Hey side note watching the Space Shuttle yesterday was pretty awesome.
Hey Brad, I'm pretty sure the guys who made it happen went to college .
Hey side note watching the Space Shuttle yesterday was pretty awesome.
Well, the doubles win was a win, not a close loss. Deiton Baughman and T.J. Pura beat Georgia's Nathan Pasha and Beg Wagland 8-4. Not sure the Georgia duo can even claim they kept it all that close with a score like that. Just ask Dawgie Dawg on the college board; he will tell you that Nathan Pasha was the best college recruit a year ago, and Ben Wagland is the best recruit this year.
Hey Brad, I'm pretty sure the guys who made it happen went to college .
haha, well played
He got lucky today since he had nothing to lose and there was no pressure on him and the guy from Texas ( i believe 20 Nat ) didn't give it his all and was singing a song , thinking of a girl , considering schoolwork and lost to a 16 yr old 1 and 3
Ironically, I wasn't talking about your player at all or that specific match (I am following players that have a shot), but if you think the shoe fits...I was talking about behavior in general....coaches and parents that look at a single match as meaning so much. It is a classic pattern for you, win a couple games and jump way ahead to thinking you are even with them or growing. Only wins over time show growth. It is a flaw newbs to the sport exhibit all the time. And yes, now I am talking about you specifically. But don't feel bad, a zillion people like you do the same thing. A loss is a big zero, gets you nothing on the board or ranking, just gives you some experience and the cost of playing. People might mumble it was a good match, then forget the loser real quick. The harsh reality.
nice win! - maybe moving on the the post-round-robin stuff if he takes care of harvard guy, which he should
btw - hess olesen was 80 in the college singles rankings end of last yr, and 42 now in the preseason ones they create by taking away graduating players and players not currently competing (like rola, frank, etc) - so he's not anywhere near 20 in the country - as much as you "believe it" - this isn't like peter pan where things exist because people believe in them
nice win! - maybe moving on the the post-round-robin stuff if he takes care of harvard guy, which he should
btw - hess olesen was 80 in the college singles rankings end of last yr, and 42 now in the preseason ones they create by taking away graduating players and players not currently competing (like rola, frank, etc) - so he's not anywhere near 20 in the country - as much as you "believe it" - this isn't like peter pan where things exist because people believe in them
I saw Britton beat Tomic at US Open juniors. Britton made it to finals that year. Next year won NCAA's. The jump to pros is huge. Nice to say congrats for taking the #4 player at Cal last year to 3 sets. It is nice. Not indicative of pro potential, however. My current player took out a good D1 player- when he was in the 8th grade! My kid going to college to play, probably D3. Anything can happen with any player, especially one with good size and athletecism, but the reults here are not indicative of a pro career. If Stanford or Duke offer a scholarship- you would have to be insane to turn it down!
1 in the nation or 200 its college its good hits ! The no.1 player from last year was playing LA this year and walked around on court complaining after every point ,something I expect from a young female jr. during that time of the month but once again its college tennis !
I am so happy that the collision is now entering the multiple vehicle arena. It makes slowing down and watching so much more fun.
At least your right , when most so-called educated people would ask about us homeschooling there first question was "what about his social life " can you believe that educated people worried wether he had friends when it came to us schooling ? good one , you know what schools for !
publicly trashing steve johnson is a great way to get a scholarship offer from peter smith! (not that DB would ever get one anyway, i remind you)
keep it up, one day you're going to be wishing your son had even a sniff of the type of career that SJ is developing right now (couple US open wins this year)
Schools are for what you want to get out of it. Brad, Dennis N. is not going to Harvard to come out and play pro tennis, nor is he going there for girls, or parties. He's going there for one reason and you know what that reason is.
Don't argue with people over the benefits of school or no school. Who cares, everyone gets what they want out of it. Period.
where you at school ? have them enroll you in a comprehension class , "Want to go proooooo not loooking forrrrrrr scholorshippppp" OOOOOOOkaaayyyyyy, wont be asking for one from PS
The win over Hess-Olesen of Texas is very impressive. I have no idea that it says anything about a pro career, because DB is just 16 and probably needs to be about 20 before I would try to judge that possibility, but today's win was very impressive (and unexpected to me).
Let's be honest, folks: We were all waiting for DB to play someone lower in the ITA rankings than Hess-Olesen (like maybe an unranked Harvard player) in order to get a win this weekend. Two losses to good players and one win over a Harvard guy would be pretty encouraging for DB. He has already exceeded expectations.
haha, well recently you've made comments such as "i'll let you know if plans change" and mentioned scholarship offers a lot, so who knows what your definitive position is on whether there's any possibility of college tennis in DB's future
but yeah it's OOOOOkaaaayyyy with me if you want to close some of the doors that his hard work is opening, and especially humorous if you're doing so without even consulting with him (you know, the guy that is actually accomplishing these things while you're trying to figure out how space shuttles work)
Well you are in the minority here , these college guys are playing amongst their peers so they are not playing their best against these jrs. so how is any win here over a college guy impressive ?
Remember you have to have confidence ,believe you can do it, so knowing a Jr. like DB knows he has nothing to lose,no pressure, he already is coming in with a negative mind set so there is no way he can win !
What I want to know is if this is how all the guys on here meassure things how do you drum up some real competition?
some dummy in the White house closed the program nothing to figure out !
but, the easiest way to silence the "real competition" doubters comes in a few years in the futures circuit - i think it's reasonable to doubt the effort of college players in a fall tournament they may not care too much about - it's not reasonable to doubt the effort of someone fighting to make it on the pro tour and earn a check that pays for their next week of travel / coaching / food
Sounds like he has talked to some former top juniors who went for it like I have talked to. It is almost impossible to explain how brutal that route is compared to a prodigy who bursts right up the rankings due to scary talent.
Two losses to good players and one win over a Harvard guy would be pretty encouraging for DB. He has already exceeded expectations.
a question not completely related to Brad.
So USTA juniors are 7:9 against those college guys. I would think that the college guys would win a great majority of those matches since they are older and have more match experience. 7:9 seems pretty close to me. Is it that those juniors are so good? Or that college guys are not that great?
Seems to keep happening.
^^I can tell you with certainty, the college guys don't care about the matches with the juniors. There is no way they are gonna risk injury right before season and ITAs by playing at all hard. This is like a match on Friday before junior plays in a tournament on Saturday. No way do you go all out. You work on rhythm and test things. The matches aren't reported anywhere that matters to them, don't count for anything. They are secure enough in themselves to look at it as a light practice and sincerely not care about the score or results that post in a napa paper or zoo tennis. They couldn't give a ****, bigger fish to fry. Losing actually adds fun to their dinner conversation. Gotta see the big picture folks, not an insignificant match or score. The teens and 20s playing know that, now if the adults here can figure it out, that would be great.
and after reading what i wrote, just want to restate - i am impressed w/ DB's win regardless - didn't think he was going to take out a guy who's been playing at the top of UT's lineup
but that's not because i think hess-olesen is a college player who's going to do anything on tour with his tennis - he won't - it's just because i doubted that DB was even at the level of college players low on the ITA singles rankings - perhaps i'm wrong on that, but not putting it all on one match
If this is true then please answer this question why would a college kid playing a match against a junior scream out in anger over a few missed shot and smash his racket on the ground ? Also the other 2 players we played were yelling out after missed shots , why would they yell if it doesnt matter and they dont care ?
The final question why would I encourage my player to go to college to hang out with people with serious issues ??
and everything else that goes with failing . I really do thank guys .
BTW he got lucky again today I told him to make it go 3 and he listen.
beating an unranked guy from harvard isn't luck - he's better than those guys, i've predicted that win all along
yeah, i agree with tball's posts in general, and his sense that college players don't really get anything out of this tournament besides some practice is on point (again, the wild card that's out there as a carrot doesn't mean much to players of this quality that can't do much with that WC) - but yeah, the guys aren't out there trying to lose even if they're maybe giving something south of 100% effort, and i'm sure hess-olesen was kinda pissed about your kid smacking him yesterday
what else do you and TCF say ? Oh wait DB is not athletic "AKA black" he has no chance, he is D2 bound
yeah, i agree with tball's posts in general, and his sense that college players don't really get anything out of this tournament besides some practice is on point (again, the wild card that's out there as a carrot doesn't mean much to players of this quality that can't do much with that WC) - but yeah, the guys aren't out there trying to lose even if they're maybe giving something south of 100% effort, and i'm sure hess-olesen was kinda pissed about your kid smacking him yesterday
BTW he got lucky again today I told him to make it go 3 and he listen.
haha i've never said he's D2 bound and fairly sure i've never commented on his athleticism or race- but that's funny stuff right there
as for "no chance" - if we're talking money-making successful ATP career - then yes, 99.99% no chance is my repeatedly-stated opinion in some form or another, put me on record for that as many times as you like
ps - did he get out of the round robin to the quarters? how does the tie-break work between 2-1 players in a group?
i'm currently laughing my @ss off, just so you know
tweets i just read indicate hess-olesen advances because he also was 2-1 but one a higher % of sets
if DB had beaten harvard guy in straights he'd be advancing out of group play
good coaching, no1coach!
you are stacking huge college debt
to pursue a dream you couldn't even think of at 18 being a 2 star recruit !!
DB said his win today in 2 or 3 would not have mattered,,
the @ustacollege10s 1:20pm tweet disagrees my friend - good coaching!
You are correct on that but we head down to IMG in Nov will asked them what we missed out on ,
Different sub. They interviewed DB on Radiotennis.com can you see if there is and archive so we can hear the matches covered over the last couple of days ?
re part 1: cool, please sign a contract, I beg you - like you i'm not interested in seeing what kind of college player DB becomes - i want to see what happens once he closes that door - so make it happen in Nov!
re part 2: nope - i did enough nadal research for you yesterday - and talk about matches doesn't mean much to me - i prefer the scorelines or seeing them if possible - so you can find that chatter if you're interested
and in 2 years from now will be filled out and will be plowing through the pro system .
This really is not that difficult to calculate the math .
hesitant to respond to this, since this poster really only argues in soundbites rather than anything substantive..but sure i'll humor this particular soundbite with one response:
not exceeding my expectations, that's for sure - he's won 1 of his last 7 matches by my count (last two matches at the zoo, then us open, then futures quali, then three college player matches)
*did worse than i expected at zoo - i didn't see him doing so poorly against an unseeded player in consos, winning a total of one game
*same as i expected at us open - peliwo crushed him
*same as i expected in futures quali - a solid college player, giron, took care of him
*slightly better than i expected in this college player stretch - i said in past posts he'd win 1 or 2 depending on his grouping, but didn't think he'd take a guy like hess-olesen if i'm being honest, so there's one 'exceeding expectations' point to DB
who has posted expectations that he continues to exceed? we still talking about TCFs D2 banter from years ago? or did someone say he had no chance of winning matches this weekend?
the main expectations i see on this board are that he won't have a successful money-making ATP career - feel free to rub it in years from now if those expectations prove wrong, but it's not going to happen
I've read a lot of stuff written about this kid for the last year or so by you and others.
Including lately that no top D1 coach would want him.
Obviously, this is a very talented kid who at the bare minimum will be recruited by top D1 coaches.
Yeah okay, he keeps exceeding your posted expectations
I've read a lot of stuff written about this kid for the last year or so by you and others.
Including lately that no top D1 coach would want him.
The way some of you post, I would think we were talking about some 3 star player and a completely delusional dad.
Instead you are talking about a kid who is a blue chip, #1 to #3 in his class, and apparently top 10 in the 18's.
Obviously, this is a very talented kid who at the bare minimum will be recruited by top D1 coaches.
Yet several of you state repeatedly how no top D1 coach would want him, blah blah blah.
Yeah okay, he keeps exceeding your posted expectations though I suspect that is only because of the joy with which some of you seem to have in tearing down this kid because you don't like his dad or whatever.
The reality is Deiton is clearly one of the best 16 year olds in the country right now. Perhaps he will continue to improve and have a shot at the pros, perhaps he will play college tennis.
Who knows. The way some of you post, one would think he was a total scrub.