So is it the instinct mold or mg radical mold?
ooops, sorry, I read it wrong. I thought drak would know better. It has NOTHING to do with the Instict mold (I read LM Rad without ridges)...
You're getting old, eye sight is going, alzheimer's kicking in....
Does anyone know the code for the liquid metal instinct grommets?
I did however, string two finalists racquets, including the woman's champion.
Seeing as you possibly got a closer look at the grommets, if the other finalist you're referring to is indeed Novak, I'd appreciate to hear any knowledge or any theories you might have.
For the record, I do mildly believe, that it is a Radical MP mold from years back based on the head shape, but the certain differences will always keep me doubtful and open to other assumptions.
Can you please tell us what the differences are (except the PJ)?
I noted them in my first post, but I understand I'm being very picky.
"but I was just wondering if someone familiar with this topic could clarify something, since the beam width of his racquet in the pictures provided by Fabfed, is wider (looks to be 22mm) than the retail Speed, which has a listed beam width of 21/20/21mm. Now, I checked the listed specs of the Ti, i, MG, and LM radicals and they all have a listed beam width of 21mm themselves. So is it just likely that his actual mold is the Radical MP mold from 1999-2007 with the possibility of just a wider beam width?
I also recall some people saying (in previous threads) that the bridge area on his racquet is actually different from the MG Radical MP mold. If the MG Radical MP mold is the same as the Ti, i, and LM Radical MP molds, why is it that some people claim the MG Radical MP has a different bridge design compared to the other racquets (I can't say for myself, I only own the LM Radical MP). Also, why would Novak's racquet have a different bridge if it's 100% spot on the same exact Radical MP mold used in the racquets I mentioned previously?"
The first one is just a guess -- it could be an optical illusion due to different colors and patterns. I actually have both (MG Rad MP and IG Speed MP) and will check, but I could have sworn that the Radical is definitely wider (looks that way). I always thought that the Prestiges were 21mm and Radicals 22mm straight?
The bridge on the MG Radical MP and Novak's actual racket looks identical to me.
Yeah, the Radical MP molds from that era, MG and LM, have a listed beam width of 21mm, same with the Prestiges. I'll check my LM, but it looks to be the same width as the Prestiges.
Now, about the bridge, I've read some posts where people claim the bridge on a MG Radical MP gets slimmer along the middle main strings area (IIrc I found this to be true with MG Radical MPs I've held before, granted I don't have any right now to confirm), while for Novak's racquet, the bridge width remains constant.
Again, I know I'm being very picky. :neutral:
Seeing as you possibly got a closer look at the grommets, if the other finalist you're referring to is indeed Novak, I'd appreciate to hear any knowledge or any theories you might have.
For the record, I do mildly believe, that it is a Radical MP mold from years back based on the head shape, but the certain differences will always keep me doubtful and open to other assumptions.
I could tell you without a shadow of a doubt the grommet code on his and stepaneks frame do not match that of a Radical MP. Its hard to see what exactly is the code of his frame, but it is a variance of one of the following:
TK221, Tk231,or Tk281. or "7" replacing the "1". The "k" appears to be backwards. Also, the middle "2" is very hard to read so it could be a 2, 3, 6, 8.
Now, this does not necessarily mean it is not a Radical MP mold. Could very well be with a different code. Holding both racquets in my hands (the joker and stepanek) frame, one thing is for certain,,,,,,, they are identical. To me, they seemed to closely resemble the Instinct, minus the ridges, and a few other stringers agreed. The frame simply looks thicker than the radicals, which is why it seems to more closely resemble the Instinct.
Interesting observation, however, looking at the Fabfed's pictures, it has absolutely nothing to do with Instinct -- shape, thickness, throat. Not sure how you came up with that?
So, I looked and compared them tonight.
The MG Radical MP is DEFINITELY thicker in the Hoop, the throat area may be the same thickness (I did not measure). I believe the IG Speed is 21mm in the throat and 20 in the hoop.
I will measure if that helps.
I could tell you without a shadow of a doubt the grommet code on his and stepaneks frame do not match that of a Radical MP. Its hard to see what exactly is the code of his frame, but it is a variance of one of the following:
TK221, Tk231,or Tk281. or "7" replacing the "1". The "k" appears to be backwards. Also, the middle "2" is very hard to read so it could be a 2, 3, 6, 8.
Now, this does not necessarily mean it is not a Radical MP mold. Could very well be with a different code. Holding both racquets in my hands (the joker and stepanek) frame, one thing is for certain,,,,,,, they are identical. To me, they seemed to closely resemble the Instinct, minus the ridges, and a few other stringers agreed. The frame simply looks thicker than the radicals, which is why it seems to more closely resemble the Instinct.
because it looks thicker than a radical.
I could tell you without a shadow of a doubt the grommet code on his and stepaneks frame do not match that of a Radical MP.
I could tell you without a shadow of a doubt the grommet code on his and stepaneks frame do not match that of a Radical MP. Its hard to see what exactly is the code of his frame, but it is a variance of one of the following:
TK221, Tk231,or Tk281. or "7" replacing the "1". The "k" appears to be backwards. Also, the middle "2" is very hard to read so it could be a 2, 3, 6, 8.
Now, this does not necessarily mean it is not a Radical MP mold. Could very well be with a different code. Holding both racquets in my hands (the joker and stepanek) frame, one thing is for certain,,,,,,, they are identical. To me, they seemed to closely resemble the Instinct, minus the ridges, and a few other stringers agreed. The frame simply looks thicker than the radicals, which is why it seems to more closely resemble the Instinct.
Drak - did you string any H19's or h22's in Cincy? I have a pair of h19's in the 18 x 20 pattern and I've spoken with several guys on Wilson's tour stringing team - they tend to think that Novak is still indeed using the same h22 mold he used at wilson....according to them my h19's are wilsons version of the pt57a....anyways, just curious, Novaks frame looks identical to my h19s with a thicker beam....
Speaking of which, has it ever been confirmed that Nole used the h22 and not the h19?
The racquet just arrived today. I will take it to be one of Novak’s Wimbledon final sticks, unless Ron tells me otherwise. Some lead tape around the 3 & 9 o’clock positions stretching to 5 & 7 o'clock. Sorry about the pics, I’m busy with some work now, but I will take a ton of nicer, close up pics for you guys tonight
I will try to post a few pics of my h19's later and show how similar they "look" to Nole's racquet, string pattern, head shape, ect, weights are pretty close as well (I know that's not as big of a deal)....
but yea like I said, a couple guys I know string for the Wilson stringing team and they all commented that he used the h22....
Can't head sue Wilson for plagiarism??
It looks like Wilson copy racquets from head.
people say that they changed the mold for the new head speed that will be released in january 2013. Has head made the new version of the speed closer to what djokovic actually uses?
people say that they changed the mold for the new head speed that will be released in january 2013. Has head made the new version of the speed closer to what djokovic actually uses?
Does anyone else notice that the lead at the head of the racquet is not equal? Why is this?
What do you mean by that?
He saying the lead under the head guard isnt symmetrical
probably getting the right weight is most important.....?by 1/4 of an inch...
Whatever...makes no difference
probably getting the right weight is most important.....?
Actually it does to a pro
Just curious, is there a difference between white speed paint job frame and now black ig speed frame that Novak plays with?..On white paint job there is no lead placed on the head..
Just curious, is there a difference between white speed paint job frame and now black ig speed frame that Novak plays with?..On white paint job there is no lead placed on the head..
It is probably the same mold, however, Djokovic has changed his setup late 2010 as I recall when he added extra lead to the hoop.
I am almost certain that the white one had some lead under the black grommet.
Also, looks like the layup may have changed as the latest indication shows his stick to be around 60 RA
1/4 inch of 1/4 lead tape is 1/16 of a gram (1/8 if theres two strips).a quarter inch of lead tape is probably less than 1/2 g.
It does not matter!