further 11 rackets to my local shop to make sure I got 3 with the same exact specs. Great Service Prince!

Specs are 3x Exo3 Tour 16x18 100's: 335 static 340 sw and 32 Balance - Current string setup is Babolat RPM@ 48. 4 3/8 grips.

Big M

wow that's great of Prince to do that.
 

Ross K

Legend
First match today with the Exo Tour and I've got to say I'm impressed, impressed big time. 1her, Klem, PP, others, you've been spot on with your comments/posts etc. TBH I'm actually seriously tempted to commit to it right now - and this is with the wrong string, at the wrong tension, with mods I'm not convinced by, and in tricky damp weather... can you imagine how I'll like it with the right string, tension, mods, etc?! LOL!:)
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Wow..awesome Ross. I swear the racquet just gets more and more fun over time. I enjoy it more now than when I first got it, and that's usually not the case for us holics.
 

TheOneHander

Professional
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Add me to the club!

IIRC, you used M2 Pro in the Speeds, what do you find the differences between them are? I'm placing a string order soon and need to be sure I'm getting what I need ;)

By the way, you've been added to the list as number 36. Welcome welcome!

wow that's great of Prince to do that.

+1. I haven't noticed any variations in the specs of my first two Tours which were purchased a month apart. I haven't really used the third one, but the quality control isn't something that will throw off my game-I can switch between my racquets without any problems. I also think Prince's customer service is pretty great, they've sent me two sets of boomerang tools twice with no delay...although I still need to get an orange one for my frames!

First match today with the Exo Tour and I've got to say I'm impressed, impressed big time. 1her, Klem, PP, others, you've been spot on with your comments/posts etc. TBH I'm actually seriously tempted to commit to it right now - and this is with the wrong string, at the wrong tension, with mods I'm not convinced by, and in tricky damp weather... can you imagine how I'll like it with the right string, tension, mods, etc?! LOL!

Ross,

It's pretty exciting, isn't it? I found that even on what would normally be a bad day that I would play decently well. It's like I can't miss. I gave the racquet to one of my hitting partners yesterday and his exact words were, "I'm trying to miss with this thing, but I just can't." I don't want to say it's magical but it's pretty magical. What made the difference between the EXO3 and the O3 for you?

Wow..awesome Ross. I swear the racquet just gets more and more fun over time. I enjoy it more now than when I first got it, and that's usually not the case for us holics.

I agree wholeheartedly. At first, the racquet's qualities were really obvious, and it was a blast. Now that I've settled in with it, I find that I can hit some pretty great shots, and when I do, it's like I just bought it all over again. It just makes the game fun!

By the way, all, here's the updated Members List. I'll move it to every fifth page as the thread grows :) Thanks for making this list such a success!

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1) TheSafin: 16x18
2) tata: 18x20
3) adamvann: 16x18, Barb Wire
4) Power Player: 16x18, Black Magic/BAM
5) tennis-kid: 16x18
6) tennismonkey: 18x20, 4 grams @3&9 total, 1 gram @12
7) Orion3: 16x18, BHBR 17 @38lbs
8 ) rlau: 18x20, B5E
9) NYCTennis1: 16x18, Tour Bite 16L @60 lbs, 3 grams at 3&9, 6 grams under the butt cap
10) Applesauceman: 16x18 & 18x20
11) TheOneHander: 16x18, BHBR 17 @52lbs
12) Klementine79: 18x20
13) buffalobill3: 16x18 and 18x20
14) Kcraig: B5E/Maxim Touch
15) Centryx: 16x18
16) westside: 16x18, Vfeel/ALU power @54
17) Rabbit: Team, Lux Ace 18/NRG2 17 @48/50
18 ) parasailing: 16x18
19) jk175d: 16x18, VS 17 mains/poly crosses @55/48 full Tour Bite @47/45, 2g lead at 10&2
20) cknobman: 16x18, Sensation Duo @60/55
21) tapatio: 18x20
22) beeveewee: 18x20
23) Papa Mango: 18x20 (main) & 16x18, TW Leather, 3g@3&9. Multifeel/Cyberflash@57/54
24) IceNineTX: 16x18
25) pug: 18x20 
26) anewtypedude: 18x20, VS Gut/Pro Hurricane Tour @57/52, 4g @3&9 & 1g @12
27) tinyman: 16x18, 4g @ 3 & 9. Head Tour Leather, 48/46 (CP) BHBR.
28 ) Faithfulfather: 18x20, Head rip control 17/OGSM 17
29) MINERAKE: 16x18, Luxilon Adrenaline @57
30) Coasterman9: 16x18, Solinco Tour Bite 17
31) Magic of tennis: 16x18
32) AceServer: 18x20
33) Gregnoris: 16x18, MSV Focus Hex
34) laboule: 16x18, BB ALU Power @53
35) kyofu: 18x20, Cyclone 18 @57
36) BigM: 16x18, RPM @48
37) Murray_fan1: 16x18, some crispy poly
38 ) mhj202, 16x18
39) skeeter: 18x20, VS gut/WCSS (57/53)
40) maggmaster
41) Jonahan: Tour Team
42) wjh546157: 18x20, RPM/Xcel
43) Anton: 18x20, Hyperion 17 @ 55lbs, 7g lead top half of the hoop
44) corbind: 16x18
 
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Ross K

Legend
1her, all,

To answer your Q, 03 Tour is more boardy, more inconsistent and patchy feel-wise, doesn't serve as well, and doesn't seem to be generally as dynamic, 'primed' and as altogether 'exollent' as Exo Tour!:)

Will post up a mini-review or whatever later, but without giving too much away now, I liked it a lot on serve but wonder if that was something to do with the lead @ 12? I mention this as I generally (like with groundies) felt a little held back or a tiny tad slower than I like with that lead placement and am already considering next logical step which would be 10 and 2. Dilemma is will I lose that nice 1st serve pop I was finding yesterday if I start shifting the lead down from 12? Hmmm... a few options here (incl. keeping lead @ 12 and weighting handle?) Also, I know I could probably adjust to how it presently with practice and over time... decisions, decisions.:wink:
 

Ross K

Legend
1her, all,

To answer your Q, 03 Tour is more boardy, more inconsistent and patchy feel-wise, doesn't serve as well, and doesn't seem to be generally as dynamic, 'primed' and as altogether 'exollent' as Exo Tour!:)

Will post up a mini-review or whatever later, but without giving too much away now, I liked it a lot on serve but wonder if that was something to do with the lead @ 12? I mention this as I generally (like with groundies) felt a little held back or a tiny tad slower than I like with that lead placement and am already considering next logical step which would be 10 and 2. Dilemma is will I lose that nice 1st serve pop I was finding yesterday if I start shifting the lead down from 12? Hmmm... a few options here (incl. keeping lead @ 12 and weighting handle?) Also, I know I could probably adjust to how it presently with practice and over time... decisions, decisions.:wink:

Correction... I meant NOT with groundies - it was absolutely fine with groundies, rather more general maneuverability, reaction stuff, etc I'm referring to. Maybe moving weight down a bit would add a bit of speed for me? I know there are different viewpoints on this though.
 

Meaghan

Hall of Fame
1her, all,

To answer your Q, 03 Tour is more boardy, more inconsistent and patchy feel-wise, doesn't serve as well, and doesn't seem to be generally as dynamic, 'primed' and as altogether 'exollent' as Exo Tour!:)

Will post up a mini-review or whatever later, but without giving too much away now, I liked it a lot on serve but wonder if that was something to do with the lead @ 12? I mention this as I generally (like with groundies) felt a little held back or a tiny tad slower than I like with that lead placement and am already considering next logical step which would be 10 and 2. Dilemma is will I lose that nice 1st serve pop I was finding yesterday if I start shifting the lead down from 12? Hmmm... a few options here (incl. keeping lead @ 12 and weighting handle?) Also, I know I could probably adjust to how it presently with practice and over time... decisions, decisions.:wink:

Ross there is a fine line between lead weighting for ground strokes and serving. Weight at 12 certainly adds pop to your serve and I find weight at 10 & 2 helps with groundstrokes. I would prob take the lead at 12 off and divide it between 10, 2 & 12.

I have a lot of weight at 12 (7g) as my serve is my main weapon and recently with my new pb10 mid my fh has been wayward. It only took 1g divided between 10 & 2 to make a huge difference and my fh is now pasting the lines and I've lost nothing on the serve. When I had 3g at 10 & 2....I struggled with the extra weight on serve, so as you see it can be a small amount that makes a good set up bad and vica versa.
 

bad_call

Legend
had a hitting/serving/etc session on the dirt with PP and he brought two Exo3 Tours that were strung with "acceptable" poly/syngut hybrid. rotated between the Dunlop 100s and the Exo3T. what a nice racquet. it performs so well i could be tempted to get one. and on top of that it's so dang comfortable. Prince got this one right.
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
Count me in!

All this talk has made me take a second look at this racquet. Ordered the 16x18 pattern. I always liked this stick but never really gave myself enough time to get in the groove or play with different string set ups etc. Can't wait to give it another go!!

Still unclear what I will string it with at this point. I have some BHSR, Tecnifibre Ruff Code, Black Venom Rough,BHBR and Black Magic. I prefer a crisper feeling poly so I am tempted to use the BHSR or Ruff Code.
 

TheOneHander

Professional
I really haven't tried any crispier strings in my frames yet-I've mainly hit with what's in my signature, although today I strung one up with BHBR 17 at 30/28 lbs. My next string setup will probably be Revenge 16 at 48 or Black Magic 16 at the same tension, I'm not sure yet. I really want to purchase a fourth so I can experiment more!

MF1, you've been added :)
 

mhj202

Rookie
Count me in as well.

Couldn't resist. Picked up a 16x18 and am seriously considering picking up another so I can experiment with string set-up.
 

jaybear1909

Rookie
Is 4g at 3, 4g at 9 and 8g on the handle too much for this racket? Mine's weighing in around 345g, just a little under 12.2 ounces I think. Not sure if I'm getting much benefit from the lead. Feels very stable when I hold it, but still off-center shots just don't feel good.

Switched from playing with a soft 16g multi to a stiffer 17g multi and it's a WORLD of difference. In a bad way lol. 16g seems the way to go with this thing. Can't wait to get that comfort back that sold me on this racquet.
 

NYCtennis1

Rookie
Ditching TB as I found ALU actually holds up a little longer for me, may try some BHBR because of all the raving posts from TheOneHnder:) But until that gets in I think I might try out Champions Choice, anyone who uses a gut/poly or poly/gut hybrid how is it going for you?
 

BigM

Rookie
IIRC, you used M2 Pro in the Speeds, what do you find the differences between them are? I'm placing a string order soon and need to be sure I'm getting what I need ;)

By the way, you've been added to the list as number 36. Welcome welcome!

Hey 1hder!

When I was using my Head IG Speeds I found them to be very stiff and M2 really helped soften the response. When I first demoed the Exo Tours I tried M2 Pro which I really enjoyed however with RPM in 1 of my new frames as a test I was getting amazing spin and pop. Rpm doesn't have the same feel as M2 pro but the Spin is just wow. I'm thinking of trying Luxilon Savage. RPM is a fun string in a really fun Racket.

BigM
 
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mikeler

Moderator
had a hitting/serving/etc session on the dirt with PP and he brought two Exo3 Tours that were strung with "acceptable" poly/syngut hybrid. rotated between the Dunlop 100s and the Exo3T. what a nice racquet. it performs so well i could be tempted to get one. and on top of that it's so dang comfortable. Prince got this one right.


Dangit, I thought I was done with my equipment search. Now that you, PP and KCraig love it, I'll have to hit with it sometime.
 
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