BigBanger007
New User
T-Fight 325 feels very controlled yet power is excessible, spin as well even though the head seems smaller and the string pattern on the tighter side.
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thecrusher956
Rookie
why does the head feel smaller?
Murrayalmagrofan
Semi-Pro
Not sure if/when - but I called TW earlier today and the rep mentioned that the 2013 racquets are expected to be in stock around mid January.
BigBanger007
New User
Couldn't wait and so I went ahead and got 2 samurai t-fights, excited to take these out for a spin
aussierocks
New User
Should be online 1/13/2013
Try the 305, a lot of pros use the 305, sweet playing racket!
Try the 305, a lot of pros use the 305, sweet playing racket!
heartattack
Semi-Pro
what your current string of choice on tfight? mine i like co-poly on this one @55. with gut/poly not much but i get crazy spin...
fellow board member swinging the tfight 305 in vancouver during davis cup
warming up milos raonic before his clinching match vs seppi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5e2z4Cxbrc
hitting forehands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=proxt_zbeOQ
warming up milos raonic before his clinching match vs seppi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5e2z4Cxbrc
hitting forehands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=proxt_zbeOQ
Slick Tennis
Rookie
Currently on a lenghty playtest of the new T-Fight 305. My first time with a TF stick. Long time follower of these boards where I picked up some great tips and ideas. Long time Ti.Radical and Microgel Radical user. 4.5 level player. Getting great pop on my groundies with this T-Fight. On the forehand, I feel I can easily go from heavy spin to flat and get depth with little effort. Lots of free power, and must say, awesome ability to simply 'slap" the ball. Volleys are also rock solid. Downsides for me are the slice (still not used to the balance) and, to my surprise the flat serve. One thing I must mention is that, on occasion, when going big, I get a strange ping sound (even with dampener). It sounds silly but it reminisces of hitting a golf ball with a driver. All in all, this frame's got lots of potential, I was previously playtesting the Head Graphene Speed Pro and really liked the solidity at impact but with this one, the ability to change ball direction and attack the forehand is giving me more freebies. I still believe I haven't fully tapped into the frame's full potential just yet, esp. on the serve. Strung with Tour Bite at 55lbs.
peliwo plays the 305 with TF razor code at around 55lb and it makes that same kind of sound when he hits the ball. must be something to do with the frame
Slick Tennis
Rookie
Thanks Jackal. Hope you had a great time in Vancouver covering the Davis Cup. Interesting that a pro getting his frames straight from Tecnifibre experiences this same sound. I've hit with many frames from various companies over the last 20 years but have never experienced this particular sound. Thankfully it's not present on all shots. Hopefully I can get used to it because the more I hit with this frame, the more I'm finding it complements my game really well.
heartattack
Semi-Pro
simply because the most underrated racquet on the market... love my 325's!
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
do the TF not feel stiff ?? nearly all of them r 68 plus stiffness ?? or do they feel less stiff than the rating suggests ?
Carefree
Rookie
The 315 definitely not, but that's a different thing. I was worried that the 320 would be too stiff, but all of he other specs looked so appealing to me.
I was surprised, I don't find the 320 stiff at all. I was expecting a little bit of discomfort, but there's none. I strung it with BHB7 @ 50.
I was surprised, I don't find the 320 stiff at all. I was expecting a little bit of discomfort, but there's none. I strung it with BHB7 @ 50.
Mig1NC
Professional
The gen-1 T-Fight of many years ago felt pretty stiff IMHO.
However the latest generation T-Fight, to my arm, feels "crisp" but not "stiff".
I really like it.
How comfortable is the 315 LTD compared to the 320? My 320 is giving me some elbow issues so I'm considering the 315 if they do play similar. According to TW, the 315 is lower power with a much smaller sweetspot too. What are your thoughts on the 2? Thanks.
My 315's are not drastically different from the 320.
315's came in at 333g & 329g. My 320 is 333g.
The 315's are definitely softer but it is not a flexy kind of soft like the Radical Pro.
I love the 315. Favorite racquet I've used.
To clarify...
TFight 315 Ltd 16 Main (strung w/X-One Biphase 17) = 333 g
TFight 315 Ltd 16 Main (strung w/Wilson Gut 17) = 329g
TFight 320 TP (strung w/NRG2 17) = 333 g
The only "extra" on these racquets is the Tecnifibre ATP grip bands that come with them. I took the dampeners out when I weighed, and haven't put any overgrips on yet. So, this is basically the stock strung weight, which turns out to be about the same in two of them, and very close for the other.
The power is comparable. The balance is comparable, although I'll measure that soon to see what they are exactly. I'll try to do SW as well, but they don't feel like a huge difference there either.
The primary difference is the feel. Not that I don't like the feel of the 320. I do. It doesn't feel stiff to me, but it is firm/solid. The 315 definitely feels better. It is soft, but not flexy, as I said.
If you like the 320, but want something softer for you arm, I think the 315 is the first stick you should try.
Just my two cents.
TFight 315 Ltd 16 Main (strung w/X-One Biphase 17) = 333 g
TFight 315 Ltd 16 Main (strung w/Wilson Gut 17) = 329g
TFight 320 TP (strung w/NRG2 17) = 333 g
The only "extra" on these racquets is the Tecnifibre ATP grip bands that come with them. I took the dampeners out when I weighed, and haven't put any overgrips on yet. So, this is basically the stock strung weight, which turns out to be about the same in two of them, and very close for the other.
The power is comparable. The balance is comparable, although I'll measure that soon to see what they are exactly. I'll try to do SW as well, but they don't feel like a huge difference there either.
The primary difference is the feel. Not that I don't like the feel of the 320. I do. It doesn't feel stiff to me, but it is firm/solid. The 315 definitely feels better. It is soft, but not flexy, as I said.
If you like the 320, but want something softer for you arm, I think the 315 is the first stick you should try.
Just my two cents.
I would have to agree. Great sticks.
I'd love to try the 305 and 325 at some point just to see how they feel and hit.
Excellent info. Thank you.
They're identical almost. Not sure why the TW power chart for the 2 is so different which is throwing me off.
They're identical almost. Not sure why the TW power chart for the 2 is so different which is throwing me off.
The 320 does have more power, but the difference isn't as big as I was afraid when I tried it out, based on all I'd read.
Measured the SW and balance today - I try to do as close as I can, but no doubt my numbers aren't perfect. My method is consistent with all the racquets, so it definitely gives a good idea of the difference.
TFight 320 TP (w/dampener - 2g)
11. 8 oz (335 g)
8 pts HL
SW = 331
TFight 315 Ltd 16 Main (w/Wilson Natural Gut 17G)
11.7 oz (333 g)
8 pts HL
SW = 316
TFight 315 Ltd 16 Main (w/X-One Biphase 17)
11.8 oz (335 g)
8 pts HL
SW = 318
These numbers bear out what it feels like to me. The racquets all feel very close in terms of weight and balance. The SW on the 315 definitely feels higher than the 301 from the TW specs, but not as high as the 320. That's how they felt and my measurements/results confirmed it.
Carefree
Rookie
Yes, that's true, sort of. However, the 315 is not meant to be played stock. I've added 6 g around the hoop (3/9/12) of the 315 and the power level feels similar to the 320 in terms of sweet spot and plow through. The power difference now feels more like a stiffness thing, the 320 still has a little more put away power, but it's not a large difference to may any more. I was actually expecting the 320 to be really powerful, I was surprised. It's more like controlled power, in my opinion. The 315 is all control, but when you add some lead, it really sings.
Check out the 315 thread, lots of useful info in there.
I've got 2 T-Fight 295 2012 racquets - they are terrific, good power and lots of access to spin. I mainly play doubles and this racquet is great for serve and volley. What I enjoy most is the maneuverability of the racquet. Occasionally I miss it not having a little more mass but not enough to change. I think the 295 will have a somewhat softer feel that the 280 because of the silicone in the handle in the former.
I've got 2 T-Fight 295 2012 racquets - they are terrific, good power and lots of access to spin. I mainly play doubles and this racquet is great for serve and volley. What I enjoy most is the maneuverability of the racquet. Occasionally I miss it not having a little more mass but not enough to change. I think the 295 will have a somewhat softer feel that the 280 because of the silicone in the handle in the former.
I also have T-Fight 295 (2012) racquet, and it is one of my favorites.
I like it's weight and balalnce. It swings easily and it is manuverable, but at the same time it feels solid and stable. I dodn't even think about messing with lead on this one.
It is also quite versatile, so i can hit both topspin or flat shots without problem.
Power level is also decent, it is not overpowered like some tweeners, but it have more pop than players sticks like prestige.
It is a bit string sensitive though, because some stiffer polys at higher tension can amplify it's metallic feel, which i don't like.
I like it's weight and balalnce. It swings easily and it is manuverable, but at the same time it feels solid and stable. I dodn't even think about messing with lead on this one.
It is also quite versatile, so i can hit both topspin or flat shots without problem.
Power level is also decent, it is not overpowered like some tweeners, but it have more pop than players sticks like prestige.
It is a bit string sensitive though, because some stiffer polys at higher tension can amplify it's metallic feel, which i don't like.
Fed Kennedy
Legend
Do the new TP tights feel any different to the old ones? The stringer world guys seem to think they do...has anyone tried?
In my experience, I'd say no. I have a 2011 Samurai 320 and a new 320 TP. They feel/play pretty much the same to me.
Arize
Rookie
Coming from PT57A's I just got the 2012 Tfight 320 and added about 2 grams of lead tape at 3 and 9. Feels really good on ground strokes but I think I need to add another 2 grams at 12 o click to bring the swingweight up a little I still feel better serving flat with the PT57A. This is my first time trying a technifiber racquet but I must say it's a pretty good racquet. I was also interested to know if the samurai version or the new TP are the same racquets? Did samurai have silicone in the handle? I know 2012 and 2013 are supposed to have it? Can anyone confirm samurai has silicone in the handles?
Re the 295, anyone specifically played the new ATP TF 295 (w/100" head-size, 16/20 pattern), not the new TP TF 295 (95" head-size, 16/19 pattern)?
I chose to go the route of modding up the ATP 280 as I like the bigger 100" head-size and the great 16/19 pattern. It's also worth mentioning the TF 280 is a few points less in RA than both the 295's. Anyhow, still curious though, so have ppl actually played the 295 with the 100" hoop-size?
I chose to go the route of modding up the ATP 280 as I like the bigger 100" head-size and the great 16/19 pattern. It's also worth mentioning the TF 280 is a few points less in RA than both the 295's. Anyhow, still curious though, so have ppl actually played the 295 with the 100" hoop-size?
I originally posted this in the TFight 315 thread, but had I seen this thread I would have posted here. I am interested to see what kind of success people have had modifying their 305s/315s/320s/325s. Thanks!
I ordered 2 matched 305s from TW. With shrinkwrap on the handle (approximately 6 grams) and unstrung each was 311 grams, 6.5 points headlight, and 292 swing weight.
I strung them with a full bed of 16 gauge poly (55 lbs), which added 20 grams to the static weight (up to 325 grams) and increased the balance by 2-3 points (more head heavy).
After 2-3 weeks of tinkering with various static weights, balances, and swing weights I found a setup that I really enjoy. You may be able to replicate some of this for your 315s since I noticed the stock swing weight is rather low (310 I think?).
I added 10 grams of lead under my bumper. This was two 10" long, double-layered strips of 1/4" lead tape ranging from approximately 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock. This bumped up my stock swing weight (approximately 330) between 30-35 swingweight units.
Counterweighting/balancing was tricky. Originally I took off the synthetic replacement grip, added 5 grams of lead to the butt, and installed a leather grip. Combined, these changes bumped up the static weight about 15 grams, and made the racquet approximately 4 points head light. The static weight was approximately 353 grams with a tourna grip and vibration dampener. I remove the rubber band on the top of the handle on all of my frames, so that saves about 2 grams.
This setup felt horrible. The frame was sluggish, and the high swingweight hit a very flat ball. Surprisingly, the frame felt great on serves, I assume from the higher (more head heavy) balance point.
Ultimately, I counterbalanced using more polarization. I removed the leather grip, added an additional 5 grams to the butt (10 grams total), and installed a synthetic grip. These changes reduced the frame's static weight about 5 grams to 348 grams. The balance was almost unchanged (slight less than 4 points headlight).
This setup felt great. My rally ball (medium swing/racquet head speed) was flat and penetrating, but the frame counterbalanced in this manner was more maneuverable than the heavier setup with the leather grip and less weight in the butt.
Where this setup really shined was during point play. Taking aggressive cuts at the ball (high swing/racquet head speed) generated a lot of heavy topspin. The ball trajectory was less flat than my rally ball and had a good dip to it. The spin trajectory was different than the spin trajectory of lighter tweener frames (high and loopy). The best way I can describe this kind of spin is "heavy," as if the ball was jumping FORWARD off the court instead of UP off the court.
The setup felt more stable on volleys and returns. I imagine 10 grams in the butt helped with this, since the frame's recoil weight was higher. Serves were less huge and had less action than the leather grip/less weight in the butt setup. I can live with that, since groundstrokes and volleys were a lot better.
I think I am done making mods to my frames for now. Next restring will be with 16L/17 gauge (1.25 mm) poly. This should drop the static weight down 2-3 grams, make the frame slightly more head light, and give my strokes a little more bite.
Enjoy your 315s! I am very impressed by Tecnifibre so far.
And to echo previous posts, even though the 305 is listed as a 95" frame, I think it feels and plays more like a 98".
I forgot to mention: This polarized setup made the frame feel and play much more flexible than stock. These frames had a 72 RDC stiffness. I was a little weary, because most frames I have played in the past ranged from RDC 60-65. Adding 10 grams to the tip and 10 grams to the butt made the frame play much less stiff than RDC 72 though. I imagine the added weight makes the more flexible parts of the frame flex even more during impact, since the heavier parts of the frame move less because of the added lead. I am no engineer/physicist though.
I ordered 2 matched 305s from TW. With shrinkwrap on the handle (approximately 6 grams) and unstrung each was 311 grams, 6.5 points headlight, and 292 swing weight.
I strung them with a full bed of 16 gauge poly (55 lbs), which added 20 grams to the static weight (up to 325 grams) and increased the balance by 2-3 points (more head heavy).
After 2-3 weeks of tinkering with various static weights, balances, and swing weights I found a setup that I really enjoy. You may be able to replicate some of this for your 315s since I noticed the stock swing weight is rather low (310 I think?).
I added 10 grams of lead under my bumper. This was two 10" long, double-layered strips of 1/4" lead tape ranging from approximately 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock. This bumped up my stock swing weight (approximately 330) between 30-35 swingweight units.
Counterweighting/balancing was tricky. Originally I took off the synthetic replacement grip, added 5 grams of lead to the butt, and installed a leather grip. Combined, these changes bumped up the static weight about 15 grams, and made the racquet approximately 4 points head light. The static weight was approximately 353 grams with a tourna grip and vibration dampener. I remove the rubber band on the top of the handle on all of my frames, so that saves about 2 grams.
This setup felt horrible. The frame was sluggish, and the high swingweight hit a very flat ball. Surprisingly, the frame felt great on serves, I assume from the higher (more head heavy) balance point.
Ultimately, I counterbalanced using more polarization. I removed the leather grip, added an additional 5 grams to the butt (10 grams total), and installed a synthetic grip. These changes reduced the frame's static weight about 5 grams to 348 grams. The balance was almost unchanged (slight less than 4 points headlight).
This setup felt great. My rally ball (medium swing/racquet head speed) was flat and penetrating, but the frame counterbalanced in this manner was more maneuverable than the heavier setup with the leather grip and less weight in the butt.
Where this setup really shined was during point play. Taking aggressive cuts at the ball (high swing/racquet head speed) generated a lot of heavy topspin. The ball trajectory was less flat than my rally ball and had a good dip to it. The spin trajectory was different than the spin trajectory of lighter tweener frames (high and loopy). The best way I can describe this kind of spin is "heavy," as if the ball was jumping FORWARD off the court instead of UP off the court.
The setup felt more stable on volleys and returns. I imagine 10 grams in the butt helped with this, since the frame's recoil weight was higher. Serves were less huge and had less action than the leather grip/less weight in the butt setup. I can live with that, since groundstrokes and volleys were a lot better.
I think I am done making mods to my frames for now. Next restring will be with 16L/17 gauge (1.25 mm) poly. This should drop the static weight down 2-3 grams, make the frame slightly more head light, and give my strokes a little more bite.
Enjoy your 315s! I am very impressed by Tecnifibre so far.
And to echo previous posts, even though the 305 is listed as a 95" frame, I think it feels and plays more like a 98".
I forgot to mention: This polarized setup made the frame feel and play much more flexible than stock. These frames had a 72 RDC stiffness. I was a little weary, because most frames I have played in the past ranged from RDC 60-65. Adding 10 grams to the tip and 10 grams to the butt made the frame play much less stiff than RDC 72 though. I imagine the added weight makes the more flexible parts of the frame flex even more during impact, since the heavier parts of the frame move less because of the added lead. I am no engineer/physicist though.
PSC85
Semi-Pro
how does the new and old TF 315 compare? I have an opportunity to purchase the old TF 315 and was wondering how it performs compared to the recent editions. All I could find are basic spec differences here. If anyone could chime in I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
