^^ No I think he was leading 6 - 5, 15 - 30 in the third set. That's the closest he got to match pt
Fed said it was his best victory ever. Given the way Rafa was playing, seriously...no.
Something on twitter or facebook where Fed said it was his best victory ever.
I think you need to document this in some way if it is to be believed.No, I read the quote. I'm not the kind to "vaguely" deduce. I didn't save it though.
Fed lost RG. It really doesn't matter who he beat in the process if he doesn't win the title anyway.
You should just thank him for saving Rafa from another beatdown at the hands of Djokovic.
I actually think there is a pretty good possibility that Ferrer can beat Djokovic. I also don't think that Djokovic is the most in-form player at this year's WTF apart from Federer. I think Tsonga is.
nah dude Berdych played out of his mind and still lost to Djokovic. Hes in decent shape. We dont know that much about Ferrer since Murray sucked completely. I dont think he stands a chance against Djokovic, though, he doesnt have anything to hurt him especially on this surface. Tipsarevic wont beat Djokovic unless Novak tanks big time.
Tsonga could be tricky for Djokovic if they meet in the semis though I agree with that
Almost 3 slams lost to Joker. Lucky for Rafa that Fred took care of things in the semi !He didn't have a fantastic season. Not by a long shot. 6 major finals lost to the same player including 2 slams. That's a fantastic season?? For a player of Rafa's caliber? In what universe?? It was a good season but it was Rafa's worst since 2004.
Almost 3 slams lost to Joker. Lucky for Rafa that Fred took care of things in the semi !
Perspective, some people on this board would do well to get it, sheesh. Rafatards are just unbelievable.
The man makes what...8 straight finals, on 3 surfaces? IW, Miami, Monte Carlo, Madrid, Rome, FO, Queen's Club, Wimbledon. Sadly, he only wins 2 of these finals, falling to the hands of one player in particular...
Makes 3 slam finals, wins one. Makes back to back finals in ALL 3 slams.
Like I said, Nadal did NOT have a bad season. Someone else just had a BETTER season.
Actually within the top 3-4 how good or bad a season is depends on their respective standards and they lean on one another.
Nadal had a bad 2009 because Fed won more slams and titles. Nadal won a slam in 2009.
Fed had a bad 2010 because Nadal won more slams and titles. Fed won a slam and WTF. Ditto for 2008 except the WTF part.
Coming to 2011, Nadal had a bad year because Djoko won more slams and masters than him.
As a elite(and I mean top 4) player, you can't have a "good" year when someone else is ruling the roost above you. Adequate maybe but not good. While you talk about those finals, you forget that Nadal would have been slamless if Djoko hadn't been taken out in RG. Then how would Nadal's year look? 8 finals, no slams. Not so good anymore, huh? First slamless year since 2004 suddenly changes the tone of the discussion.
Speaking from the perspective of a longtime Nadal fan, Nadal had maybe one or two matches in 2011 that reminded me of his old self and funny enough, they were in tournies that he actually lost. Nadal was a shadow of his former self this year if we are talking about his game.
Perspective, some people on this board would do well to get it, sheesh. Rafatards are just unbelievable.
The man makes what...8 straight finals, on 3 surfaces? IW, Miami, Monte Carlo, Madrid, Rome, FO, Queen's Club, Wimbledon. Sadly, he only wins 2 of these finals, falling to the hands of one player in particular...
Makes 3 slam finals, wins one. Makes back to back finals in ALL 3 slams.
Like I said, Nadal did NOT have a bad season. Someone else just had a BETTER season.
Reluctantly, as a big Nadal fan I have to agree. Without Novak 2.0 in the picture my hero would have had the bestest year of his career no doubt.
If you think, irregardless of losing in the finals, that Nadal's results are bad, there is really nothing more to say to you, you will have slipped irrevocably into delusional ****ism.
Are you kidding me? Even if Djoker had taken him out at RG, he would still have made the finals...back to back years of making 3 slam finals. That is still phenomenal....except to delusional fantards.
You misinterpret, they are bad according to that player(Nadal's)standards). His golden standard, in the last years at least:
is to win at least one GS(usually RG) - barely, and only because Fed took Djoker out. I don't have to tell you what I though about his performance during the whole of RG 2011.
dominate most clay masters - only MC this year and his performance there was not exactly mindblowing to be sure.
get to WB final - check.
And this is RESULTS wise, if we are talking about game, his clay game has taken a BIG hit, grass is about the same, HC level is worse than 2010 but still better than pre 2009 levels.
Without Fed's unexpected gift in RG, Nadal would have failed to win a slam this year. RG and MC are the only saving graces in 2011 for him, Nadal will be the first to tell you that.
Finals don't matter,titles matter. Ask Lendl.
I doubt Nadal would think that a year in which he lost 7 finals is a good one.
I didnt say he had a perfect year, what I said was by no means did he have a BAD year, even by his standards. Nadal Im sure would take the consistency of making so many finals, all he would change is the outcome of the final itself, obviously.
But to say he had a bad year is ridiculous. It may have been a painful and humbling year, but it was still very very good. Someone else was just better.
What a **** statement. You cant win a title if you dont even get to the final!
There isnt an LOL in the world big enough to encapsulate the derision Im feeling right now, as if you know the inner workings of
Rafa's brain, LMAO! But I do admit, had he lost the RG final, who knows what would have happened in Wimbly.
Was a couple of seats from the front to see the biggest demolition of Rafa ever, it was just a perfect performance, it feels like he just hit a winner on every point and didn't miss a thing, just incredible, one of the best performances of Feds career for sure, i feel unbelievably lucky to have seen my idol playing such unbelievable tennis, god ive seen some surprising results the time i was there, Ferrer beating Djokovic 6-3 6-1 indoors, that was just ridiculous, probably the biggest upset of the year, never saw it coming in a million years, is funny how everyone had written Ferrer off to be the weakest opponent of this event and has yet to drop a set lol.
From 2004 - 2011, Nadal has had five years where he won 1 Major a year, one year where he won two (2008), and one year where he won 3 (2010). Winning more than one slam a year for Nadal is not the norm, it is extraordinary. However, a season where he "only" wins one slam is not a bad one.
You should just thank him for saving Rafa from another beatdown at the hands of Djokovic.
From 2004 - 2011, Nadal has had five years where he won 1 Major a year, one year where he won two (2008) , and one year where he won 3 (2010). Winning more than one slam a year for Nadal is not the norm, it is extraordinary. However, a season where he "only" wins one slam is not a bad one.
Like reading your posts, capture the mood of a Federer fan in a well articulated way.
Watching godmode Federer live. WOW!
idk about this. Federer was the better player at RG and Nadal took him down. Yes, it isn't exactly a novelty when Nadal beats Federer but quite possibly, Djokovic could have been overwhelmed by Rafa's spin and speed.
No way, great view that, almost 90 degrees! Ticket price must've been a bomb?
was only £32 lol since im under 18, next year they will be £60, still very good for those seats
Jeez, a few bitter Nadal fans still keeping this thread going. Can't get over it ?
Such a shame. Nadal fans should follow in veroniques's footsteps. He is the epitome of respectable Nadal fandom.
Jeez, a few bitter Nadal fans still keeping this thread going. Can't get over it ?
Such a shame. Nadal fans should follow in veroniques's footsteps. He is the epitome of respectable Nadal fandom.
Wow hold your horses there. The only place where Fed is superior to Rafa is indoor. Rafa beat Fed at RG and Miami and I think would beat Fed anywhere outdoor unless his form deteriorates significantly. Fed did not beat a red hot Djoko on hard yet. 1 win on clay for 4 or 5 losses elsewhere (including in the 2 hard court slams) is NOT a good record.
if fed had a decent opponent in 2004, federer wouldn't have 13 slams.
******* and hewitt were and still are crap on clay. ddick avoided most clay events and couldn't serve with disguise or good direction, but the weak era was so bad that he was ranked #2 FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
if ddick was so good, how come he failed to beat top 10 players in davis cup ties? nadal's serve is never consistent on hardcourts, but even he could beat top 10 opponents in davis cup ties and the olympics.
federer failed to win olympic medals in 2 olympics and he knew davis cup ties would've distracted him from getting lucky in the 2004 & 2007 wimbledon finals, 2009 french open, 2009 wimbledon final and 2010 australian open.
I don't think I've ever read a sensible and coherent post of yours in all my time here on these part of the forums - it's always Federer bashing. What did he do to you? Not give you an autograph? Take your candy?
I know. It's only a game, for sureshs' sake.Most of them can't sleep obsessing over 16, 237, 5, etc
I don't think I've ever read a sensible and coherent post of yours in all my time here on these part of the forums - it's always Federer bashing. What did he do to you? Not give you an autograph? Take your candy?
Are you sure 18 is when the prices change? I've been thinking of going before I hit that age.was only £32 lol since im under 18, next year they will be £60, still very good for those seats
Fed got to 2 MPs against Djoker in the USO, how far did Rafa go, please remind me?
Fed basically won Rafa the RG by beating Djokovic for him.
Fed slaughtered Rafa with Rafa playing as good as he possibly could (and serving in high %) in WTF.
Fed has 16 slams, Rafa has 10. Until Rafa gets to that number, shut it.
Are you sure 18 is when the prices change? I've been thinking of going before I hit that age.
Put devila on ignore. Along with sobad. They seem to be one and the same person.I don't think I've ever read a sensible and coherent post of yours in all my time here on these part of the forums - it's always Federer bashing. What did he do to you? Not give you an autograph? Take your candy?
if fed had a decent opponent in 2004, federer wouldn't have 13 slams.
******* and hewitt were and still are crap on clay. ddick avoided most clay events and couldn't serve with disguise or good direction, but the weak era was so bad that he was ranked #2 FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
if ddick was so good, how come he failed to beat top 10 players in davis cup ties? nadal's serve is never consistent on hardcourts, but even he could beat top 10 opponents in davis cup ties and the olympics.
federer failed to win olympic medals in 2 olympics and he knew davis cup ties would've distracted him from getting lucky in the 2004 & 2007 wimbledon finals, 2009 french open, 2009 wimbledon final and 2010 australian open.
:shock: Fed is the man!
I got to see Fed Rafa WTF 2011 from row B in Fed's backhand corner. That amazing inside out FH came right at me.
I paid £24, the WTF is ther best tennis event ever for real fans!
Bring it on next year.