Why don't we just compare the # of slams at the same age? That should settle it.
What happened in other matched during that "peak Djokovic" year?
Going by that logic, Hewitt and Safin are better than Federer.20 year old Djokovic - 1 GS
20 year old Federer - 0 GS
And what happened to the other matches in 2007?
20 year old Djokovic - 1 GS
20 year old Federer - 0 GS
I guess 20 year old Safin and Hewitt are better than Federer, too, and have more "potential".honestly djokovic has more potential than federer i know go and yell at me but djokovic won AO with 2x more competition than fed winning wimbledon
djokovic was also more succesful than fed
20 years old djoko -1
20 years old fed -0
How about at Djoker's current age of 25?
Wait does this mean Chang is the GOAT?
25 year old Djokovic - 5 GS
25 year old Federer (in the end of 2006 season) - 9 GS
What happened in other matched during that "peak Djokovic" year?
Wow so Fed almost doubled Djoker! Amazing.
Wow so Fed almost doubled Djoker! Amazing.
honestly djokovic has more potential than federer i know go and yell at me but djokovic won AO with 2x more competition than fed winning wimbledon
djokovic was also more succesful than fed
20 years old djoko -1
20 years old fed -0
The only big scalp Djokovic took was against a sick Federer that tournament. That's like Hewitt and Safin thrashing Sampras in the final of the US Open.2x more competition you say?
I'd like to see the mathematical formula that led you to that conclusion.
The only big scalp Djokovic took was against a sick Federer that tournament. That's like Hewitt and Safin thrashing Sampras in the final of the US Open.
MonoFed is pathetic excuse! Djokovic beats #5 Ferrer, #1 Federer and future top 10 player JWT who destroyed Nadal in SF.
Federer was starting to slip in 2007. It's not that he was past his prime, but his game was dipping a little.
He lost to Djokovic in Montreal that year? Great. He also lost to Volandri at Rome, Canas at Indian Wells and Miami, Nalbandian at both Madrid and Paris, and Gonzo at the Masters Cup in the round robin stage.
Federer was starting to slip in 2007. It's not that he was past his prime, but his game was dipping a little.
He lost to Djokovic in Montreal that year? Great. He also lost to Volandri at Rome, Canas at Indian Wells and Miami, Nalbandian at both Madrid and Paris, and Gonzo at the Masters Cup in the round robin stage.
And what happened to the other matches in 2007?
Federer destroyed Djokovic in US Open finals.
thank you for leading me to my point. The expected result. This 2011 FO win over Djokovic was an upset in many ways. As was the montreal match. Federer won the 2007 AO, 2007 USO, 2007 Dubai. The expected result for a world number 1.
So 5555 can post this thread all he wants.. it just shows a match that prime Federer choked away. He redeemed himself a month later.
Also, i Love the quotes. does 2011 not count as peak Djokovic now?
Do you seriously believe he'll ever have a season as good as that again?
it's too funny how some of you twist things out to suit your sick Fed needs. Yes Fed did def. Nole at the USO, but that was the choke of the century. Nole was a break up in both first 2 sets. Then at the AO. Nole literally demolished Fed. If Djokovic hadn't been stupid enough to change his racquet, hire Todd Martin who complitely ruined his service motion he would have probably holding 3/4 slams in his pocket.thank you for leading me to my point. The expected result. This 2011 FO win over Djokovic was an upset in many ways. As was the montreal match. Federer won the 2007 AO, 2007 USO, 2007 Dubai. The expected result for a world number 1.
So 5555 can post this thread all he wants.. it just shows a match that prime Federer choked away. He redeemed himself a month later.
Also, i Love the quotes. does 2011 not count as peak Djokovic now?
Do you seriously believe he'll ever have a season as good as that again?
Going by that logic, Hewitt and Safin are better than Federer.
thank you for leading me to my point. The expected result. This 2011 FO win over Djokovic was an upset in many ways. As was the montreal match. Federer won the 2007 AO, 2007 USO, 2007 Dubai. The expected result for a world number 1.
So 5555 can post this thread all he wants.. it just shows a match that prime Federer choked away. He redeemed himself a month later.
Also, i Love the quotes. does 2011 not count as peak Djokovic now?
Do you seriously believe he'll ever have a season as good as that again?
Obvious trolling, I think it was Djokovic who choked US open finals.Multiple set points in first and second set.If it was the other way it would something like 3 wins in a row, and maybe more in future.Federer was lucky, but also much more experienced player, he knew that's his opponent will be overwhelmed by the moment itself.Playing first GS final against 11 time champion is not the same like playing someone like Phillipussies.And the most amount of wins that Federer accumulated against Novak in single season were in 2011, it was 4-1.Also, Federer was in great form before last years AO, he was playing in Doha like never before, crushing opponents along the way, so this type arguments about post prime and old Fed are really cheap way to belittle Djokovic accomplishments.
I agree completely
Sorry, 2010 not 2011 I meant, just fixed this.
Federer destroyed Djokovic in US Open finals.
yeah wasn't djokovic's record in 2011 4-1? and Federer may not be in his prime but he is still playing pretty darn well and winning titles and grandslams in harder competition i.e. nadal murray djokovic
If people want to see Federer destroying somebody in a major final, they should take a look at his 2004 match against Hewitt in the final of the US Open. Federer's match against Djokovic was a close, three set win. It could have easily gone the other way.Noit was a close 3 setter, and Djokovic could have won the first 2 sets. Federer won 2 tiebreak sets and one 6-4
In fact look at this Canada 2007 match here in the opening post. Federer took a set 6-2 and Djokovic needed 2 tiebreaks. In a way Djokovic played better at the US open, he just failed in the tiebreakers, but he didn't get beat 6-2 in any set, so the difference was marginal. Obviously takes skill to win a tiebreak but still it can be a very thin line between winning and losing.
If people want to see Federer destroying somebody in a major final, they should take a look at his 2004 match against Hewitt in the final of the US Open. Federer's match against Djokovic was a close, three set win. It could have easily gone the other way.
If people want to see Federer destroying somebody in a major final, they should take a look at his 2004 match against Hewitt in the final of the US Open. Federer's match against Djokovic was a close, three set win. It could have easily gone the other way.
Obvious trolling, I think it was Djokovic who choked US open finals.Multiple set points in first and second set.If it was the other way it would something like 3 wins in a row, and maybe more in future.Federer was lucky, but also much more experienced player, he knew that's his opponent will be overwhelmed by the moment itself.Playing first GS final against 11 time champion is not the same like playing someone like Phillipussies.And the most amount of wins that Federer accumulated against Novak in single season were in 2010, it was 4-1.Also, Federer was in great form before last years AO, he was playing in Doha like never before, crushing opponents along the way, so this type of arguments about post prime and old Fed are really cheap way to belittle Djokovic accomplishments.
How so? All I said was it could have gone either way, using "easily" to emphasize my point.Your opposition to the use of the word 'destroy' in Fed-Djoker 2007 is deflated by your subsequent use of the word 'easily'.