What if no one won??

adamX012

Rookie
Scholars have successfully argued for years that this scenario is not only possible, but is increasingly likely in light of the ever improving level of competition on the professional tour. However, the current protracted economic downturn and the resulting volatile political climate have led others to believe that tournament organizers and sponsors would stop at nothing to ensure that the ticket purchasing public gets an opportunity to congratulate a winner, even if that means undermining the very fabric of the sport by shifting to a champion appointment model. If we are to take the opponents of the traditional view at their word, we have further proof that sporting traditions and public trust have little or no weight against the vested interests or the corrupt public officials who represent them in violation of their sworn duty.

Question for you, Mr. Sobad? Are you copying of my lecture notes from my Inspirational speech in Oct? Hard to breath while reading your school of thought. It's a catcy post!!!
 

infonoob

New User
Question for you, Mr. Sobad? Are you copying of my lecture notes from my Inspirational speech in Oct? Hard to breath while reading your school of thought. It's a catcy post!!!

Maybe we should switch to an electoral college system to elect a tournament winner!
 

heycal

Hall of Fame
organizers and sponsors would stop at nothing to ensure that the ticket purchasing public gets an opportunity to congratulate a winner, even if that means undermining the very fabric of the sport by shifting to a champion appointment model.

Exactly. The Champion Appointment model represents a huge threat to our sport, yet you don't see many people willing to admit it.
 

Andres

G.O.A.T.
Looks like your future self jumped into a time-space portal and changed the score of your said match so that you would win!
Nope! he actually slip and fell during an attempt of a passing shot. His passing shot was successful, but he suffered a right thigh tear. He couldn't keep playing, so I went through. Yet he won the last point ;)
 

dParis

Hall of Fame
I thought it was "inevitable" that Serena would slap that Aussie back to Auckland last night -- and we see how that turned out!

I'm less certain about what will happen at the Australian Open.
There goes that Aussie back to Auckland. :shock: If no one were to win, it will happen on the WTA first.

Where the in the hell are they playing this year's Australian Open, anyhow?
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
Exactly. The Champion Appointment model represents a huge threat to our sport, yet you don't see many people willing to admit it.

How can this be? The Champion Appointment model has been in effect since the very beginnings of tennis. To change it IS to change the very fabric of all we know to be tennis. Ask yourself: "How else would it be possible that every tennis tournament to date has had one winner?" This is not mere plausibility, possibility or playability. It's always been pose-ability. Remember, tennis started as the game of kings. No one in their right mind, or more aptly said, no who wishes to keep their "mind" intact, would fail to deliver the victory to the king. It is good to be king!
 
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woodrow1029

Guest
"How else would it be possible that every tennis tournament to date has had one winner?"

Well, that's not completely correct. In 2000 (I think), the Scottsdale WTA Final between Hingis and Davenport was not played due to rain and they split championship points for that tournament. So two players won that tournament. :)
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Nope! he actually slip and fell during an attempt of a passing shot. His passing shot was successful, but he suffered a right thigh tear. He couldn't keep playing, so I went through. Yet he won the last point ;)
The only intelligent post in this thread !
 

Fugazi

Professional
I seriously doubt that anyone can win the AO this year... Nadal has physical issues, Federer has a soft back, Murray has about 12 different injuries (judging from all the self-grabbing in the 1st round), Djokovic has had shoulder issues. And since nobody out of the top four can realistically expect to beat these guys, I really can't see anyone winning this year. I mean maybe, MAYBE if Raonic hires Tony Nadal and plays left handed from the quarterfinals on, but that's a bit of a stretch. The real question is: will there be at least one semifinalist?
 

TonLars

Professional
Of course this is a troll thread, but its really not that funny since there will always be a winner. If both players in a draw match are both hurt, the one who quits first loses, and the other wins. There will always be a winner in every match.
 

heycal

Hall of Fame
I seriously doubt that anyone can win the AO this year... Nadal has physical issues, Federer has a soft back, Murray has about 12 different injuries (judging from all the self-grabbing in the 1st round), Djokovic has had shoulder issues. And since nobody out of the top four can realistically expect to beat these guys, I really can't see anyone winning this year. I mean maybe, MAYBE if Raonic hires Tony Nadal and plays left handed from the quarterfinals on, but that's a bit of a stretch. The real question is: will there be at least one semifinalist?

I really don't know. Sometimes, I must admit, I wonder if I'm wrong about all this. Maybe there always will be a winner. It's hard for me to dismiss the fact that every tournament so far has produced a winner, and perhaps there's a very good reason for that. Time and time again it seems to happen.

I just don't know anymore. I will have to think some more on this.
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
Well, that's not completely correct. In 2000 (I think), the Scottsdale WTA Final between Hingis and Davenport was not played due to rain and they split championship points for that tournament. So two players won that tournament. :)

And what happened? The world nearly exploded and Dumbledore died. Fortunately, Dr. Who had aN awfully clever fix by turning the ****is into a Wibbely Wobbely Paradigm Machine. You should note that fortunately no virus filled pungent zombies have arisen to take over the land and no tournaments since have had this arrangement.
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heycal

Hall of Fame
I really don't know. Sometimes, I must admit, I wonder if I'm wrong about all this. Maybe there always will be a winner. It's hard for me to dismiss the fact that every tournament so far has produced a winner, and perhaps there's a very good reason for that. Time and time again it seems to happen.

I just don't know anymore. I will have to think some more on this.

Now it's happened again. Hmm.
 

Fugazi

Professional
While the "no winner" scenario did not materialize (yet), Djokovic clearly stated in his post-match ceremony speech that there were two winners... That's a start.
 
So, I was recently watching a Djoker match when a thought popped up in my head. Now Djokovic is pretty damn good and is number 1 on the South African Airways ATP ranking system. Can't get much better than that. But WHAT IF someone surpasses Djoker's skill level and starts winning everything? If Djoker is number 1, the ranking system would have to accommodate this higher level player and the new player would have to be ranked 0 to be ahead of Djoker's No. 1 rank.

A 0th ranked player has never happened before, but I think it may happen soon. With the Second Coming of The Golden Eagle sexiclass fedmeister, there may indeed be a 0th ranked player. But where does the ranking system stop? It may be the case we will have to start using negative numbers to accommodate for EVEN HIGHER skill levels that cannot be imagined right now. With Ivan Lendel's recent fusion with Andy Murray (similar to Vegito), I have a feeling we will be seeing many of these negative ranked players very soon.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
May I wish everyone a happy President's Day here? Please let me know if my comment was inappropriate.
 

heycal

Hall of Fame
So, I was recently watching a Djoker match when a thought popped up in my head. Now Djokovic is pretty damn good and is number 1 on the South African Airways ATP ranking system. Can't get much better than that. But WHAT IF someone surpasses Djoker's skill level and starts winning everything? If Djoker is number 1, the ranking system would have to accommodate this higher level player and the new player would have to be ranked 0 to be ahead of Djoker's No. 1 rank.

A 0th ranked player has never happened before, but I think it may happen soon. With the Second Coming of The Golden Eagle sexiclass fedmeister, there may indeed be a 0th ranked player. But where does the ranking system stop? It may be the case we will have to start using negative numbers to accommodate for EVEN HIGHER skill levels that cannot be imagined right now. With Ivan Lendel's recent fusion with Andy Murray (similar to Vegito), I have a feeling we will be seeing many of these negative ranked players very soon.

Good post.

May I wish everyone a happy President's Day here? Please let me know if my comment was inappropriate.

Well, I'm sure your comment was offensive to some, but I don't believe in censoring, or censuring, people for expressing their thoughts.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Well, I'm sure your comment was offensive to some, but I don't believe in censoring, or censuring, people for expressing their thoughts.

Yep, with some people it's like "hello, Constitution!"

FYI, it's been officially renamed "dubya day".

My message was only directed as intended. It is not a carte blanche to the Wall Street crooks to jump into bed with the K-street fatcats who love nothing more than rubbing elbows with the elected-for-sale officials looking to take advantage of the event to please the bleeding-heart constituency back home.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
When the TW mods delete heycal's "magnum opus thread" because of this political discussion, he's going to go "dubya".

It will still be sort of funny for the rest of us however.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
There is no political discussion here, just exchanging some holiday greetings. To that end, happy upcoming Red Army Day, everyone – no one weeping on Papa Makhno’s grave around here for sure!

Back to the topic, the French this year is a lock for Nadal, but Wimbledon could be up in the air. The Serb is knocking on the door these days.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
I am not sure if discussions involving alcohol are appropriate on this forum. I purchased a reel of white Yonex overgrips last month and loved them - they were just as high quality as the reel I bought the month before. I would appreciate knowledgeable comments from high level players on this issue.
 

TourTenor

Professional
Seeing as how this thread seems to be the receptacle for brilliant ideas ...

... the alcohol discussion got me thinking about the old fake binoculars the held about a pint of whiskey. Why not create a tennis racquet of a similar nature? Yes, whenever you hit a fantastic winner and your opponent yells, "Nice shot" ... remove the grip and take a nice shot of your favorite beverage.
:shock:

If you both have said racquets there would be two (or no) winners!

You're welcome.
 

dParis

Hall of Fame
When the TW mods delete heycal's "magnum opus thread" because of this political discussion, he's going to go "dubya".

It will still be sort of funny for the rest of us however.
What if no one won?? has laid waste to a great deal of valuable bandwidth during its dubious existence, yet it remains. I'm sure it will endure these times, as well.

It would take a legion of Tennis Mavericks to quash this thread.
 

maleyoyo

Professional
What if no one won?? has laid waste to a great deal of valuable bandwidth during its dubious existence, yet it remains. I'm sure it will endure these times, as well.

It would take a legion of Tennis Mavericks to quash this thread.

Yep. This thread is LIN-touchable.
 

woodrow1029

Hall of Fame
I know it's only 6 games, but I wonder if any of the 64 teams in the NCAA Basketball Tournament will be able to win 6 games in a row. It might not happen this year. I had thought that Kentucky and Syracuse were the only two with a good shot at winning it all, but then they both lost last week. I'm not sure if either of them can do it now, but I don't know if any of the other teams will be able to beat Kentucky or Syracuse.

It's going to be very tough for any team to win 6 games this year! We will see if someone can do it.
 

thug the bunny

Professional
Oh no. No. Noooooo!

I'm actually starting to enjoy this thread.

All, please don't let reality impinge upon absurdity.

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are indeed dead. So where is Godot?
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
I know it's only 6 games, but I wonder if any of the 64 teams in the NCAA Basketball Tournament will be able to win 6 games in a row. It might not happen this year. I had thought that Kentucky and Syracuse were the only two with a good shot at winning it all, but then they both lost last week. I'm not sure if either of them can do it now, but I don't know if any of the other teams will be able to beat Kentucky or Syracuse.

It's going to be very tough for any team to win 6 games this year! We will see if someone can do it.

And you're not even talking about one player. I can't even begin to imagine the logistics behind trying to make an entire team of individuals winners. One person is bad enough!
 

woodrow1029

Hall of Fame
And you're not even talking about one player. I can't even begin to imagine the logistics behind trying to make an entire team of individuals winners. One person is bad enough!

And the thing is, even if Kentucky and Syracuse manage to win 5 games in a row, I dont' know if either one will be able to win that 6th one.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Seeing as how this thread seems to be the receptacle for brilliant ideas ...

... the alcohol discussion got me thinking about the old fake binoculars the held about a pint of whiskey. Why not create a tennis racquet of a similar nature? Yes, whenever you hit a fantastic winner and your opponent yells, "Nice shot" ... remove the grip and take a nice shot of your favorite beverage.
:shock:

If you both have said racquets there would be two (or no) winners!

You're welcome.

The problem with these people is like everything else – everyone is spending every last penny on branding and marketing and stuff that basically rips off the consumer. Design and manufacturing are an afterthought, apparently. I’d like a glass of whiskey, but how do you know who to trust anymore…
 
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