No1e's Racquet

Mateo

Rookie
What is the head size on this racquet? . . . I couldn't understand transfer from 630 head size (the first one -speed white one) pro model to today's IG speed that has 645.
If it is Radical mold how did the head size change....? :confused:

thanks
 

Mateo

Rookie
Radical liquidmetal MP is 630 head size as I can see on the net, I am just curious what mold is now in action if the head is 645'?
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Radical liquidmetal MP is 630 head size as I can see on the net, I am just curious what mold is now in action if the head is 645'?

Mateo, brate, sta si se uvatio za 645???
The head size is just like Radical MP = 630.
 

Mateo

Rookie
Mateo, brate, sta si se uvatio za 645???
The head size is just like Radical MP = 630.
Ok it is clear now because Head is saying that Novak is playing with MP model speed ig and head size is 645...so I thought that he switched to little bigger head size comparing to last year model of speed pro (630).
(gdje si bmw brate, nisam znao dali je glava reketa ista ili veca, hvala na pomoci.)
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Ok it is clear now because Head is saying that Novak is playing with MP model speed ig and head size is 645...so I thought that he switched to little bigger head size comparing to last year model of speed pro (630).
(gdje si bmw brate, nisam znao dali je glava reketa ista ili veca, hvala na pomoci.)

Head is full of "stuff"...
Just like Wilson and others...
Nole's racket has nothing to do with what Head Advertizes ;)
 

Mateo

Rookie
Head is full of "stuff"...
Just like Wilson and others...
Nole's racket has nothing to do with what Head Advertizes ;)
Yes I know about Head marketing lies, of course when you see thread like this than it is confirmed that it is always the same ''all about money''.
Thanks to Fabfed...
Any way how the IG Speed MP plays? is it worth to demo that racquet?
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Not sure if anyone else caught this but if you look at the end of grommet channel it NOW ends with U like LM Radical while all white paintjob before this Innegra one Nole had different mold with channel ending with square ala TI Radical
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
MG Radical MP was is a "U". Other than that it is the same mold as the Ti./i.Radical MP Moould.

That is what I was saying...can it be a same mold with different channel ending?
To me its clear that he changed racket to a different/ similar mold.
Look at before:
1zp5c9f.jpg


Look at after:
NoleR2.jpg


It might still be very similar setup since I am sure nice folks at HEAD can make it so but still I claim that he changed thus all his current results are doe to a U :) j/k j/k

What I was trying to say that it is possible that its a different racket now that what it was with white Speed paint. We already know that balance is different.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
That is what I was saying...can it be a same mold with different channel ending?
To me its clear that he changed racket to a different/ similar mold.
Look at before:
1zp5c9f.jpg


Look at after:
NoleR2.jpg


It might still be very similar setup since I am sure nice folks at HEAD can make it so but still I claim that he changed thus all his current results are doe to a U :) j/k j/k

What I was trying to say that it is possible that its a different racket now that what it was with white Speed paint. We already know that balance is different.

you are onto something here!
It is like the TGK238.x and PT57A molds -- the 57A has that canal ending slighty longer. Does that make it a different mold even though other differences are not seen?
 

JediMindTrick

Hall of Fame
I don't know if this was mentioned before but Nole's racquet has only one bottom cross inside the outer mains, like the PT 630 and the LM Radical MP, while the Speed MP 18x20 has two bottom crosses inside the outer mains. This confirms what the experts have been saying all along, Nole's racquet has nothing to do with any Speed racquet.
 

ghia

Rookie
Sorry to mix with the on going discussion...but..if zou look closelz to the 2 photos, it seems to me that the string combo is not the same (or is just the light and perspective that disturbes mz view):
On the white speed it seems that the white strings (VS) are in the crosses and not the mains as for the black IG speed below.:confused::-?, and the silver+ish luxilon viceversa:confused::confused::confused
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
> You can have it for just $1000

What country is it being sold out of? It didn't turn up in a US search.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
The URL doesn't work because it was shortened (see the second ellipsis).
 
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movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Okay, I did see that on the US site.

Only problem is that there isn't enough room to add a huge amount of lead tape.
 

carlos djackal

Professional
yes u were, u win a hit with the racquet! :D

Jokes aside, I'm trying to get a i.Radical MP for a comparison so hopefully more pics. And u were right about the grip.


Fabfed, congratulations for a very nice thread and thank you for sharing, it gave us tennis fanatics firsthand information to the real specs of our favorite pro player's set up and specs.

I was wondering since I am not an expert on Head rackets and I did not have the chance to have the Ti radical and i.radical rackets. Is there any chance that Novak's current stick is of the same mold as the Head LM radical MP which is still on sale at TW which Novak used in 2005?
 
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BobFL

Hall of Fame
Fabfed, congratulations for a very nice thread and thank you for sharing, it gave us tennis fanatics firsthand information to the real specs of our favorite pro player's set up and specs.

I was wondering since I am not an expert on Head rackets and I did not have the chance to have the Ti radical and i.radical rackets. Is there any chance that Novak's current stick is of the same mold as the Head LM radical MP which is still on sale at TW which Novak used in 2005?

Mold yes but layup no...
 

carlos djackal

Professional
Fabfed, I'm one of the hundreds waiting for the comparison on the radicals, i hope you can have one in your possession soon..........thanks
 

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
Was messin around with the specs of a MG Radical (mine was matched to the posted specs on TW's site)

If you took a stock Radical and did this to it, you'd get something similar to the djokovic setup.

I'm considering giving it a try, out of curiosity (my main stick now is the speed 16x19, like to play with the Rad sometimes tho)

djokovic-racquet.jpg
 

Mateo

Rookie
Was messin around with the specs of a MG Radical (mine was matched to the posted specs on TW's site)

If you took a stock Radical and did this to it, you'd get something similar to the djokovic setup.

I'm considering giving it a try, out of curiosity (my main stick now is the speed 16x19, like to play with the Rad sometimes tho)

djokovic-racquet.jpg

Great specs, if it is not a problem, can you explain where to put the lead tape on the racquet to get this specs that are in the calculation table? (how much in the handle and on 3&9)

Thanks!
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I've been using Nole's setup for a few days - 32 inches (2 x 1/4) around the hoop with some overlap at 3/9. I only found this out when I took off the CAP grommets last night and found 12 inches of lead tape at the top. That plus the 20 inches on the inner hoop covers most of the hoop excluding the throat.

This is off a tgk238.4 XL and the total static weight is about 377 grams. It feels slightly less powerful than my heaviest KPS88 (13.3 ounces) - probably due to the difference in stiffness or maybe it's just taking me time to adjust.

The racquet has everything - power, control, touch, comfort, and feel. I played with it for 2.5 hours yesterday and let's just say that the running and weightlifting help to support the use of this beast.
 

PED

Legend
I've been using Nole's setup for a few days - 32 inches (2 x 1/4) around the hoop with some overlap at 3/9. I only found this out when I took off the CAP grommets last night and found 12 inches of lead tape at the top. That plus the 20 inches on the inner hoop covers most of the hoop excluding the throat.

Sounds like a monster setup :twisted:

Interesting that Nole has lead almost all around the hoop: it seems like it would somewhat mimic the effect of CAPS.

I wonder how it would play if you compensated by backing out the weight of the CAPS and added just that differential of lead to the hoop.

It might bring down the static closer to Nole's 363g and make it a touch more "user friendly".


Let me know how it goes, I would imagine your setup just CRUSHES the ball!
 

CDestroyer

Professional
I've been using Nole's setup for a few days - 32 inches (2 x 1/4) around the hoop with some overlap at 3/9. I only found this out when I took off the CAP grommets last night and found 12 inches of lead tape at the top. That plus the 20 inches on the inner hoop covers most of the hoop excluding the throat.

This is off a tgk238.4 XL and the total static weight is about 377 grams. It feels slightly less powerful than my heaviest KPS88 (13.3 ounces) - probably due to the difference in stiffness or maybe it's just taking me time to adjust.

The racquet has everything - power, control, touch, comfort, and feel. I played with it for 2.5 hours yesterday and let's just say that the running and weightlifting help to support the use of this beast.

Movdqa,

Is the swingweight is around 360 or so?
 

DannyJK

New User
Molds & Layups

Hi, could someone be so kind to give me a brief explination/defination of what is meant by Molds and Layups and the difference between them please?
 

wings56

Hall of Fame
serbian on my team has novak's racquet with LM pj. the lead is injected or in the frame. i will try to attain it and post pics and specs to go along with this thread.
 

SandV

New User
serbian on my team has novak's racquet with LM pj. the lead is injected or in the frame. i will try to attain it and post pics and specs to go along with this thread.



Mr. vsbabolat, is this ever a step in racquet production?
 

Hidious

Professional
Hi, could someone be so kind to give me a brief explination/defination of what is meant by Molds and Layups and the difference between them please?

The mold is the shape of the frame, it's geometry, while the layup is the composition of the frame i.e the material mix used to produce it. You can have 2 racquets from the same mold (they would look exactly the same) but one could be very flexible with a muted feel while the other is very stiff and harsh feeling, because of the different materials used in the composition.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Mr. vsbabolat, is this ever a step in racquet production?

COuld be in production, could be injected later during customization... I have seen both.

Since Djokovic has totally custom layup, anything is possible...however, I would expect that in that early PJ, it would be customized that way...
 

wings56

Hall of Fame
i got permission to get the frame and take pictures and get the specs and whatnot. ill try to get on it asap. hopefully tomorrow.
 

DannyJK

New User
The mold is the shape of the frame, it's geometry, while the layup is the composition of the frame i.e the material mix used to produce it. You can have 2 racquets from the same mold (they would look exactly the same) but one could be very flexible with a muted feel while the other is very stiff and harsh feeling, because of the different materials used in the composition.

Great explination, much appreciated :D
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Mr. vsbabolat, is this ever a step in racquet production?

I have not heard of injecting lead into a racquet. I have heard of injecting silicone, PU Foam, and injecting epoxy with metal pieces in it such as screws and what not.
 

Cheetah

Hall of Fame
Man these fabfed threads are insane. I would sooooooooo love just to be in the same room with any of these rackets. just amazing.
thanks fabfed. highly appreciated.
 

rb__11

Rookie
When can you put a Ti. Radical and Nole's racquet side by side?
And you could tell us the sw of the racquet please.
 
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