Nadal says that his knee still hurts

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the excuse machine is back in full force... seems he'll really play again, this time !
 

Hood_Man

G.O.A.T.
That knee will probably bother him in some way forever. Small price to pay to live the life of a beloved, handsome millionaire for the rest of his life? Maybe.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I think it will hurt until he retires.

The issue is how much it hurts, and whether it is structurally sound enough to play. Nagging pain is something a lot of players deal with. Sometimes they probably shouldn't, but they do.
 
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ivan_the_terrible

Hall of Fame
My head still hurts after so many years of reading about knadal's knees.

Me thinks he should go visit a competent naturopathic doctor to remedy his condition.
Modern medicine has failed this young man miserably - PRP comes to mind. It's time he considers acupuncture (not even as painful as PRP injections), some chiropractic manipulation such as vertebral subluxation and a steady treatment of magnetotherapy. Magnetotherapy-type bands can be worn over the knees, thereby strengthening his musculature in that area and since he's been wearing knee bandages for so long, shouldn't be uncomfortable.
 

ultradr

Legend
I think it will hurt until he retires.

The issue is how much it hurts, and whether it is strutucally sound enough to play. Nagging pain is something a lot of players deal with. Sometimes they probably shouldn't, but they do.


I agree. He has chronic structural problem on his knee and ankle.
As I recall he uses orthotics.

He has had this kind of injury break from tour since he was a teenager.
 
Of course he says it still hurts - so if he loses it was because of the knee, and if he wins he's a hero warrior - a giant among men - because he played through the intense pain.
 

Murrayfan31

Hall of Fame
The key is he needs to give his body more short breaks. It will be an ongoing problem. Stupid for him to play 3 tournaments in a month. But Nadal tends to do dumb things like this.
 

TheCanadian

Semi-Pro
He should just retire if his knees are that bad that even a very long break didn't heel them propertly. Why continue if you're not healthy?
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
He's gonna try his best to come back, despite the pain. That's all he can do at the moment. I hope he knows he has his fans' 100% support in this endeavor, no matter what the outcome happens to be.
 

ivan_the_terrible

Hall of Fame
He's gonna try his best to come back, despite the pain. That's all he can do at the moment. I hope he knows he has his fans' 100% support in this endeavor, no matter what the outcome happens to be.

Rafa appreciates that you think he's gorgeous, he will climb any mountain, swim any ocean, wrestle alligators just for you.
 

TheCheese

Professional
If any of you guys have read his book, Nadal has a foot problem which means he has to wear special insoles to even be able to play. The insoles cause his movement to put extra strain on his knees, so no matter what, his knees are always going to have extra strain on them, even if he moved as gracefully as Federer.

I think it's a misconception that his style of play is what causes his knee problems. There are plenty of players out there who grind even more than Nadal, and their knees are just fine.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
If any of you guys have read his book, Nadal has a foot problem which means he has to wear special insoles to even be able to play. The insoles cause his movement to put extra strain on his knees, so no matter what, his knees are always going to have extra strain on them, even if he moved as gracefully as Federer.

I think it's a misconception that his style of play is what causes his knee problems. There are plenty of players out there who grind even more than Nadal, and their knees are just fine.



I know, I've been trying to drive that point through a few times. But people just ignore what they want to ignore. Still, fact is his knee problems have nothing to do with "style of play". It makes sense, otherwise other superlative defensers like Murray, Djoko and Ferrer would all have their knees shot as well. (And ironically, Ferrer has had his most successful season at 30 years old!)
 

ultradr

Legend
If any of you guys have read his book, Nadal has a foot problem which means he has to wear special insoles to even be able to play. The insoles cause his movement to put extra strain on his knees, so no matter what, his knees are always going to have extra strain on them, even if he moved as gracefully as Federer.

I think it's a misconception that his style of play is what causes his knee problems. There are plenty of players out there who grind even more than Nadal, and their knees are just fine.

I think so. "Main" factor of it is the condition he was born with.
All players in this generation have to grind out a lot of points.
Nadal actually has lots of easy points due to his lefty's advantage.

Maybe Federer is most efficient in his serving games and that helps his
longevity but...
 
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RAFA2005RG

Banned
Good news is Nadal will never be 100%.

Good news, Djokovic has no idea how to beat Nadal at Roland Garros, even when Nadal had his knee numbed in 2012, and even after Djokovic had the biggest mental edge anyone has ever seen. That's how far ahead of the pack Nadal is at Roland Garros.
 

raging

Professional
I know, I've been trying to drive that point through a few times. But people just ignore what they want to ignore. Still, fact is his knee problems have nothing to do with "style of play". It makes sense, otherwise other superlative defensers like Murray, Djoko and Ferrer would all have their knees shot as well. (And ironically, Ferrer has had his most successful season at 30 years old!)

There is more in this though. Nadal moves very well but doesn't get aligned behind the ball as efficiently as Murray, Joker & Federer. When he hits on the run he is often not in alignment. Unfortunately I would have to post lots of video on here to support this and this is my opinion only.

Having written that I don't think anybody is really aligned perfectly when defending, Joker looks like he will sometimes snap in half, Murray grabs the back of his leg, federer looks like it really annoys him that he has to defend!

I have discounted Ferrer because I don't think he really defends, under pressure from Djoker he just hit less hard but no real defensive digging or lobs, slices, junk balls. He plays a great game left, right, corner to corner..all day long...against anyone bar the top 4 on medium, slow courts-very effective. But those guys have seen it all before & know how to break it down. The defense has to be better sometimes.

Point taken with Rafa's knees, they knew when he was 19 that he would get problems. He has been on borrowed time since then.Changing his movement pattern would have been useless, beefing up his serve, shortening points, coming in & volleying made more sense.
Just hope he can get back & compete at RG & Wimbledon, try to duck major hardcourt swing & just do what he can.
If he can't the game has lost a great champion.
 

RAFA2005RG

Banned
Let's face it, Nadal is done.

He better be, or else this year he becomes the first man in history to win slams for 9 years in a row. Watching Nadal own that record would make a mockery out of the 'early retirement theorists' such as yourself....
 

NLBwell

Legend
Just because his knees are in pain doesn't mean he can't play tennis as well as ever. Every NFL player and most NBA players play in pain. What would reduce his effectiveness is if the injury causes him to be less mobile. I don't know one way or the other about that, we will see how he comes back, but I'm sure he is truly in pain
He could always just trim his schedule to clay and grass with an occasional hard-court event that might be important to him.
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
If any of you guys have read his book, Nadal has a foot problem which means he has to wear special insoles to even be able to play. The insoles cause his movement to put extra strain on his knees, so no matter what, his knees are always going to have extra strain on them, even if he moved as gracefully as Federer.
didn't read the book, but i saw the movie ! :)

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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
if his knee hurts then why is he coming back already ? and how did he dominate everybody with this bad knee in French open 2012 ?
 

djones

Hall of Fame
He better be, or else this year he becomes the first man in history to win slams for 9 years in a row. Watching Nadal own that record would make a mockery out of the 'early retirement theorists' such as yourself....

Will you just never stop!?
I feel sick every time I come across one your stupid posts.
 
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nikdom

Guest
Tell us something new. Knee, foot, long season, too much drug testing, too many hard court events, 2 yr ranking, indoor is not real tennis.... All this guy does is complain.

Perhaps he should take up fly fishing as a sport since he likes it so much. Oh wait, if he started competing, perhaps he would find excuses there too....water is too cold, Mirka is scaring the fish away, injured finger, carpal tunnel syndrome.

Sheesh
 

Crisstti

Legend
if his knee hurts then why is he coming back already ? and how did he dominate everybody with this bad knee in French open 2012 ?

Because pain doesn't necessarily hamper movement. It must have gotten worse after that.

For that matter, see Madrid 2005.

He said he "has" to play now. So I guess he just feels the break has been too long already. He probably never expected it to last so long.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Murray was basically born with a broken kneecap why doesnt anyone ever make big news of this? ...

Because it doesn't give him anywhere near the problems Nadal's foot and knees give him? Because it hasn't kept him out the game for several stretches of time with the latest injury time out lasting nearly a year?
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
He's gonna try his best to come back, despite the pain. That's all he can do at the moment. I hope he knows he has his fans' 100% support in this endeavor, no matter what the outcome happens to be.

He must be petrified of some of his fans on Twitter. They are downright embarrassing and they practically stalk Nadal. You have grown women and men who do nothing but talk about Nadal ALL day on Twitter. These are grown people, what kind of behavior is that? It is sickening. Nadal must laugh his *** off at these type of fans.
 

Clarky21

Banned
He must be petrified of some of his fans on Twitter. They are downright embarrassing and they practically stalk Nadal. You have grown women and men who do nothing but talk about Nadal ALL day on Twitter. These are grown people, what kind of behavior is that? It is sickening. Nadal must laugh his *** off at these type of fans.

Wow. I have only been on his Twitter a couple of times when he first started it up, but I have never posted anything on there. What's the kind of stuff do they say? Hopefully, he won't be able to read it anyway if they post it in English.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Wow. I have only been on his Twitter a couple of times when he first started it up, but I have never posted anything on there. What's the kind of stuff do they say? Hopefully, he won't be able to read it anyway if they post it in English.

You have to go on Twitter and check it out. There are some real deranged and obsessive fans. Federer has those type of fans too. It is scary and I can just imagine Nadal and Federer laughing their a$$es off at these type of fans. It is all well and good to be a fan of a player and support that player but many of these people live and breathe these players. They talk about crying all day when they hear of Nadal's latest injury problem and how they can't cope, etc. etc. These people need professional psychological help. You would laugh your head off, check it out.
 
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