Is Murray's 2013 Brisbane Open win hollow?

Peters

Professional
Perhaps. But it's no more hollow than all the many titles Novak, Fed and Rafa have won without playing any of the other top 4.

So in the end it doesn't really mean anything. The top 4 can't always attend the very same tournaments.
 

axel89

Banned
is this a troll thread or something Murray did what he had to do djokovic federer or nadal weren't even in the draw @_@
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Does anybody know what this thread is for?

Murray decided to play a warm-up tourney in Brisbane for match practice (he played there last year as well), Djokovic was off playing another warm-up tourney in Perth for the same reason, Federer was at home hitting a few balls on his practice court while Nadal was off sick!

You don't really think the 4 top players would all knock 7 bells out of each other playing in the same warm-up tourney ahead of a Grand Slam do you??

Can we all go home now?

:rolleyes:
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Does anybody know what this thread is for?

Murray decided to play a warm-up tourney in Brisbane for match practice (he played there last year as well), Djokovic was off playing another warm-up tourney in Perth for the same reason, Federer was at home hitting a few balls on his practice court while Nadal was off sick!

You don't really think the 4 top players would all knock 7 bells out of each other playing in the same warm-up tourney ahead of a Grand Slam do you??

Can we all go home now?

:rolleyes:

Yep - it's a variation on the theme of the 'Were Rafa/Roger's US/RG wins hollow' threads that you'll find further down the board.
 
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kragster

Hall of Fame
I would discount most of Murray's big wins as in most of his big wins , his opponent did not play better than him. For example in USO 2012, Djokovic did not play better than Murray and as a result of this luck, Murray won. Had Djokovic played better than Murray, he(Murray) would have lost.

I struggle to recollect the last title Murray won where his opponent played better than him For me there will always be a big asterisk next to Murray's wins.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I would discount most of Murray's big wins as in most of his big wins , his opponent did not play better than him. For example in USO 2012, Djokovic did not play better than Murray and as a result of this luck, Murray won. Had Djokovic played better than Murray, he(Murray) would have lost.

What on earth are you talking about? Are you trolling or something? How exactly does ANYBODY win a match against an opponent who is playing BETTER?? :confused:

The reason someone wins a match is generally because they are playing BETTER than their opponent (unless the opponent pulls out of the match because of injury). It doesn't matter what the reasons may be why an opponent plays worse, if he plays worse, he loses the match. The better player in the match ALWAYS wins! It's that simple!

I struggle to recollect the last title Murray won where his opponent played better than him For me there will always be a big asterisk next to Murray's wins.

In that case, there must be asterisks against ALL the wins of Djokovic, Federer and Nadal etc. because each time they won a match it was because they were the better player! None of them ever won a match against an opponent who played better than they did!

:confused:
 

kragster

Hall of Fame
What on earth are you talking about? Are you trolling or something? How exactly does ANYBODY win a match against an opponent who is playing BETTER?? :confused:

The reason someone wins a match is generally because they are playing BETTER than their opponent (unless the opponent pulls out of the match because of injury). It doesn't matter what the reasons may be why an opponent plays worse, if he plays worse, he loses the match. The better player in the match ALWAYS wins! It's that simple!



In that case, there must be asterisks against ALL the wins of Djokovic, Federer and Nadal etc. because each time they won a match it was because they were the better player! None of them ever won a match against an opponent who played better than they did!

:confused:

Lol man, you really crack me up with your sincerity! You really need to update your sarcasm meter. I was trolling of course :), do I seem like a Murray hater to you?
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Lol man, you really crack me up with your sincerity! You really need to update your sarcasm meter. I was trolling of course :), do I seem like a Murray hater to you?

Sorry, Kragster. I guess my sarcasm meter is a little off lately. I should have guessed it from what you wrote.

It's just that I've had to swat away so many genuine Murrayphobic nutters on this forum that I guess I've become a little uncertain about who exactly is trolling and who isn't!

Actually, I don't mind a really good troll. I've had the odd dabble myself even against Murray!

:)
 
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