Andy Murray - One Slam Wonder?

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Hawkeye7

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Andy Murray - One Wind Slam Wonder?

He hasn't won a Major in over 4 months. I just don't think we can expect much after witnessing the poor form he's been showcasing lately... It all started when he lost one set in Brisbane and needed 5 sets to beat a barely moving Federer, playing the worst match of his career. I mean, he hasn't even played a final in 2 weeks or won a match for that matter. He's clearly hopeless as it's very unlikely that wind will aid him to another outdoor title ever again.
 
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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Murray has been playing fantastic since Wimbledon. Other than Canada and Tokyo, he's only lost to Fed and Djoko (and beat both of them as well) and he's made 3 slam finals in a row. I expect great results from him this year (except maybe on clay).
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
He hasn't won a Major in over 4 months. I just don't think we can expect much after witnessing the poor form he's been showcasing lately... It all started when he lost one set in Brisbane and needed 5 sets to beat a barely moving Federer, playing the worst match of his career. I mean, he hasn't even played a final in 2 weeks or won a match for that matter. He's clearly hopeless as it's very unlikely that wind will aid him to another outdoor title ever again.

Beautifully put.

As you've rightly stated, It's been weeks since a British male made a slam final and over 4 months since a Brit won one of the bloody things.

Will these days of hurt never end? Won't the tennis tornado gods relent and give Albion's finest a second flukey win?
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
He hasn't won a Major in over 4 months.

There's only been two Majors in the last 4 months! :)

I just don't think we can expect much after witnessing the poor form he's been showcasing lately... It all started when he lost one set in Brisbane and needed 5 sets to beat a barely moving Federer, playing the worst match of his career.

I thought the worst match of Fed's career was the Olympic final? :wink:

I mean, he hasn't even played a final in 2 weeks or won a match for that matter. He's clearly hopeless as it's very unlikely that wind will aid him to another outdoor title ever again.

Well you never know with his luck. He's the luckiest guy ever to play tennis. Didn't you know? :)

(PS. Nice bit of trolling. My responses were only for those who think you're being serious!)

:)
 

90's Clay

Banned
Nahh.. Murray will manage another 2-3 slams at least. Fed and Nadal all on their way out, Nole won't dominate EVERY slam, and no depth at all in the men's game.
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
I thought the worst match of Fed's career was the Olympic final? :wink:

That doesn't count because Fed just felt sorry for Murray. I mean, he tired himself out deliberately in the semis so he could assure Murray got at least one meaningful win in his career. Such a nice and caring guy, this Swiss bloke.

(PS. Nice bit of trolling. My responses were only for those who think you're being serious!)

I'm dead serious.
 

spperry

Rookie
I think he will win a couple more at least.

The AO was very close for first 2 sets and is Djokovic's best slam.

I think he has a good chance at both Wimbledon and US Open.
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
murray is almost 26. he's past his prime and won't win another slam. he was extremely lucky to win the one he did. he will make several more finals though and will go down as the worst slam finals player in history.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
murray is almost 26. he's past his prime and won't win another slam. he was extremely lucky to win the one he did. he will make several more finals though and will go down as the worst slam finals player in history.

Luckiest player ever to play the game.

Tell me - in which of the last 3 slam finals did Murray hit his prime? It's just that he's made 3 finals in the last year against 3 finals in the previous 6 - I guess most people would look at that data and conclude that Murray is still on the up - so I'm wondering what insight you have that suggests otherwise?

BTW didn't you say that Murray would never win a slam? Do you always double up when you're wrong?
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
murray is almost 26. he's past his prime and won't win another slam. he was extremely lucky to win the one he did. he will make several more finals though and will go down as the worst slam finals player in history.
I always admire the confidence in these absolute statements. *in love*
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
Luckiest player ever to play the game.

Tell me - in which of the last 3 slam finals did Murray hit his prime? It's just that he's made 3 finals in the last year against 3 finals in the previous 6 - I guess most people would look at that data and conclude that Murray is still on the up - so I'm wondering what insight you have that suggests otherwise?

BTW didn't you say that Murray would never win a slam? Do you always double up when you're wrong?

He's just responding to the reality of the facts at hand. Delusional thinking has always been a mainstay of Murray and his fans. He lucked out to get the one he did. If Nadal was playing, Murray would still have no slams and go down as one of the biggest failures in tennis history.

Murray is a wind-slam wonder. Deal with it. Try winning 17 slams--legitimately--I might add, then we'll talk.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
He's just responding to the reality of the facts at hand. Delusional thinking has always been a mainstay of Murray and his fans. He lucked out to get the one he did. If Nadal was playing, Murray would still have no slams and go down as one of the biggest failures in tennis history.

Murray is a wind-slam wonder. Deal with it. Try winning 17 slams--legitimately--I might add, then we'll talk.

:) Genius. Pure genius.
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
Today:

He's just responding to the reality of the facts at hand. Delusional thinking has always been a mainstay of Murray and his fans. He lucked out to get the one he did. If Nadal was playing, Murray would still have no slams and go down as one of the biggest failures in tennis history.

Murray is a wind-slam wonder. Deal with it. Try winning 17 slams--legitimately--I might add, then we'll talk.

October 2011:

For the last point, see Murray vs. Djokovic in Rome. That was arguably the best match of the year. Murray was two service points away from defeating Djokovic, who was playing some of his best tennis this season. In 2011, Murray is at least on par with Federer, and prize money/points to date reflect that. Honestly, I'm under the impression you only watch slams and glean everything about a player from that. In fact, it is clearly the case if you think "Murray has been nowhere except Tokyo lulz". Do I have to list the number of Masters titles he won where he has beaten 'the big three'?

Again I ask, which is more likely? That Murray overachieves in lower level tournaments and has just skated by on luck and relative indifference of Nadal, Federer and Djokovic? Or that he underachieves in slams due to his mentality?

Murray is the more dynamic player because he can employ successfully a wider number of shots and tactics. I think for the same reason Federer, for instance, is a more dynamic player than Djokovic or Nadal.

Before 2011, this forum was mocking and deriding Djokovic as a 'mental midget with the heart of a loser'. If you had claimed he had a 'champion's mentality' one year ago today, you would have been ridiculed. In 2010, Djokovic was essentially in the same position Murray is now. Sure, everyone forgets it now that the bandwagon has picked up full steam, but Djokovic was constantly derided for his racquet smashing, injury time outs and self-flagellation on the court. He had a slam under his belt, but he was usually dismissed as a one slam wonder.

So when exactly did you change your tune?
 

The Bawss

Banned
He's just responding to the reality of the facts at hand. Delusional thinking has always been a mainstay of Murray and his fans. He lucked out to get the one he did. If Nadal was playing, Murray would still have no slams and go down as one of the biggest failures in tennis history.

Murray is a wind-slam wonder. Deal with it. Try winning 17 slams--legitimately--I might add, then we'll talk.

Beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye.
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
Luckiest player ever to play the game.

Tell me - in which of the last 3 slam finals did Murray hit his prime? It's just that he's made 3 finals in the last year against 3 finals in the previous 6 - I guess most people would look at that data and conclude that Murray is still on the up - so I'm wondering what insight you have that suggests otherwise?

BTW didn't you say that Murray would never win a slam? Do you always double up when you're wrong?

His prime was 2011. He has done better at slams only because Nadal is out of the picture and Fed is even older.

I did say that and, as far as I'm concerned, Murray never won that slam. He was gifted it by the extreme wind and his "win" should have an asterix next to it. I guess you could hope for another freak of nature, but I'm betting against it.
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
His prime was 2011. He has done better at slams only because Nadal is out of the picture and Fed is even older.

I did say that and, as far as I'm concerned, Murray never won that slam. He was gifted it by the extreme wind and his "win" should have an asterix next to it. I guess you could hope for another freak of nature, but I'm betting against it.

Was Asterix at the Olympic Games too?
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
His prime was 2011. He has done better at slams only because Nadal is out of the picture and Fed is even older.

I did say that and, as far as I'm concerned, Murray never won that slam. He was gifted it by the extreme wind and his "win" should have an asterix next to it. I guess you could hope for another freak of nature, but I'm betting against it.

What I am most looking forward to in 2013 is seeing who will win the US Open after last year's forfeiture.
 

jones101

Hall of Fame
I think he will win 4/5, but regardless, his slam has cemented him as a legend of tennis in the UK.

He already has a Roddick like career, and has a very good chance to build on that. In the end, I think he will be a shade below the Edburg level greats.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
His prime was 2011. He has done better at slams only because Nadal is out of the picture and Fed is even older.

I did say that and, as far as I'm concerned, Murray never won that slam. He was gifted it by the extreme wind and his "win" should have an asterix next to it. I guess you could hope for another freak of nature, but I'm betting against it.

So Murray's prime was a year where he performed worse than last year? That's an interesting take you have on the data - still; it's not like you have credibility or anything - what with you being so absolutely, utterly and completely wrong about Murray winning a slam.

Yep - it was truly freakish how the wind only blew at Novak's end - and as for the zero pressure wind that blew in the fifth set - that really was something to behold - or not, as the case may be.

And Rafa would definitely have beaten Murray at the USO - just as he would definitely have beaten Nole in the semis. Only a fool would think otherwise.
 
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batz

G.O.A.T.
No, but Del Po was. And Murray can thank him for his gold medal.

You really should cry some more- you don't sound in any way butthurt about Murray's success.

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This thread will not look so funny in 5 years time, when Murray is about 30, and, actually you will find that he IS a one-slam wonder, and, in fact never even made another GS final again.

In fact, I shall go ahead with my prediction: Murray will never be in the final of a slam again.

Bump it when it rings true.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
This thread will not look so funny in 5 years time, when Murray is about 30, and, actually you will find that he IS a one-slam wonder, and, in fact never even made another GS final again.

In fact, I shall go ahead with my prediction: Murray will never be in the final of a slam again.

Bump it when it rings true.

Epic! I love your 'Murray won't' threads. The series you did last year under one of your previous usernames during Wimbledon was immense.

You and Whiskey should get a room - for guys who make wrong predictions.
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
No, but Del Po was. And Murray can thank him for his gold medal.

Considering I have just ruined my reputation and should probably hang my head in shame and leave the forum, I don't think I have the credentials to argue against such strong logic.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I did say that and, as far as I'm concerned, Murray never won that slam. He was gifted it by the extreme wind and his "win" should have an asterix next to it. I guess you could hope for another freak of nature, but I'm betting against it.

Yeah yeah sure, you go on telling that to yourself and one day in the dim and distant future, you may actually bring yourself to believe it!

Now remember: Just because you hate a player, it doesn't mean they can't play! Keep repeating it daily and one day, who knows, you may post something on here that actually makes sense and which doesn't make sensible, reasonable posters fall about laughing!

There's always hope...even for you!

;-)
 

axel89

Banned
As you can see on here, Murray attracts more than his fair share of them for some peculiar reason!

yeah i've noticed the bawws was saying that murray will never win a slam and when he did he was saying that there was so much wind that that slam never counted
 

Homeboy Hotel

Hall of Fame
If players can't adapt to the conditions, does that mean they don't deserve to win?

Does this mean Nadal's 2008 Wimbledon does not count as the match got interupted by numerous rain delays?

And the Olympic Gold medal won by Nadal should also be revoked as he was riding false confidence from his Wimbledon win?

Keep it real people.
 

Homeboy Hotel

Hall of Fame
This thread will not look so funny in 5 years time, when Murray is about 30, and, actually you will find that he IS a one-slam wonder, and, in fact never even made another GS final again.

In fact, I shall go ahead with my prediction: Murray will never be in the final of a slam again.

Bump it when it rings true.

He's just responding to the reality of the facts at hand. Delusional thinking has always been a mainstay of Murray and his fans. He lucked out to get the one he did. If Nadal was playing, Murray would still have no slams and go down as one of the biggest failures in tennis history.

Murray is a wind-slam wonder. Deal with it. Try winning 17 slams--legitimately--I might add, then we'll talk.

murray is almost 26. he's past his prime and won't win another slam. he was extremely lucky to win the one he did. he will make several more finals though and will go down as the worst slam finals player in history.



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Mainad

Bionic Poster
What I am most looking forward to in 2013 is seeing who will win the US Open after last year's forfeiture.

Well, it's not going to be a 'who' is it, it will clearly be a 'what'. My money is on a close-fought 5 setter between the wind and the rain. Not sure yet which of them will lift the trophy!
 

Netspirit

Hall of Fame
What climate change? There are ALWAYS hurricanes at the US Open!

But recently they became more frequent and started to last longer, allowing Murray to progress through the entire draw and win tournaments he is not supposed to win. If this climate trend continues, hitting to the middle of the court will become the only way to land your shots in, and Murray will dominate the USO and other outdoor events too.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
But recently they became more frequent and started to last longer, allowing Murray to progress through the entire draw and win tournaments he is not supposed to win. If this climate trend continues, hitting to the middle of the court will become the only way to land your shots in, and Murray will dominate the USO and other outdoor events too.

Wow, and as it is now too late to stop climate change this means Murray will win everything he plays as he is the only player who knows how to cope with climate change!

He will be the new GOAT and will finish his career on 30+ Majors, at least a dozen WTFs and at least 20 more Masters.

Fed, Djoko and Rafa will eat their hearts outs. They're just climate change LOSERS!

:)
 
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