We all got shot today.
Good for the young, the healthy, and the strong.
Bad for the old, the sickly, and the weak.
We all got the shot today.
May the battles begin.
Other way around. Oldies are in the high-risk category
http://www.***************/flu_vaccine.html
No flu shot for me. Had it once in my life and it made me sick. Never again. Most years I don't get the flu, and I'm not in a high risk group.
I disagree with the push to give the shot to people who aren't in high risk groups. I guess the logic is that less flu will be spread if all take the shots, but the shots have been hit-and-miss in terms of identifying which strain will hit big this fall and winter.
I'd advise to get the single-dose versions so you don't get mercury injected into your bloodstream if you want to get the flu shot.
I know this is falling on deaf ears, but it's not possible to get sick from the flu shot. The flu shot is an inactive virus. It is not possible to get sick from it. That is a fact. If you were sick, it was purely coincidence.
There is a very small chance that you might be allergic to the flu vaccine, but medically speaking, the virus cannot reproduce in your cells, making you sick like the an active influenza strain will.
I did get sick from the shot. I didn't say I got the flu, but I suffered a fever and aches and pains for days after the shot. The CDC says these are potential side effects. So, no, it wasn't purely coincidence that I went from feeling completely healthy to sick the day after getting the flu shot.
Our definitions of "sick" are different. Benign aches and a fever that last a day or two is not a sickness, in my opinion. Especially when you weigh those side effects against actually acquiring the flu. I guess we are just going to have to disagree.
Can't believe everything thats written on the internet. Why not try sites that are actually based on credible research-
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002025.htm
I've helped people who have received the vaccine yet still become quite sick, while I've only had symptoms that are like an annoying cold.
So how did you know you had the flu and not a cold?
I can't say with certainty(both caused by viruses), but since I was being exposed to the flu virus from being around people who had obvious flu-like symptoms, I just assumed that the virus-like symptoms I was experiencing were from the same virus.
But some years I've helped people who have received the vaccine yet still become quite sick, while I've only had symptoms that are like an annoying cold.
But by your own admission you didn't present with the same symptoms as the people you were helping.
Every year, the elderly get sicker, get new sicknesses, die from the new bugs introduced into their systems. Leave them well enough alone.
They young can handle the germs that are introduced into your body.
Most old folks don't die directly from the shots, but die from complications from the shot including pnumonia, added load to the immune system (that is already weak and suspect), and results from being more sick than they already are.
Leave them alone.
But by your own admission you didn't present with the same symptoms as the people you were helping.
Suresh. Every year, the flu shot KILL dozens of senior citizens. That is also well documented, and presented on Channel 4 news several times in the last 10 years.
Avles, you are not 75 years old, weak, old, tired, sick, and in need of constant assistance to perform life's basic chores.
What works for YOU, like daily exercise, eating steak, running and jumping, might not work for some elderly or the sick.
YOU think everything that works for you works for everyone else.
YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!
As I've stated previously, neither of us can be sure. However, it is wrong to think that everyone suffers as much from the same flu virus. People with weak or compromised immune systems can die from a seasonal flu. The rest of us suffer a lot, a little, or not at all.
You've had the flu and not suffered at all (had no symptoms)? I'll have to take your word on that. Or do you mean that you had the flu virus, but since you had the flu shot, your body was able to rid it from your body before you got sick with symptoms?
Generally speaking, flu's are more severe than colds.
I also think you can just check for fever. You might get a very mild fever with a cold (but usually not, unless you are a kid), but will always (nearly always?) have a fever with the flu.
This CDC article basically agrees with us both. It says that it is impossible to tell the two apart, but suggests common symptoms associated with each.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/coldflu.htm
The "science", like the politician, and the war monger tyrant, is willing to sacrifice a few for the good of the many.
Would you? If one of the few was your uncle?
What about if it was YOU?
When you dissect the “science,” you’ll quickly discover that the flu vaccine is not only extremely ineffective, but its necessity is overrated, and studies of safety are lacking.
I don't know where you get your information, but you must have read it backwards. The number of people who die from the flu every year is astounding. The number of people who die from the flu vaccine every year are coincidental cases. People over 65 are the ones who need protection from live influenza the most since without the antibodies already present, they're less likely to be strong enough to fight off the virus. In other words, you saying that the elderly are the most at risk of dying from the vaccine is likely true, but along the same line, they're the most likely to contract and die if they even get a mild strain of live influenza virus.In other words, you are willing to sacrifice a few for the good of the many.
The MMWR study also found that during seasons when influenza A (H3N2) viruses were prominent death rates were more than double what they were during seasons when influenza A (H1N1) or influenza B viruses predominated. In addition, the study confirmed previous findings that about 90% of influenza associated deaths occur among adults 65 years and older.
A doctor told me this "joke" a while back"
A man walks into the pharmacy and tells his pharmacist, "Doc, I have a terrible flu, what can you give me to make me feel better".
Pharmacist replies, "You don't have the flu, you have a cold".
Man asks, "How do you know that".
Pharmacist replies, "Because you're here".
Point being, when you have the flu (instead of a cold), you aren't up walking around. It really knocks you on your ***.
The further point is that people often mistake a (bad) cold for the flu.
Suresh. Every year, the flu shot KILL dozens of senior citizens. That is also well documented, and presented on Channel 4 news several times in the last 10 years.
The shot itself doesn't kill anyone. BUT, the effects of the shot, taking part of the immune system to combat the effects of the shot does, as it weakens the total immune system at a period of time when it's needed to fight off other diseases.
Say you're in old fart. OK, not U, but me. I have maybe 60% of the total resistance and immunity power of you. I'm old. I'm injured. I'm sick. I'm out of shape. I don't get regular exercise.
Now shoot me up with disease. Since I have only 60% to fight with, just combatting the new stuff you introduced into my body takes half of that. Now I have only THIRTY percent to fight off the germs that are already present in my body!
GET IT?
You don't, those stupid "experts" don't.
Remember, your scientists are so STUPID, they take a 103 year old sturgeon who lived in fresh water all it's life (LakeSonoma in Cal.), dump it into salt water, and it dies in ONE day!
For every 10 scientists, we need 10 people with COMMON SENSE.
Hmm, you DO get that introducing anything into your system that takes away some immunity you might need to live fight off what you already have is a sure sign of KILLING YOU, like execution, don't you?
All you guys who favor this vaccination are young. Wait till YOU are old, then let's see how YOU feel about it.
In your 30's, you're invincible. In your 60's, you're ONE small mistake from the grave.
Hmm, you DO get that introducing anything into your system that takes away some immunity you might need to live fight off what you already have is a sure sign of KILLING YOU, like execution, don't you?
All you guys who favor this vaccination are young. Wait till YOU are old, then let's see how YOU feel about it.
In your 30's, you're invincible. In your 60's, you're ONE small mistake from the grave.
And you're naive enough to think that dead virus particles, along with random flotsam and jetsam of various immunogenic activity gain entry into your body mostly through vaccination?