What do you guys think? If Tsonga had won and Djokovic didn't would he have went on to accomplish better things than he has so far? More slams, number 1, etc?
I think that final might've been more important than we think..
Djokovic's run in 2011 wasn't a tear? :shock:Djokovic didnt even go on a tear after winning there, so why would anyone assume Tsonga who isnt as good or stable a player as Djokovic is going on one.
Djokovic's run in 2011 wasn't a tear? :shock:
Djokovic improved on his results from 2007, winning a slam and being consistent through out the year. In 2008, Djokovic had a chance to end the year at #2, being basically tied with Federer for that spot.Djokovic didnt even go on a tear after winning there, so why would anyone assume Tsonga who isnt as good or stable a player as Djokovic is going on one.
Yeah 3 years later. He certainly didnt start taking over tennis or racking up the slams soon after his breakthrough slam win.
He did go on to win the 2008 WTF and 2 more Masters that year (IW and Rome) and narrowly lost in the final of Cincinnati but it's true that winning his first Slam didn't herald any surge of dominance for Djokovic. Federer and Nadal remained the two top players for the next 3 years and Djokovic didn't even make another Slam final until 2010 USO, 2 years and 8 months after winning his maiden Slam at 2008 AO.
However after reaching his 2nd Slam final (2010 USO), Djokovic went on his roll and has made no less than 6 out of the 8 Slam finals played since then, winning 4 of them. It was that 2nd Slam final appearance, even though he lost, that seems to have been the trigger that propelled him to his present dominance of the men's tour!
It was actually his 3rd slam final appearance.
USO 2007, AO 2008 (Won), USO 2010....
Yes, of course. I should have said 2nd Slam final since winning 2008 AO!
What do you guys think? If Tsonga had won and Djokovic didn't would he have went on to accomplish better things than he has so far? More slams, number 1, etc?
I think that final might've been more important than we think..
What do you guys think? If Tsonga had won and Djokovic didn't would he have went on to accomplish better things than he has so far? More slams, number 1, etc?
I think that final might've been more important than we think..
Wimbledon would be almost impossible for Tsonga to win.no, but he'd probably have enough confidence to go on and win another slam, maybe @ the AO or at wimbledon ...
Wimbledon would be almost impossible for Tsonga to win.
Martin Klizan is a rising talent, losing to him isn't something to be ashamed of.No he is not enough consistent, Tsonga can destroy Nadal, but on another day Martin Klizan can beat him easily.
the problem with french players in general is:
- bad influence of the french tennis federation,
- negative behaviour of the french media
When you're great, they love you
when you lose, they burn you
when tsonga reached the AO final, they were like "finally, a new hope"
then just after he lost: "he should lose weight, he's fat, there's no hope, blablabla"
And the federation is here just to suck their momentum and ruin them, it works like the Communist PArty in CHina
It happens all the time with french players: grosjean, gasquet,etc etc
You could tell Djokovic was going to go on and do great things, being ranked #3 in the world at just 20 years old and having already had a close final against Federer. Then he goes on and wins the Australian Open, losing only one set on the way.Djokovic seemed to many people to be the heir apparent to #1 as early as early 2008 when he won that Australian Open so convincingly. However it turned out to be Nadal owning most of the next 3 years with Federer as his main rival. What he did in 2011 was what many were expecting him to do years sooner, but he wasnt ready for it it turned out. I dont think anyone thought Tsonga was tennis's next big thing, win or lose there. It was one of those lightning in a bottle kind of runs, and one could sense even then it was probably now or never for him.
Djokovic seemed to many people to be the heir apparent to #1 as early as early 2008 when he won that Australian Open so convincingly. However it turned out to be Nadal owning most of the next 3 years with Federer as his main rival. What he did in 2011 was what many were expecting him to do years sooner, but he wasnt ready for it it turned out. I dont think anyone thought Tsonga was tennis's next big thing, win or lose there. It was one of those lightning in a bottle kind of runs, and one could sense even then it was probably now or never for him.
He was actually five points off ending the year at #2 in 2008. When you look at 2009, he had a big dip in terms of points and held a mediocre lead on his #3 ranking. By 2010, he was fighting tooth and nail to get the #2 spot. He ended the year at #3, just ahead of Murray who was only a few hundred points behind him. In 2011, that all changed.There are plenty of people on here who still think Tsonga is going to be the next best thing!
For the next 3 years, it seemed like Djokovic's 2008 win was going to be lightening in a bottle too! He didn't actually do too much wrong in the remainder of that year. He won the WTF and 2 Masters titles and he ended each year still ranked #3. But it's bit strange that he made no more Slam finals until 2010 USO. He won only one biggish title in 2009 and none at all in 2010. 2011 was truly his 2nd breakthrough year after the promising start of 2008!