Biomimetic Max 200G

Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
Picked up one of these today at the TW tent. Preliminary specs:

Headsize: 98
Weight (strung): 11.7
Stiffness: 66
String Pattern: 16x19
Grip: Dunlop Leather

More to follow once I get it home later today.

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Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
I posted a query for the specs in the comments forum, so you can stay tuned there for a response from TW themselves. The Dunlop rep said these frames won't be available until April.
 
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Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Agent Orynge said:
Picked up one of these today at the TW tent. Preliminary specs:

Headsize: 98
Weight (strung): 11.7
Stiffness: 66
String Pattern: 16x19
Grip: Dunlop Leather

More to follow once I get it home later today.
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I hate you!:)

Several of us from the "Pro's Racquets and Gear" section have been salivating over the potential release of this one for some time. This means that finally, Dunlop is giving us Dunlop 300 lovers a heavier version. I already know that it's the HM, MFil, and Bio. mold. I hit the HM 300G for five years. Any way you could post a pic or two?
 
Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
Looks exactly the same as the one J. Mac was wielding in the photo, near as I can tell. Yes, I'll see if I can put something up later today when I have a real camera handy.

It looks like the Pacific was no match for your Londons, P1. Do you think this could be the end for them?
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
Agent Orynge said:
Picked up one of these today at the TW tent. Preliminary specs:

Headsize: 98
Weight (strung): 11.7
Stiffness: 66
String Pattern: 16x19
Grip: Dunlop Leather

More to follow once I get it home later today.
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OMG, tremendous looking specs (though, clearly that doesn't always add up).

What is he beam width?
 
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Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Agent Orynge said:
Looks exactly the same as the one J. Mac was wielding in the photo, near as I can tell. Yes, I'll see if I can put something up later today when I have a real camera handy.

It looks like the Pacific was no match for your Londons, P1. Do you think this could be the end for them?
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I just got a Pacific demo in the mail again today, with the Melbourne, X-325, and IG Prestige MP. But then you do this, and it's all moot. Moot I say! I think that all four of these demos that I have today could be a match for my Londons, as they spec out perfect for me and perform incredibly. But the real issue now is the blinding realization that nothing will match this new Bio. 300, imo. They can call it a Max 200 if they want, but it's a HM, Mfil, Bio 300 mold with some weight. I will preorder without a demo for the first time in my life.

bluetrain4 said:
OMG, tremendous looking specs (though, clearly that doesn't always add up).

What is he beam width?
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I'm almost positive either 21 or 22, maybe 21.55.
 
mrmike

mrmike

Semi-Pro
The RA number of 66 seems a little high for a racquet Mac would use. Sometimes the number does not always correlate 1:1 with comfort / softness though.
 
Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
mrmike said:
The RA number of 66 seems a little high for a racquet Mac would use. Sometimes the number does not always correlate 1:1 with comfort / softness though.
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That's been my experience with recent Dunlop offerings with middling stiffness, such as the 200 Lite. I imagine this one will be just as soft, despite the rating of 66 (which is what's printed on the frame).

Gentlemen, I assure you there will be pics. The good folks at TW are stringing it up for me whilst I take in some live tennis on court 1. Patience!
 
Rock Strongo

Rock Strongo

Legend
Agent Orynge said:
That's been my experience with recent Dunlop offerings with middling stiffness, such as the 200 Lite. I imagine this one will be just as soft, despite the rating of 66 (which is what's printed on the frame).

Gentlemen, I assure you there will be pics. The good folks at TW are stringing it up for me whilst I take in some live tennis on court 1. Patience!
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Then I have to tell you this: have a VERY good day and hope you'll see some great tennis!
 
6-2/6-4/6-0

6-2/6-4/6-0

Semi-Pro
Why not call it a Biomimetic 300G rather than a Biomimetic Max200G?

Mac has used the 300G mold for years, he's almost as well known for that as he is for the Max200G, and it would be more accurate as to where it fits in the range. Sure, they've taken the aesthetic from the Max200G and employed that on the 300-series frame, but I don't think that is expressly a reason to call it a 200 or to use the Max moniker (which is tied, in my opinion, very specifically to the IMF process [obviously used with compression molded frames like the Black Max, but if you use that nomenclature, this racket should still be called a Biomimetic 300Max]).

If I end up getting one or two of these, I'm going to send them to my paint guy and have him re-stencil them to say Biomimetic 300G... Take that Dunlop... Wait that would be stupid and pointlessly expensive... Nevermind...
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I'm in Illinois, but my parents are in Phoenix. I should really send them over to IW to pick up goodies in the TW tent. It's under 4 hours and they like to drive. Lol.
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
6-2/6-4/6-0 said:
Why not call it a Biomimetic 300G rather than a Biomimetic Max200G?

Mac has used the 300G mold for years, he's almost as well known for that as he is for the Max200G, and it would be more accurate as to where it fits in the range. Sure, they've taken the aesthetic from the Max200G and employed that on the 300-series frame, but I don't think that is expressly a reason to call it a 200 or to use the Max moniker (which is tied, in my opinion, very specifically to the IMF process [obviously used with compression molded frames like the Black Max, but if you use that nomenclature, this racket should still be called a Biomimetic 300Max]).

If I end up getting one or two of these, I'm going to send them to my paint guy and have him re-stencil them to say Biomimetic 300G... Take that Dunlop... Wait that would be stupid and pointlessly expensive... Nevermind...
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I agree, but purely from a marketing/business perpsective, I understand why they're doing it. Also, doesn't it weigh substantially more than the 300, even the 300 Tour?
 
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tom4ny

tom4ny

Professional
my guess is that this will be a lower powered frame than the 300 series, hence the 200 designation.

my second guess is that they already have a number of pro's and talented upcoming juniors to pimp the 300 line so they will use mac to pimp the 200 line.

likely both are factors.

i have a couple of 300's and now the bio 300t is my main frame so i doubt that i will switch but i do like the spec as listed and will likely end up getting one. it is all very exciting and i do think that the bio line is underrated - this may be the frame that get's the line the attention it deserves (imho).
 
Shangri La

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
Agent Orynge said:
That's been my experience with recent Dunlop offerings with middling stiffness, such as the 200 Lite. I imagine this one will be just as soft, despite the rating of 66 (which is what's printed on the frame).

Gentlemen, I assure you there will be pics. The good folks at TW are stringing it up for me whilst I take in some live tennis on court 1. Patience!
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That'll make it 64 strung. This is getting me really interested.. just hope the sw isnt too high.
 
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Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Shangri La said:
That'll make it 64 strung. This is getting me really interested.. just hope the sw isnt too high.
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The Bio. 300 (regular) is rated at 66 as well. I've demoed it twice, this last time with a poly/syn. gut hybrid, and I thought that it was plush---slightly firmer than the London. Interesting indeed!
 
Deuces Wild

Deuces Wild

Rookie
Pneumated1 said:
The Bio. 300 (regular) is rated at 66 as well. I've demoed it twice, this last time with a poly/syn. gut hybrid, and I thought that it was plush---slightly firmer than the London. Interesting indeed!
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I've put a Volkl leather grip on my Bio 300. Looks and plays fantastic. I play with a full bed of poly and it's still comfortable.
 
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Shangri La

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
Pneumated1 said:
The Bio. 300 (regular) is rated at 66 as well. I've demoed it twice, this last time with a poly/syn. gut hybrid, and I thought that it was plush---slightly firmer than the London. Interesting indeed!
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The Bio Max's specs look perfect to me, a spectard :) The leather grip saves me 0.2-0.3oz of weight I would otherwise have to add if replacing a stock synthetic grip with a leather one, and 10 dollars.

Not sure if it's a Bio line thing or what, but when I demoed the Bio 400 Tour which is listed 66 strung, it played more flexible than that for me.
 
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Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
ToneDaBass said:
I'll be there Wednesday, will you still be there?

What is the price on the racquet? Do you think they will they run out before Wednesday?
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Nah, just today. I snagged it for $180 out the door, I'm sure they won't run out. I think people will hardly notice them. I had to do a doubletake myself.
 
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Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Deuces Wild said:
I've put a Volkl leather grip on my Bio 300. Looks and plays fantastic. I play with a full bed of poly and it's still comfortable.
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On the demo, I put a TW leather, 6 grams at 3/9, and head tape covering the bumper, and I was ready to buy the frame. Quite honestly, I've been holding out for this rumored Bio. McEnroe "200." And I did think that this one deserved the heaviest leather that TW sells, as well: Volkl.

Shangri La said:
The Bio Max's specs look perfect to me, a spectard :) The leather grip saves me 0.2-0.3oz of weight I would otherwise have to add if replacing a stock synthetic grip with a leather one, and 10 dollars.

Not sure if it's a Bio line thing or what, but when I demoed the Bio 400 Tour which is listed 66 strung, it played more flexible than that for me.
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I'm with you. I like when the weight and layup of the frame already accommodates a leather grip (Prestige Pro, e.g.). I can't explain it either. Maybe it's the "hexagonal sheets of high modulus carbon fiber.":) Not sure, but having hit the old 300G for five years, something is different and it works: more stable, comfortable, slight hint of flex, but maintaining a med. stiffness.

What's your setup?
 
JGads

JGads

G.O.A.T.
316 swingweight. Johnny Mac's signature at 3 o'clock on both sides (not at 9 on either side). Beautiful frame. Snagged one.
 
JGads

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Agent Orynge said:
You're at IW and didn't bother to say "hello" to me? I am disappoint.
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Dude, I cannot get my phone to work properly at the courts for the life of me. Can call/text, but Internet/emailing on my phone isn't happening. You there tomorrow? If so send me an email through your profile w your cell.
 
JGads

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Agent Orynge said:
I won't be here tomorrow, but I'll swing by the front of the TW tent after the Roddick match if you're still around.
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No longer around (hence being able to use the net now); sorry man, would have been cool to meet a fellow boardie. If ever on the west side of LA hit me up, maybe we could even hit one day somewhere. Cheers, buddy.
 
Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
Sorry guys, I had been up since 2 AM yesterday and crashed when I got back home. I'm also sorry that I'm not terribly good at this photo business, so let me know if you have any requests.

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Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
Additional specs printed on frame:

Unstrung Balance: 320mm
Unstrung Weight: 313g
Length: 27"
Grip: Dunlop Tour Classic
Tension: 55-65 lbs.
Construction: HM6 Carbon

My own measurements:

Weight: 327g, strung - no OG / dampener
Balance: 4-5 points headlight
Beam Width: 21mm
 
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un6a

Semi-Pro
Nice looking frame and specs looks like the racquet was designed for me :)
If strung SW will be around 315 then i will get one for sure.
 
Agent Orynge

Agent Orynge

Professional
un6a said:
Nice looking frame and specs looks like the racquet was designed for me :)
If strung SW will be around 315 then i will get one for sure.
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It feels very substantial in the hand and through the air so far. I'll let you guys know how it feels when I get a swing with it, hopefully either today or tomorrow.
 
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ToneDaBass

New User
If anyone lives along the route between Palm Springs and Santa Barbara and wants me to pick them up one of these, send me an email at ToneDaBass at hotmail dot com with your phone number, and we can chat on the phone and see what I can do for you. I'll be at Indian Wells on Wednesday.
 
coolblue123

coolblue123

Hall of Fame
that is one slick looking stick! specs are very similar to a London indeed. looking forward to hear how the stick hits.
 
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