Paris Draw

Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
Djokovic got tired JMDP and JWT, btw Federer might play first match against Gilles Simon :)

Murray has easy way to the SF
 

SQA333

Hall of Fame
Federer has the toughest draw by far - Simon, Baghdatis, Berdych and Murray looming large. All of whom are capable of beating Rust ******** (ok maybe not Baggy).

Djokovic with no real threats to the final except Raonic, but he may not even make it to the 3rd round.

All in all, an early Federer exit is shaping up, as well as a Murray-Djokovic final.

Predictions:
Semis -- Murray d. Berdych; Djokovic d. Ferrer to seal the #1 spot.
Final -- Djokovic d. Murray
 

The Bawss

Banned
Joke draw for Noel. That's ok he deserves one once in a while with all the top 4 guys he has to go through on a regular basis. No, wait...
 

Clarky21

Banned
Joke draw for Noel. That's ok he deserves one once in a while with all the top 4 guys he has to go through on a regular basis. No, wait...



Agreed. ******* is the king of Twinkie draws. Nobody gets such pure cake draws as often as he does. May as well hand him the trophy now and save us all the trouble.
 
I can see Federer and Murray pulling out Djokovic cleaning up a clown draw and then the tennis public declaring him the greatest at this at that. No thanks.
 

romeo8880

G.O.A.T.
It used to not matter who was in Federer's draw because nobody could beat him lol. Now that he's older and clearly not as good as he once was, it matters. A down match can happen anytime with him and if he has one of those against the people in his draw, he will most likely lose. Sometimes reality is sad.
 

DragonBlaze

Hall of Fame
Fed should just withdraw, focus on WTF. Paris would just take wayyy too much out of him, especially with that draw.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Agreed. ******* is the king of Twinkie draws. Nobody gets such pure cake draws as often as he does. May as well hand him the trophy now and save us all the trouble.

Yeah like getting Fed in his half for every HC slam and Nadal in nearly every RG for years.. let's see what was it last year? 6-0 vs Nadal, 4-1 vs Federer?

Joke draw for Noel. That's ok he deserves one once in a while with all the top 4 guys he has to go through on a regular basis. No, wait...

Yeah but there's NO ONE who can trouble him in the slightest, so his draw shouldn't matter right?

No. saving us from watching Gumby stretch and ugly up the court. His tennis is too robotic and reeks of academy-bot tennis. I don't like watching him.

Lol, in other words he out nadals Nadal. At least Djokovic has some attacking aspect to his game (though I must admit, ever since he started trying to emulate Nadal, he has been more boring) Nadal has no serve, no backhand, hardly ever comes to the net or steps inside the bassline. This is according to you by the way :lol:
 

Clarky21

Banned
Yeah like getting Fed in his half for every HC slam and Nadal in nearly every RG for years.. let's see what was it last year? 6-0 vs Nadal, 4-1 vs Federer?



Yeah but there's NO ONE who can trouble him in the slightest, so his draw shouldn't matter right?



Lol, in other words he out nadals Nadal. At least Djokovic has some attacking aspect to his game (though I must admit, ever since he started trying to emulate Nadal, he has been more boring) Nadal has no serve, no backhand, hardly ever comes to the net or steps inside the bassline. This is according to you by the way :lol:


Since when did Nadal resemble Stretch Armstrong? How about never in his entire career(and that's a good thing).


And ******* can try to emulate Nadal all day long but he will never achieve it. He could only dream of being as big a superstar as Nadal,and that's what he would love to have most,being the attention seeker he is.


A lot of that is true. Nadal does have a weak serve,backhand,and is far too defensive by hanging out in the stands. What's the problem with saying it?
 

Clarky21

Banned
I can see Federer and Murray pulling out Djokovic cleaning up a clown draw and then the tennis public declaring him the greatest at this at that. No thanks.



Yeah,and they will. If we end up with another Toronto on our hands I will gladly skip this tournament. Watching ******* is torturous.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Since when did Nadal resemble Stretch Armstrong? How about never in his entire career(and that's a good thing).


And ******* can try to emulate Nadal all day long but he will never achieve it. He could only dream of being as big a superstar as Nadal,and that's what he would love to have most,being the attention seeker he is.


A lot of that is true. Nadal does have a weak serve,backhand,and is far too defensive by hanging out in the stands. What's the problem with saying it?

Nadal is responisble for Djokovic and Murray playing grinder tennis. They modelled their epic and often borring rally style after him. True story.

He will never achieve what? According to you he's more talented and will win more than Nadal. But Nadal is the bigger "superstar"? right well glad I figured out what's most important to you.

Nothing wrong with saying it. But what you're saying is he's game is boring, defensive and lacking in any attacking intent. But I guess some people find that entertaining... point is his game is like a less attacking, more grind based version of Djokovic. Like if Djokovic became more boring than he's already become. But you don't like Djokovic's game because he does the slits? Lol, you just don't like him, it's not even to do with game. All the things you criticise Nadal for NOT doing are things that Djokovic DOES do.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Nadal is responisble for Djokovic and Murray playing grinder tennis. They modelled their epic and often borring rally style after him. True story.He will never achieve what? According to you he's more talented and will win more than Nadal. But Nadal is the bigger "superstar"? right well glad I figured out what's most important to you.

Nothing wrong with saying it. But what you're saying is he's game is boring, defensive and lacking in any attacking intent. But I guess some people find that entertaining... point is his game is like a less attacking, more grind based version of Djokovic. Like if Djokovic became more boring than he's already become. But you don't like Djokovic's game because he does the slits? Lol, you just don't like him, it's not even to do with game. All the things you criticise Nadal for NOT doing are things that Djokovic DOES do.



I guess there were no "grinders" before Nadal came on the scene. And if ******* is becoming more like Nadal,a player you hate,I guess you should be just as disgusted with ******* as you are with Nadal.


He is more talented than Nadal,but so are a lot of player's. Believe me,my having to compliment ******* on anything tests my gag reflex. Lol.


It's not important to me,it's important to *******. And I have been a fan of Nadal since 2005. Long before he became the superstar he is today. And who are you to talk about liking star players when you are a *******? :lol: Is he slumming it out in the pits trying to gain in popularity? Fed is the biggest tennis star going these days. Pot meet kettle,dude.



This is the ******* in you talking. You sound just like Magnus,Drakulie,TMF... And that's not a compliment.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Or another clay/grass season 2010. When Nadal was unbelieeeeeeeeeveable at beating chumps



Fed is a chump then,huh? How about Soderling in the RG final? How about Berdych at Wimby? ******* at the USO? Yep,those are some mighty big chumps there,Towser. :lol:
 

Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
Or another clay/grass season 2010. When Nadal was unbelieeeeeeeeeveable at beating chumps

You're a little exaggerating here, Nadal beats Berdych, Murray, Soderling two times, Federer, Ferrer and Verdasco ( btw Verdasco beats Djokovic two times on clay in 2010)! Better that you mentioned USO 2010
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Federer doesn't even have a draw - it's a torture chamber. Facing prime Baghdatis early in the tournament? I wouldn't be surprised if the fragile swede dope withdrew from the tournament altogether.
 

Clarky21

Banned
You're a little exaggerating here, Nadal beats Berdych, Murray, Soderling two times, Federer, Ferrer and Verdasco ( btw Verdasco beats Djokovic two times on clay in 2010)! Better that you mentioned USO 2010


Then I guess ******* is a chump then. And don't give me this 2.0 crap because that's bs. Nadal is a mug on hardcourts,and was playing a guy who had not only been in a USO final once before,but is also the best hardcourt player in the world. He had also handed Nadal some beatdowns on HC many times before that match.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I guess there were no "grinders" before Nadal came on the scene. And if ******* is becoming more like Nadal,a player you hate,I guess you should be just as disgusted with ******* as you are with Nadal.


He is more talented than Nadal,but so are a lot of player's. Believe me,my having to compliment ******* on anything tests my gag reflex. Lol.


It's not important to me,it's important to *******. And I have been a fan of Nadal since 2005. Long before he became the superstar he is today. And who are you to talk about liking star players when you are a *******? :lol: Is he slumming it out in the pits trying to gain in popularity? Fed is the biggest tennis star going these days. Pot meet kettle,dude.



This is the ******* in you talking. You sound just like Magnus,Drakulie,TMF... And that's not a compliment.

No but Nadal took it to a new level of grinding. Now with Djokovic and Murray trying to do it too, tennis is getting ridiculous. And I'm not disgusted with Nadal, but I am dissapointed in Djokovic, his HC game was much better to watch in 2008. Now I'm losing patience in his grindfests with Nadal and Murray.

You don't even get my point. I'm not calling you out for liking a "superstar" player, I'm saying you said Djokovic will never be what nadal is, which is what? A superstar? Who cares? I'd rather achieve more than be more popular. You started liking Nadal the year he won his first slam. Big deal, I liked Federer in 2001 and Djokovic in 2006, before they won anything of note.

Not that it really matter, I don't care when you started liking Nadal, I never accused you of liking him for being a superstar, I just thought it was a crap point to brag about. Btw I like the way you now change your story and call me a *******. I thought I was a *********? You can't keep your story straight, you had to change it there to accuse me of liking a superstar player (cos you just said Djokovic wasn't one) The fact that you can't decide between ******* and ********* kind of proves I'm neither. There's things i like and dislike about both of them.

But in your world everything is black and white, cos any shades of grey and you get confused...
 

Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
Then I guess ******* is a chump then. And don't give me this 2.0 crap because that's bs. Nadal is a mug on hardcourts,and was playing a guy who had not only been in a USO final once before,but is also the best hardcourt player in the world. He had also handed Nadal some beatdowns on HC many times before that match.

Yes, but only Djokovic! He played against Youzhny in SF (and don't give me this 2006 USO crap because that's bs :)) and Verdasco in QF! But I admit that Nadal was in good shape, so that the draw may not be so important! :-|
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Fed is a chump then,huh? How about Soderling in the RG final? How about Berdych at Wimby? ******* at the USO? Yep,those are some mighty big chumps there,Towser. :lol:

Well he is if he'sin Djokovic's draw right? And yes Fed lost in bloody estoril in 2010 :lol: and we know he can't usually beat Nadal on clay. Soderling? yes chump, his record is pathetic vs top players. Berdych? hahaha you mean the same berdych who Djokovic beat recently and you were moaning cos Berdych is no threat at all? Oh now suddenly he's a great player hahaha. The back pedalling you do is so good you could win the tour de france. Djokovic was a total chump in 2010. He took 9 months to get a win over a top ten player. He got straight setted by Berdych who is no threat to him according to you. That says it all.

Then I guess ******* is a chump then. And don't give me this 2.0 crap because that's bs. Nadal is a mug on hardcourts,and was playing a guy who had not only been in a USO final once before,but is also the best hardcourt player in the world. He had also handed Nadal some beatdowns on HC many times before that match.

He wasn't the best hardcourt player in the world. Nadal had as many HC slams as him and in 2010 Murray and Federer both had been better HC players than Djokovic. And so what if he'd been in a final before? Didn't stop him being crap. Nadal had been in 4 Wimbledon finals and still lost to Djokovic in 2011.

Being serious, it was a good win for Nadal. And that's why I said clay/grass and didn't even mention the US Open. Even though Novak was not in great form.

But if the 2.0 thing is rubbish then it shows Nadal could/can beat Djokovic on hc and you've said allalong he needs a miracle. So how exactly did Nadal win that match is he is a HC mug and Djokovic was the best HC player in the world? More backpedalling. Do you ever try making sense just for the hell of it?
 
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jokinla

Hall of Fame
Again Murray and Fed on the same side. Since becoming #1 again, there has been one major and 3 1000's, with Murray and Fed on the same side all but 1 1000, Djoker again getting things handed to him.
 

*Sparkle*

Professional
Djokovic had Murray on his side for the Olympics, which is arguably more annoying for him, as a silver medal carries more appeal than a regular runners-up trophy. Or would have been if he'd beaten Del Potro in the bronze medal match.

I do feel a bit sorry for Roger with this draw. He's not been playing great, and looks like he could do with a decent rest, so assuming he turns up to Paris, and doesn't go out early, he's going to risk a second defeat in a row to Berdych, or a third defeat in a row to Murray, or playing a final the day before WTFs start.
 

TheF1Bob

Banned
Towser: No kidding, another Fedkovic fan? I thought I was the only on here. Salute! :)

There are a few others as well, but thanks! good to see more Fedkovic fans :)

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Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
Again Murray and Fed on the same side. Since becoming #1 again, there has been one major and 3 1000's, with Murray and Fed on the same side all but 1 1000, Djoker again getting things handed to him.

How many times Djokovic got Federer (#3) when he was #1?

Andy is in the worst position, must win against both players, but I do not see that his fans so much grumble as Roger's...
 
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