Can this type of combo be used until the gut breaks or will the poly die and have a negative impact on the performance after a while?
I'm not sure to what extent playing in slightly wet conditions had on the mains, but the notching took off like wildfire shortly after that. Also immediately noticeable was that I'd need to straighten out the mains a couple of times an hour.
I am using the KLIP Legend Tour that has a double (black) coating on it that seems to me to prolong the life of the string. You may want to try that next. It also looks bad-ass with the MSV Co-Focis 18 in the crosses.
I really feel that I need to swing out in order to get good depth. As you pointed out previously, if I don't forcefully put enough topspin while I am swinging out, the ball just launches.
Do you feel it is just a matter of letting the strings break in? Or maybe I should drop the tension even lower?
Definitely give it more time -- like until the 8 hour mark. You'll find both more spin and a little more pop by then.
The other thing that you'll come to realize is that the setup rewards swinging out, and once you get the hang of it, you'll start noticing that you're hitting more winners and unreturnables.
Just remember that this is a new setup for you, and there'll be a adjustment period, so feel free to experiment a little.
And as you point out, the other option is to go a few pounds lower in the future.
Interesting. I'm having the same setup I've just used put into my other MGPM, and have decided to give Pac classic 16L a try after that.
Klip Legend sure does sound good from your reviews, and you're getting precisely the kind of durability I wanted from this. Perhaps in a few months I'll give it and Klip Armour Pro a test drive.
I think the lower the tension the less likely you will notice the crosses going dead. at higher tensions on the poly, say 52 and up, you *feel* a lot more of the poly and therefore when it goes dead you will feel its stiffness. At lower poly cross tensions you will feel the gut mains much more, so when the poly is done, you still don't feel it much. That's my experience anyway.
KLIP Legend Tour - Highest grade natural gut with tremendous playability. Legend Tour offers 2 coatings providing a livelier feel with more durability. Very responsive string with the uniformly smooth feel of natural gut. 100% Australian. Comes in a non-traditional black color.
What is the easiest way to post a photo of my set-up? I am not totally up on this new fangled technology thingy.
What's your take on the differences between your Klip and VS? One thing I've noticed about the 1.18 co-focus cross is that it cuts through the VS mains a bit quickly. I've got about 15 hours of solid 4.5 hitting on this stringjob and a couple of spots look like they are almost cut all the way through, aside from just a couple of spots there is otherwise not much wear and no fraying. On the other frame where I have VS and Silverstring 17g crosses there is hardly any notching after a month.
I really love the VS but don't think I want to spend $25 a week on strings. I've never used stringsavers before, is that what I should look into here?
The double coating on the KLIP Legend Tour 17 seems to be working with the MSV C0-Focus 18 wonderfully. Very, veryy little fraying after 35 hours, so far. At $29. it is also a great value. You may want to give it a go.
What is the easiest way to post a photo of my set-up? I am not totally up on this new fangled technology thingy.
By the way, is it possible to ask you for a pic of your setup??
Let me know if these images come through. If not, I can send to you and you can post them.
Played with this setup tonight for the first time with the gut strung at 52lbs and co-focus strung at 48lbs on my new IG Instinct and having mixed feelings about it.
Serves:
Loved loved loved the pace and spin I got on my serves. My friends mentioned how how much kick and twist the balls were getting. 11/10 in my book.
Everything Else:
The setup seems a bit too powerful on my IG Instinct and I don't think it's suited for a tweener type racquet. I didn't have the control I was looking for. Swing too hard, the ball flys...swing softly, the ball goes into the net. I couldn't dial in that sweet spot where everything meshes.
The setup was incredibly soft on my arm/shoulder though which was a big plus for me. I'm going to string the other half sets onto my LM Radical and see what kind of results I get on a more control oriented racquet. I'm afraid to string higher on my Instinct since people here have mentioned how stringing the poly into the 50's will mess with the feel that I'm supposed to get with this setup.
Has anyone here strung the poly into the low 50's with any luck? I'd like to know because I think adding a few more pounds of tension to this setup would really help in my racquet.
Do you notice a big difference in the feel/playability between that and VS? I just wonder how much a double coated gut still feels like gut.
I'll answer my own question a bit here... I've been playing for about 9-10 days with Klip Legend 17 in the mains. It's not double coated like the black, but clearly it is coated differently than the VS. Whereas the co-focus 1.18 cut through the VS to the point of breakage for me after a week of solid hitting, the Klip has barely started to notch after about the same amount/type of play.
So for me the Klip plays almost like the VS, a little firmer, *ever slightly* less spin. But I do have to say the intangible is it's not quite as much fun even if it performs almost the same. I think my plan will be to keep one frame with VS and the other with Klip.
imo the poly at say 52 would produce more trampoline than the poly at 48. Lower tension on the poly produces better pocketing, more spin, and control. You might try leaving the poly where it is and go up a couple of lbs on the gut mains. I am in the habit of about 7lb differential. Last night I strung up one at 54/46. (EXO3 Tour 100 16x18).
Are you more of a flat hitter or topspin? Fast swing?
As a new stringer making every mistake possible I say HA!You misweaved at the top.
I'm more of a topspin hitter. Do you think 55/50 or 57/50 would help to stiffen out the racquet a bit? Basically I love the spin I get from this racquet and setup, but I'd like to tame the power down a few notches. If I can't then I'll have to switch racquets yet again.
Honestly, only one way to find out. You have to spend the money and string it up and try it out. If my experience is any indicator, you will find it still plays great going up 2-3 lbs or down 2-3 lbs - it will just do somethings a little better and other things not quite as well as the other tension. In the end, you have to settle in at what tension does the most things well for you personally based on your needs and your style of play.
I wish there was a shortcut, but there isn't. I spent $800. in string and stringing fees to settle on what I have now with the racquet I have now. Am I nuts or what?
I'm more of a topspin hitter. Do you think 55/50 or 57/50 would help to stiffen out the racquet a bit? Basically I love the spin I get from this racquet and setup, but I'd like to tame the power down a few notches. If I can't then I'll have to switch racquets yet again.
I'm more of a topspin hitter. Do you think 55/50 or 57/50 would help to stiffen out the racquet a bit? Basically I love the spin I get from this racquet and setup, but I'd like to tame the power down a few notches. If I can't then I'll have to switch racquets yet again.
I'm more of a topspin hitter. Do you think 55/50 or 57/50 would help to stiffen out the racquet a bit? Basically I love the spin I get from this racquet and setup, but I'd like to tame the power down a few notches. If I can't then I'll have to switch racquets yet again.
I'm more of a topspin hitter. Do you think 55/50 or 57/50 would help to stiffen out the racquet a bit? Basically I love the spin I get from this racquet and setup, but I'd like to tame the power down a few notches. If I can't then I'll have to switch racquets yet again.
That's quite a spread in tension between the crosses and mains.
If you want to tame the power a bit, why don't you just normalize the spread a little bit? For example, instead of 55/50 or 57/50, why not 55/52 or 57/54?
That's quite a spread in tension between the crosses and mains.
If you want to tame the power a bit, why don't you just normalize the spread a little bit? For example, instead of 55/50 or 57/50, why not 55/52 or 57/54?
So I put the other set on my LM Radical at the same 52/48 tension and it played like a dream! The setup gave the Radical the spin and power that it normally lacks from other string setups, while maintaining the control that the Radical is so well known for.
Now all I need to do is find a racquet that's less harsh on my arm than the LM Radical, but plays the same, and I'm all set!
Now all I need to do is find a racquet that's less harsh on my arm than the LM Radical, but plays the same, and I'm all set!
This would be the Head Youtek Prestige Pro or Mid+.
While this string is smooth, it wasn't nearly as slippery during stringing as the Hepta-Twist. I warmed up for about 10 minutes with this setup today, and it felt good, but I'm not sure it is as good as the Hepta-Twist. That Classic Gut/Hepta-Twist hybrid is just awesome for about the first 10 hours.