Bash and Crash
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How much can u really say about candy and cell phones?? I would rather hear about other juniors.
Bravo needs to start a show called Tennis Dads........
How much can u really say about candy and cell phones?? I would rather hear about other juniors.
Bravo needs to start a show called Tennis Dads........
I would LOVE a show like that!!!!
I am not passive aggressive, I am simply aggressive and do not pretend otherwise.
This is simple....for a college level player his results are top notch. For a player looking to skip college and go right to the pros, his results are mediocre.
Now go for it....list the wins I belittle.....by the way, am I missing the goal of tennis, to actually win tournaments?
BTW. Tennis parents have nothing on Hockey parents. If there was a show Hockey parents would get produced first.
Well, you'd never see this on the Hockey Parent show:
"My kid has a 5.2 GPA (weighted), with 2400 SATs, and 37 AP courses that were started in middle school. And it's not because the kid is so smart, it's the way I taught him"
Sounds like some of the kids I've taught.........2300 on SAT is complete failure to some around here
Sure, Djokovic was called the "greatest tennis talent since Monica Seles" by her coach at a young age.
By age 14 he had won the European championships in singles, doubles, and team competition.
At age 14 he went to the semis of a junior grand slam.
Between the ages of 15 and 17 he won 3 futures events, and 3 challengers events.
Anyone else want to play?
Its too late for that....winning a Zoo when he is almost 19 will be a worthless accomplishment as far as the pros go.
LOL.
How do you come up with these things?
Says who?
Anyway....isn't the boy 16 right now anyway?
He just does , plain and simple ,
we when a futures or 2 this year what will be said heres my guess ,the field was weak , most of the players were burnt out , maybe the players he played were sick ! on and on
I just hope for his sake if he wants his girl to go pro he comes up with a game plan that has goals , milestones, but if results are what determine it good luck to him .
Remeber this is the guy that said one of the top recruits "D1"in the nation at 16 would go to a D2 college.
Pointed at Boluda as the next top ATP player cause he Le Petite
also said DB would get crushed by the players from Europe who were raised on clay yet when DB met one of their top clay court player left him in tears on the court .
He has his opinion
What tournaments? You have to WIN tournaments in tennis. Every top player has WINS at age 15-17, all of them.
Tell me one tournament of note he has won? You can not list them because there are not ANY! Not one Herr, not one jr slam, not one futures, not one top ITF, not won OB, not one Zoo. Its too late for that....winning a Zoo when he is almost 19 will be a worthless accomplishment as far as the pros go.
Going to round of 16 or semis is totally different than WINNING a tournament. Closing out the finals of a big tournament time after time separates the best players from the rest.
I again disagree that its a lottery. Its not. Once a kid has trained solely for tennis for 12 years and has grown to their size...it is what it is, they are about where their ceiling will be.
He is 6'5" and has trained only for tennis since age 5-6. There will be no big growth spurt to wait for, no late into tennis so he will take time to develop to wait for. He will get better, sure....but not nearly enough to make money at tennis.
Its not a lottery....that Japanese kid is still alive in the hunt, the Aussie kid is alive in the hunt....DB is not. We know just about where his ceiling is. Its that simple. He does not know the tactics and strategy and anticipation skills required and its too late to change that. He does not win tournaments of note and that will not change.
Tennis is about elimination....we do not know who will make money in tennis, but we do know the players that are eliminated along the way by age 15-17. Some players then remain in the pool of possible money makers.
andfor.....never said anything about Boluda besides that I saw him play years ago and he was very good back then. Never predicted a thing for him. Have no idea where BB even got that.
If anyone is "moving the bar" its you and BB. You guys keep lowering it or just changing its meaning. It went from "next Nadal" "I know how to raise a #1 pro player" to "will be #1 ranked 18 in a year" to "will win the Zoo at age 16" to "juniors don't matter" "will make our move at age 17" to "futures are not a good indicator" to "going to take some time then make our move".
By the way BB...enough with the weight gain and lifting, thats not his issue. He hits fine, he is strong enough.
His issues I told you from the scouts are he lacks tactics, strategy, and anticipation. Thats not going to come from his fitness training.
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He learned a tough one in Mexico the guy he was playing double faulted match point ,everybody started clapping ,both players started walking forward only to have the ref overrule , DB began arguing with the ref and had and exchange where he fronted the other player up and look to throw blows with him for taunting him over the call then came out in the 3 rd crushing the ball and lost the match , 7 5 in the 3rd ,"anger" and power don't mix , to add insult to injury the other guy went on to win the tourney ,he was able to see this guy had no fear of him like most jrs do on court.
This i heard from the coach who was with him down there ,kinda funny to me but the other coach said had he got through he was home free and these are the lessons I hope don't have to be learned over and over and will be good .
andfor.....never said anything about Boluda besides that I saw him play years ago and he was very good back then. Never predicted a thing for him. Have no idea where BB even got that.
If anyone is "moving the bar" its you and BB. You guys keep lowering it or just changing its meaning. It went from "next Nadal" "I know how to raise a #1 pro player" to "will be #1 ranked 18 in a year" to "will win the Zoo at age 16" to "juniors don't matter" "will make our move at age 17" to "futures are not a good indicator" to "going to take some time then make our move".
Coach #1: How are your player's serve and forehand developing? I don't think he can make it counter punching. How do you make the transition from counter puncher to aggressive all courter? Are you willing to sacrifice some wins to go to a more offensive style? Are you willing to bring someone is just as a consultant to work on a more aggressive game plan? I'm serious.
do they have different scoring system in Mexico? According to ITF site the score was 5-7 6-3 5-7 (btw. good result, very close match). Given that score - how is it possible to have a match point, lose it, --and-- "then came out in the 3 rd crushing the ball and lost the match , 7 5 in the 3rd"??
You've done it with nearly every tournament. I won't list them. So there, nanny nanny boo boo.
I'm not saying your position is wrong, and I'm not saying BB is right. It's just the same old argument for the last 4-5 years. And you make good points about college. We know your being realistic in your own way. But BB knows the risk reward model here. Lord knows you've beat it into him.
Like telling someone they won't win the lottery, you'll probably be right. Then again maybe BB has the lottery ticket. Let it play out. You can type your fingers off and it won't change anything.
Let it go man.
BTW. Tennis parents have nothing on Hockey parents. If there was a show Hockey parents would get produced first.
Coach #1: How are your player's serve and forehand developing? I don't think he can make it counter punching. How do you make the transition from counter puncher to aggressive all courter? Are you willing to sacrifice some wins to go to a more offensive style? Are you willing to bring someone is just as a consultant to work on a more aggressive game plan? I'm serious.
we when a futures or 2 this year what will be said heres my guess ,the field was weak , most of the players were burnt out , maybe the players he played were sick ! on and on
Totally agree with the "let it play out" comment. All the Monday morning quarterback bunk and crystal ball joo-joo that transpires here is so counter-productive.
I am rooting for DB to have a pro career, but if he wins 1 or 2 Futures this year I will be astonished, and I certainly won't try to hide my astonishment by claiming that the field was weak or any of that nonsense. A Futures is very hard to win.
I am rooting for DB to have a pro career, but if he wins 1 or 2 Futures this year I will be astonished, and I certainly won't try to hide my astonishment by claiming that the field was weak or any of that nonsense. A Futures is very hard to win.
Everybody is rooting for DB, I just hate it when it gets ugly here.
I really did not see that from him when he played Peliwo. Maybe he wasn't confident playing the best player in the field, a much older player. What I saw from him was typical of a top junior. Hit hard in spots, make every ball, play offense sometimes. No clear consistent pattern of attack and game plan to win the match. Like I say all the time to my kids: your are not playing tennis you are hitting a ball back and forth. Tennis means thinking, tactics, strategy, and most important- adjustments. By the time my players adjust- they have already lost the match. He needs a clear concise pro level game plan for every match.As for counter puncher he has never been that he has always had and aggressive style we have for the last year or so been having him play more defense cause the offensive style is already there , as for the serve we just spent 2 months reworking it and will continue to make adjustments along the way , his forehand also , I know you may get this , it's a work in process ,seriously when someone continues to put on size it's a real pain in the rear for development , coming from a sport where 4 pounds can take away your knock out power or decrease your speed its easier to accept what I am dealing with .
As for bring on a consultant we have a place in Bradenton that he attends and when he is there we work with one of the top coaches at least 2 to 3 times a week and his staff but as for here in Ca there is only one other coach I trust !
I really did not see that from him when he played Peliwo. Maybe he wasn't confident playing the best player in the field, a much older player. What I saw from him was typical of a top junior. Hit hard in spots, make every ball, play offense sometimes. No clear consistent pattern of attack and game plan to win the match. Like I say all the time to my kids: your are not playing tennis you are hitting a ball back and forth. Tennis means thinking, tactics, strategy, and most important- adjustments. By the time my players adjust- they have already lost the match. He needs a clear concise pro level game plan for every match.
well one of the things I have learned about tennis is to watch a player over at least 4 to 6 matches before I make and judgement on him and how he plays , somethings will show right away , the way he hits , his favorite weapon ,ect but styles of players sometimes shut a player down , Peliwo ,the moment may have played a part, next big stage OB played extremely aggressive hugged the baseline over powered players , will just have to see what happens but if your here in Ca would love you to bring over this player you have that hits big and see how he does against your player who was taught by you , maybe we can learn something ?
Coaching32years ,Thats the problem with almost all of the juniors i see play. They do not start playing the pro style game until its too late. My 11 year old daughter plays a pro style game already. She loses alot now but we are building for the future. She replicates professional patterns and hits full out on every ball.The problem with teaching this game is parents want results early and dont see the big picture. In my opinion its a must that kids learn to play this way at a very young age if they wanna have any chance to make it on the next level. I see 99.99% of the girls 12 and under play just defending and running down balls.
You are absolutely right. Have to see a player at least 3 or 4 matches to make any judgements- so what I said about US Open not fair. But.......
Ga tennis is right. You have done an incredible job. To get to to the next level he needs a strategy, tactics guru in addition to you. I just watched Querey in San Jose. He knows exactly when to go high and heavy, when to flatten it out, when to go down the line, when to pull the trigger. Has to be taught- need a guru.
I really did not see that from him when he played Peliwo. Maybe he wasn't confident playing the best player in the field, a much older player. What I saw from him was typical of a top junior. Hit hard in spots, make every ball, play offense sometimes. No clear consistent pattern of attack and game plan to win the match. Like I say all the time to my kids: your are not playing tennis you are hitting a ball back and forth. Tennis means thinking, tactics, strategy, and most important- adjustments. By the time my players adjust- they have already lost the match. He needs a clear concise pro level game plan for every match.
Brad i think you are an incredible coach!!!!! You have helped me MANY times!! I think my daughters coach could help Deit soooo much!!! He is an ATP coach as well as a WTA coach with over 90 pro titles with the players hes coached. He has over 20 years experience coaching on the pro tour. HE GETS IT!!!!!! He would want you top remain Deits coach because he always says that the best coaches are parents. I consider you a good friend of mine and i have followed Deit since he was 12. I know without a shadow of a doubt that he can take Deit to the next level along with your help.like i I said we work from time to time in person with one of the best coaches the game has seen , we also stay in touch with him and his staff ,they like where it is and where they see it going as for a guru there are none in So.Cal other then probably Lanthorp or and assistant coach I know at UCLA but he is to busy with a bunch of girls .
But if you have names of these gurus you talk about please list them then i can check there resumes and see if they have ever dealt with the transition you believe is there and I am incapable of completing , really give me some names ?
Brad i think you are an incredible coach!!!!! You have helped me MANY times!! I think my daughters coach could help Deit soooo much!!! He is an ATP coach as well as a WTA coach with over 90 pro titles with the players hes coached. He has over 20 years experience coaching on the pro tour. HE GETS IT!!!!!! He would want you top remain Deits coach because he always says that the best coaches are parents. I consider you a good friend of mine and i have followed Deit since he was 12. I know without a shadow of a doubt that he can take Deit to the next level along with your help.
BB....I think people get the wrong idea that I am 'rooting against DB'....I hope he finds fame and fortune and has an amazing life. But I just do not think this tennis thing is some magical mystery trip. I think we can predict when a player is about at their ceiling.
If your rooting then why would you a couple of post ago suggest DB skip the Zoo ?
Any coach that knows there stuff knows our goals would never suggest that unless it would put that player in a place where this whole blog would ask them "now what do you say"?
TCF your affections are superficial at best , you speak with a double tongue, you deep down hope we fail and your entitled to that!! but when you make suggestions like skip the Zoo I laugh , every top ITF player would love to have a shot at the Zoo ! so you must Remember I am from the streets I see a hustle pretty fast and thats all it is .
BTW DB at 16 is at his ceiling hahahahah??
If your talking Waters he is solid and would have and open ear always have, the only problem is where he is and where we are CA vs Atlanta , so theres where the problem starts , would we relocate to him , how would this work ?
We have who we have and the arrangements we have received in Bradenton are ideal for now , GA development is a process I am willing to be patient with I have 4 to 5 years according to most on here with the average age of top 100 players being 26 shoot thats 10 years away so there is plenty of time .
I understand that winning Jr events means nothing , its the level your at and as of right now DB is equivalent to any player top 20 ITF and if we had started playing ITF's last year full time he would no doubt be top 5 right now , he went from 633 to 150 in 2 or 3 tourneys , so we know what a whole year would do with this beast .
Borna turned pro already he got a taste of whats out there , we hit with the kid from Italy Luigi at the US open for almost 2 hrs he couldn't keep up either he also is pro from what I am told , so we see the level the only difference is these kids play a lot and there is a mental side but once we settle in we will take care of business .
I also agree Deit is not near his ceiling. All the big guys take a little longer to develop.BB....I think people get the wrong idea that I am 'rooting against DB'....I hope he finds fame and fortune and has an amazing life. But I just do not think this tennis thing is some magical mystery trip. I think we can predict when a player is about at their ceiling.
If your rooting then why would you a couple of post ago suggest DB skip the Zoo ?
Any coach that knows there stuff knows our goals would never suggest that unless it would put that player in a place where this whole blog would ask them "now what do you say"?
TCF your affections are superficial at best , you speak with a double tongue, you deep down hope we fail and your entitled to that!! but when you make suggestions like skip the Zoo I laugh , every top ITF player would love to have a shot at the Zoo ! so you must Remember I am from the streets I see a hustle pretty fast and thats all it is .
BTW DB at 16 is at his ceiling hahahahah??
You are the one with the double speak....make up your mind....juniors do not matter, now they do, then they do not.
As far as 'hoping you fail'.....I said what I meant, that I wish DB success in life. That success though will not come from money making tennis, it will come from something else.