WQXR: Djokovic Is Among Top Five Famous Classical Music Fans

Numenor

Rookie
OP, that list lost all credibility when it listed Kanye in the honorable mentions section.

I would put Tipsy and Youzhny as the most intellectual tennis players.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
Not until he learns to compose and play his own classical music. I'm sure he can afford a violin. :)



Anyone can listen to classical music.;)

He plays good Piano.

Classical Music doesn't make someone intelligent. There are plenty of intelligent people who listen to Rap and Rock.
 

Emet74

Professional
LOL.

Fed likes some classical music as well, though I don't think opera. But he's had Beethoven and Chopin pieces on his i-pod. And last year he went with his mom to a Beethoven violin concert in Rotterdam for her b-day. OK, it was a b-day outing for her but doubt they would have gone if he hated that kinda stuff.

Anyway, that said, of course Djoko is more intellectual than Fed and Nadal - I thought that was common knowledge? That's obvious from his interviews, the types of movies he sees etc.

Nadal at least does read some books though; Fed isn't a book-reader at all and when he talks about movies it's usually James Bond kinda stuff. "Good Will Hunting" is about as "arty" as he goes to my knowledge anyway.
 
OP, that list lost all credibility when it listed Kanye in the honorable mentions section.

I would put Tipsy and Youzhny as the most intellectual tennis players.

James Blake and Mario Ancic can clearly join those two, the former having an Ivy League education, and the latter now being a lawyer.
 

Jeffrey573639

Semi-Pro
LOL.

Fed likes some classical music as well, though I don't think opera. But he's had Beethoven and Chopin pieces on his i-pod. And last year he went with his mom to a Beethoven violin concert in Rotterdam for her b-day. OK, it was a b-day outing for her but doubt they would have gone if he hated that kinda stuff.

Anyway, that said, of course Djoko is more intellectual than Fed and Nadal - I thought that was common knowledge? That's obvious from his interviews, the types of movies he sees etc.

Nadal at least does read some books though; Fed isn't a book-reader at all and when he talks about movies it's usually James Bond kinda stuff. "Good Will Hunting" is about as "arty" as he goes to my knowledge anyway.

That's a bit judgemental- just because someone doesn't read books and likes James Bond doesn't mean they're not an intellectual. Hell discussing how 'intellectual' players are is pretty pointless. For all we know Fed might watch documentaries on Nietzche right after matches
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Please. He can't even speak English, and that's the most basic requirement.

Plato and Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci and Beethoven couldn't speak English either. Does that mean they weren't intellectuals? :)
 

Hood_Man

Legend
I listen to classical music. The other night I spent 45 minutes looking for my glasses only to realise I was wearing them.

Your theory has flaws.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
Plato and Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci and Beethoven couldn't speak English either. Does that mean they weren't intellectuals? :)

You still haven't figured out that TTMR specializes in sarcasm, have you? You have been falling for his bait for months now.
 

SwankPeRFection

Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, being more intellectual doesn't mean sh** for tennis.

It has already been written that Novak will be no more than just a Joker of the tennis court. Yes, a court jester if you will.

Heck, PR people can't even come up with a good logo for him based on his name like they have for the other record setters. Rafa has a bull = He's from Spain and they have bulls and bull fighters. Roger's initials are part of the word PeRFect. How much more blatantly obvious can that be in terms of his game style? Come on... Pistol Pete had a heck of a serve... and so on and so on. Novak is the Joker. :p
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
LOL.

Fed likes some classical music as well, though I don't think opera. But he's had Beethoven and Chopin pieces on his i-pod. And last year he went with his mom to a Beethoven violin concert in Rotterdam for her b-day. OK, it was a b-day outing for her but doubt they would have gone if he hated that kinda stuff.

Anyway, that said, of course Djoko is more intellectual than Fed and Nadal - I thought that was common knowledge? That's obvious from his interviews, the types of movies he sees etc.

Nadal at least does read some books though; Fed isn't a book-reader at all and when he talks about movies it's usually James Bond kinda stuff. "Good Will Hunting" is about as "arty" as he goes to my knowledge anyway.

Emm, It is not common knowledge and I agree with Jeffery that it is really judgmental to consider someone less intelligent because of their tastes in movies or music.

Anyways, for the sake of argument, Djokovic said that his favorite movie was "Slumdog Millionaire" (ATP interview), he thinks Gangnam Style (and the stupid dance) is awesome, shares David Guetta songs on his twitter page, makes penis jokes, and thinks punching people in the balls is funny...Yes, he is the archetypical intellectual.
 
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SwankPeRFection

Hall of Fame
Anyways, for the sake of argument, Djokovic said that his favorite movie was "Slumdog Millionaire" (ATP interview), he thinks Gangnam Style (and the stupid dance) is awesome, shares David Guetta songs on his twitter page, makes penis jokes, and thinks punching people in the balls is funny...Yes, he is the archetypical intellectual.

This is why I've always said that Nole is the guy you want to "party" and have fun with. He's like the prankster of the bunch, which is why the term "Joker" fits him so well.
 

Goosehead

Legend
Emm, It is not common knowledge and I agree with Jeffery that it is really judgmental to consider someone less intelligent because of their tastes in movies or music.

Anyways, for the sake of argument, Djokovic said that his favorite movie was "Slumdog Millionaire" (ATP interview), he thinks Gangnam Style (and the stupid dance) is awesome, shares David Guetta songs on his twitter page, makes penis jokes, and thinks punching people in the balls is funny...Yes, he is the archetypical intellectual.

makes penis jokes :)..he should do one in his speech if he wins the australian open..

im sure we would all listen in..just that one time though :twisted:
 

Emet74

Professional
Emm, It is not common knowledge and I agree with Jeffery that it is really judgmental to consider someone less intelligent because of their tastes in movies or music.

Less intellectual, not less intelligent.

Novak's penis jokes are neither here nor there; a person can be intellectual and still enjoy/appreciate silliness.
 

ledwix

Hall of Fame
Enoying classical music means it is more likely you have a taste for melodies composed meticulously and analytically in a mode of reflection rather than purely as mass crowdpleasers, but it says nothing intrinsic about one's intellect in general.
 

ruerooo

Legend
Please. He can't even speak English, and that's the most basic requirement.

Wow.

Your ignorance is *really* showing. At least 400 million people in the world speak Spanish. How's yours? How about your Catalan? Your Italian? French?

:roll:
:roll:
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
Wow.

Your ignorance is *really* showing. At least 400 million people in the world speak Spanish. How's yours? How about your Catalan? Your Italian? French?

:roll:
:roll:

I'm sorry my post upset you, but it's 2013. It's easier to learn English than ever. Anyone who wants to be seen as world class individual speaks it. That was the consensus reached here.
 

Rocky89

Professional
I'm sorry my post upset you, but it's 2013. It's easier to learn English than ever. Anyone who wants to be seen as world class individual speaks it. That was the consensus reached here.

The younger you are the easier it is to learn a new language. Nadal only started learning English in his late teens. I migrated to Australia from Europe 20 years ago when I was 4, I picked up English within a couple of weeks, my parents however still have a huge accent and struggle with pronouncing and spelling some words.

Nadal's English is good enough, just because he has a big accent and doesn't have an enormous English vocabulary doesn't make him any less of an intellect than Djokovic or Federer. We can only base intelligence from the content of what they are saying, not by how well they speak English.

Nadal isn't a politician or a world leader who needs to speak flawless English, he is a tennis player.
 

5555

Hall of Fame
!is that a fact, or just more rubbish?

It is a opinion.

OP, that list lost all credibility when it listed Kanye in the honorable mentions section.

Is it a fact that Kanye is not an classical music fan?

Anyways, for the sake of argument, Djokovic said that his favorite movie was "Slumdog Millionaire" (ATP interview), he thinks Gangnam Style (and the stupid dance) is awesome, shares David Guetta songs on his twitter page, makes penis jokes, and thinks punching people in the balls is funny...Yes, he is the archetypical intellectual.

What about Federer and Nadal?

Enoying classical music means it is more likely you have a taste for melodies composed meticulously and analytically in a mode of reflection rather than purely as mass crowdpleasers, but it says nothing intrinsic about one's intellect in general.

Collins Dictionary:
"intellectual = a person who enjoys mental activity and has highly developed tastes in art, literature, etc"
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/intellectual?showCookiePolicy=true

You have got to be joking.

Is it a fact that Djokovic is not more intellectual than Federer and Nadal?
 

Jeffrey573639

Semi-Pro
I got a better topic- Djokovic is Among Top Five Best Tennis Players (and whether he listens to classical or not is totally irrelevant)
 
What about Federer and Nadal?

Is it a fact that Djokovic is not more intellectual than Federer and Nadal?

LOL. Does it even matter? Gangnam, Slumdog, Guetta, djoking around like an ass, wearing wigs in ads... that should settle it for me. But you might be more interested in proving (or at least claiming for a lack of evidence to the contrary i.e. you cannot disprove it, hence it must be true) that Djokovic is the least stupid of a bunch of morons.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I've had that vibe about him from the start. He's not an intellectual in absolute terms (he's an athlete duh) but he seems more articulate and a bit more sophisticated intellectually than a lot of other players.
 

Emet74

Professional
I've had that vibe about him from the start. He's not an intellectual in absolute terms (he's an athlete duh) but he seems more articulate and a bit more sophisticated intellectually than a lot of other players.

Thank you; that's all I've been trying to say. I'd thought it was obvious.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
That's a great film with considerably more artistic value than let's say Rambo, Gladiator or (cough, cough) Dirty Dancing.

I never said Federer's movie choices were more artsy.

Slumdog Millionaire was horrendous and not even close to being "artsy". I guarantee that Djokovic would not consider that movie his favorite anymore. That interview was from March 2009, what happened, most likely, was that Djokovic watched that movie a few weeks earlier and immediately labeled it his favorite movie of all time. Bottom line is that liking blockbusters does not make you a dumb person. Federer's choices pretty much give away that he is not a guy who watches many movies. They are all childhood favorites most likely.
 
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Clarky21

Banned
I never said Federer's movie choices were more artsy. Slumdog Millionaire was horrendous and not even close to being "artsy". I guarantee that Djokovic would not consider that movie his favorite anymore. That interview was from March 2009, what happened, most likely, was that Djokovic watched that movie a few weeks earlier and immediately labeled it his favorite movie of all time.


It was horrendous. He probably picked that movie as his favorite because it was trendy at the time to do so.
 

Emet74

Professional
I never said Federer's movie choices were more artsy.

Slumdog Millionaire was horrendous and not even close to being "artsy". I guarantee that Djokovic would not consider that movie his favorite anymore. That interview was from March 2009, what happened, most likely, was that Djokovic watched that movie a few weeks earlier and immediately labeled it his favorite movie of all time. Bottom line is that liking blockbusters does not make you a dumb person. Federer's choices pretty much give away that he is not a guy who watches many movies. They are all childhood favorites most likely.

Djoko also attended the Cannes festival as I remember. You can say it's a place to "be seen" but still IMO it shows he takes an interest in independant film.

Fed likes "action movies" as he said. He doesn't read books either. I'm not saying he's dumb but people who don't read books are rarely considered "intellectual."

Fed is more of a practical, problem-solving kinda guy. He was a video-game junkie when younger and his coach said his favorite game was some sort of James Bond thing where he had to figure out how to "get into" different rooms and how he was very clever at it. This is stuff that requires mental gymnastics, but it's not what would be called "intellectual."
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I never said Federer's movie choices were more artsy.

Slumdog Millionaire was horrendous and not even close to being "artsy". .


I disagree but that's not the point (Danny Boyle has proven his worth over the years). It's independent filmmaking with more complex themes and ambition than cheesy commercial blockbusters like D.D or pure action films like Rambo. (Not that there is anything wrong with enjoying any of those, you're right)
 
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Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I never said Federer's movie choices were more artsy.

Slumdog Millionaire was horrendous and not even close to being "artsy". I guarantee that Djokovic would not consider that movie his favorite anymore. That interview was from March 2009, what happened, most likely, was that Djokovic watched that movie a few weeks earlier and immediately labeled it his favorite movie of all time. Bottom line is that liking blockbusters does not make you a dumb person. Federer's choices pretty much give away that he is not a guy who watches many movies. They are all childhood favorites most likely.

I seem to remember Djokovic saying his favourite film was 21 grams in one interview, that's a pretty interesting film.
 

Crisstti

Legend
I'm sorry my post upset you, but it's 2013. It's easier to learn English than ever. Anyone who wants to be seen as world class individual speaks it. That was the consensus reached here.

Please do tell us how many languages you speak. I somehow suspect Nadal beats you there.

It was horrendous. He probably picked that movie as his favorite because it was trendy at the time to do so.

I didn't think it was horrendous, but not at all as good as it was made out to be IMO.

Djokovic does seem a bit more "intellectual" than Rafa and Fed (and Rafa more than Fed at that ;))
 
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