Federer fans need to warm up to Murray

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monfed

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Looking at Djoker's horrid form,it looks unlikely that he'll beat Ralph given the form Ralph is in,even after an 8 month layoff. :shock:

Rodge is in terminal decline and this could be his worst year on tour since his debut,even. I can't see him beating Ralph at any slam, at this point though I hope he beats him at the USO,should they meet. :)

So,we're left with Murray. Can Murray 2.0 beat Ralph at Wimby,should they meet in the semis and also USO? That's the big question. Now I know you folks don't like Murray's excessive pushing and the fact that he's a big **** doesn't make it easier to root for him either. Believe me I understand your sentiments. :neutral:

However, I think Federer fans need to start warming to the idea that Murray might be the new #1 and will be the man to stop Ralph atleast at Wimby and the HC slams(if Djoker doesn't do the job).

IDK bout you guys but between Murray and Ralph obviously you'd have to root for Murray(though it is a bit of a Sophie's choice.)

So are you ready to embrace Murray as the Dark Knight who'll save tennis from plunging into 2010-like depression or will Murray let us all down again by not holding up his end of the bargain? :lol:
 
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Totai

Totai

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I don't care if federer loses to ralph a million more times, and I don't care if rafa breaks every single one of feds records. I like federer because his game is beautiful and the man is a class act.

I hate the way murray acts on court. The leg grabbing, the fake limping when he is losing, the constant whining and screaming. I will never cheer for murray just because he might stop nadal from catching up to fed. If nadal plays v murray, I will be cheering nadal, because nadal isn't such a little wuss on court.
 
sbengte

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The draw makers will ensure that Djoker-Murray-Delpo are all on the opposite half and only one of them gets to face Nadal, so there. You may not have Murray facing Nadal at all.
Ralph already has the remaining 3 slams for this year in his bag, so don't even bother asking these kind of questions :lol:

Interesting fact : Nadal has never won a slam where he has had to go through both Murray and Djokovic.
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo

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sbengte said:
The draw makers will ensure that Djoker-Murray-Delpo are all on the opposite half and only one of them gets to face Nadal, so there. You may not have Murray facing Nadal at all.
Ralph already has the remaining 3 slams for this year in his bag, so don't even bother asking these kind of questions :lol:

Interesting fact : Nadal has never won a slam where he has had to go through both Murray and Djokovic.
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I can't even remember the last time Nadal had either in his draw. He's always had 4 rounds of no-names, then play someone who's going to mind-beep himself in the quarters.
 
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monfed said:
Looking at Djoker's horrid form,it looks unlikely that he'll beat Ralph given the form Ralph is in,even after an 8 month layoff. :shock:

Rodge is in terminal decline and this could be his worst year on tour since his debut,even. I can't see him beating Ralph at any slam, at this point though I hope he beats him at the USO,should they meet. :)

So,we're left with Murray. Can Murray 2.0 beat Ralph at Wimby,should they meet in the semis and also USO? That's the big question. Now I know you folks don't like Murray's excessive pushing and the fact that he's a big **** doesn't make it easier to root for him either. Believe me I understand your sentiments. :neutral:

However, I think Federer fans need to start warming to the idea that Murray might be the new #1 and will be the man to stop Ralph atleast at Wimby and the HC slams(if Djoker doesn't do the job).

IDK bout you guys but between Murray and Ralph obviously you'd have to root for Murray(though it is a bit of a Sophie's choice.)

So are you ready to embrace Murray as the Dark Knight who'll save tennis from plunging into 2010-like depression or will Murray let us all down again by not holding up his end of the bargain? :lol:
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I've tried, trust me to be a Murray fan. I know Fed is on the way out, but the dude has zero personality, zero charm, zero interesting play, there's just nothing there, I wish there were.
 
Lukhas

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I don't even know if Nadal will be at the USO honestly. Doesn't seem to like tournaments after Wimbledon. Doesn't seem to like fast harcourts either. Then he has an habit of playing even when he shouldn't due to injuries, wouldn't be surprised he does it again, even if he shouldn't. Well, he shouldn't have many times already. Federer doesn't seem to bother about RG, but more about his slam count. See ya at Wimby/USO Roger. Djokovic is interested in RG much more than the other guys. Murray has stepped his game up, we'll see on clay, but even if I respect him, I can't root for him. I don't want to watch a Djokovic vs Murray anymore in a slam final, or anywhere. Seriously. With their extremely alike games and surface harmonization, no, no more. It's not even because I don't like him (he's pretty flat though), it's that I don't want to see him play against Djokovic, and since both Fed and Nadal have a consequent amount of tear and wear (we'll still see Nadal at RG at least, as usual), it likely means we'll have to get this kind of matches at least in two slams out of four: USO and AO.
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Mainad

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Totai said:
If nadal plays v murray, I will be cheering nadal, because nadal isn't such a little wuss on court.
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Lol..just count up how many fake MTOs Nadal has taken compared to Murray and then come out and tell us which of them is the bigger wuss on court!!!

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Mainad

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Mick3391 said:
I've tried, trust me to be a Murray fan. I know Fed is on the way out, but the dude has zero personality, zero charm, zero interesting play, there's just nothing there, I wish there were.
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That's a bit harsh. I think Fed can be charming when he puts his mind to it! :)

But I doubt Fed fans will ever warm to Murray so long as he he continues to hold a winning H2H against him which he has done for almost the entire time they have played each other!
 
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NatF

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I kind of like Murray and Nadal, it's just the Nadal fans that put me off. Plus his stupid 2 year ranking idea. Murray bores me sometimes, but other times he can put on great matches. At Wimbledon for example.
 
kragster

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OP your post is based on the presumption that all Fed fans are Rafa haters and their sole motivation in life is to see Rafa lose.

I'm pretty sure some of your fellow Fed fans will disagree with you.
 
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Mainad said:
That's a bit harsh. I think Fed can be charming when he puts his mind to it! :)
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No offense to Murray, heh I think all the top guys are awesome, but from a fan standpoint, if Murray is on, I'm just not interested.

I do like Nadal, I can watch him, think he's exciting and really talented, he's at least got a personality.

Saw an interview with Murray, kind of felt sorry for him, he said something like "People think I have no emotion because my voice is so dry, I've tried but that's just how I am, but I do have emotion".

At least Nadal HAS style, his deal is "I'm a animal", that's cool, can roll with that.

I just don't like any of the top players except Fed or Nadal. I like guys like Haas, but he's not going to be doing anything. Nadal can win any of the GS's, knock out Djokovich, so if he can stay well I'm behind him, if not and it's jut Djoke and Murray, I'm just not watching tennis, I mean track meet:)
 
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Lukhas said:
I don't even know if Nadal will be at the USO honestly. Doesn't seem to like tournaments after Wimbledon. Doesn't seem to like fast harcourts either. Then he has an habit of playing even when he shouldn't due to injuries, wouldn't be surprised he does it again, even if he shouldn't. Well, he shouldn't have many times already. Federer doesn't seem to bother about RG, but more about his slam count. See ya at Wimby/USO Roger. Djokovic is interested in RG much more than the other guys. Murray has stepped his game up, we'll see on clay, but even if I respect him, I can't root for him. I don't want to watch a Djokovic vs Murray anymore in a slam final, or anywhere. Seriously. With their extremely alike games and surface harmonization, no, no more. It's not even because I don't like him (he's pretty flat though), it's that I don't want to see him play against Djokovic, and since both Fed and Nadal have a consequent amount of tear and wear (we'll still see Nadal at RG at least, as usual), it likely means we'll have to get this kind of matches at least in two slams out of four: USO and AO.
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That's hilarious, just noticed the imposed "Pong" on the Wimby field, that's how it seems to me.

Some criticize me and others for not liking pure baseline game, but heh guys that's how we feel. I don't criticize those that love that, to each their own!
 
Lukhas

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Mick3391 said:
Some criticize me and others for not liking pure baseline game, but heh guys that's how we feel. I don't criticize those that love that, to each their own!
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That's not even that I dislike "pure" baseline game, although the tendency to blow putaway volleys makes me cringe. A lot. It's that both guys are so similar that it isn't very entertaining to watch anymore. Even if I like Nadal, I don't want 6 hours finals anymore either. And this, even if he's more aggressive as of late. I know people won't agree, I respect that, but that's how I feel.
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo

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There's nothing wrong with "pure" baseline game. Andre Agassi was a joy to watch, and he was as pure as anyone at the baseline.

There's a difference between an attacking baseline game, and today's topspin-mow-you-to-sleep baseline game.
 
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Federer fans are already pretty thankful Djokavic has done what he has done.

Without the emergence of the Djoker, I'd say Nadal would be on 13 slams already, possibly 14, and we'd have a serious problem of Nadal catching Fed.

As a Federer fan, I want Murray to emerge, i dont' like him, i won't watch him, but I think he can take nadal out on hard court or grass, and we need those types of wins.


So I'm warm to him, but only as a possible nadal stopper. if he can steal a couple majors from Djoker like in the USO, that'd be great too.

For the Fed Legacy, we really need Nadal < 15 Majors, Djoker < 12, We need Murray to somehow pick up about 5 majors to keep those numbers in check.
 
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monfed

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zam88 said:
Federer fans are already pretty thankful Djokavic has done what he has done.

Without the emergence of the Djoker, I'd say Nadal would be on 13 slams already, possibly 14, and we'd have a serious problem of Nadal catching Fed.

As a Federer fan, I want Murray to emerge, i dont' like him, i won't watch him, but I think he can take nadal out on hard court or grass, and we need those types of wins.


So I'm warm to him, but only as a possible nadal stopper. if he can steal a couple majors from Djoker like in the USO, that'd be great too.

For the Fed Legacy, we really need Nadal < 15 Majors, Djoker < 12, We need Murray to somehow pick up about 5 majors to keep those numbers in check.
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Wow bang on!! :)
 
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Day Tripper

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I am not worried about Nadal approaching Federer records. I was a big fan of Nadals but stopped supporting him after Wimbledon 2010. That was the last straw for me - there is just too much compelling evidence that he has/is doping. Regardless of whether he ends up getting exposed or not his record will always have a big asterisk next to it like Barry Bonds, Flo Jo etc.
 
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for saying "bang on!" to someone who posts this kind of filth:

As a Federer fan, I want Murray to emerge, i dont' like him, i won't watch him, but I think he can take nadal out on hard court or grass, and we need those types of wins.


So I'm warm to him, but only as a possible nadal stopper. if he can steal a couple majors from Djoker like in the USO, that'd be great too.

For the Fed Legacy, we really need Nadal < 15 Majors, Djoker < 12, We need Murray to somehow pick up about 5 majors to keep those numbers in check.
 
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zam88

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Day Tripper said:
I am not worried about Nadal approaching Federer records. I was a big fan of Nadals but stopped supporting him after Wimbledon 2011. That was the last straw for me - there is just too much compelling evidence that he has/is doping. Regardless of whether he ends up getting exposed or not his record will always have a big asterisk next to it like Barry Bonds, Flo Jo etc.
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Wimbledon '11, the year he lost to Djoker rather convincingly, was the last straw and evidence he was doping?

Look, i'm a nadal hater and think he probably dopes as well... but my evidence for that would not have come from that tourney.

I'm just looking for your reasoning.
 
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zam88

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fed_da_man said:
for saying "bang on!" to someone who posts this kind of filth:

As a Federer fan, I want Murray to emerge, i dont' like him, i won't watch him, but I think he can take nadal out on hard court or grass, and we need those types of wins.


So I'm warm to him, but only as a possible nadal stopper. if he can steal a couple majors from Djoker like in the USO, that'd be great too.

For the Fed Legacy, we really need Nadal < 15 Majors, Djoker < 12, We need Murray to somehow pick up about 5 majors to keep those numbers in check.
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How is that "filth"

I didn't make any porn references, doping references, or anything.

Just said as a federer fan that we need less majors from nadal and djoker to maximize the goat claim... seems pretty reasonable.

It'd be nice if DelPo could pick up a few majors as well to help justify that 2009 USO final that i wish i could stop thinking about.
 
The-Champ

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Every single Federer fan out there is already psychologically damaged because of Nadal. Monfed is begging them to be suicidal.
 
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spinovic

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Murray will beat Rafa on any surface but clay in 2013. Heck...might even do it there after Lendl's master class during February.:twisted:
 
Clarky21

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The-Champ said:
Every single Federer fan out there is already psychologically damaged because of Nadal. Monfed is begging them to be suicidal.
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Monfed is bouncing his insecurity and hatred for Nadal off on anyone who it will stick to. He's one of the most mental Fedt*rds on this forum. Nadal haunts his dreams even. He's obsessed with him.
 
NatF

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Clarky21 said:
Monfed is bouncing his insecurity and hatred for Nadal off on anyone who it will stick to. He's one of the most mental Fedt*rds on this forum. Nadal haunts his dreams even. He's obsessed with him.
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Is your hatred of Djokovic any different?
 
Clarky21

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NatF said:
Is your hatred of Djokovic any different?
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Do I start threads like this? Just about every single thing Monfed posts is related to Nadal somehow. Sorry, but he is far more obsessed with Nadal than I have been, or will ever be of Cvac.
 
NatF

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Clarky21 said:
Do I start threads like this? Just about every single thing Monfed posts is related to Nadal somehow. Sorry, but he is far more obsessed with Nadal than I have been, or will ever be of Cvac.
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Ok, I'll give you that you never start threads about Djokovic.

Hopefully both your predictions will be wrong and we'll have a balanced year...
 
フェデラー

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I really liked Murray after Wimby 2012 and the olympics, but just as soon as I start liking him something like Miami 2013 happens and I just don't know what to think anymore. it's like he regresses sometimes and just falls back on the grinding, it's kind of sad because he is capable of so much more than that.
 
Towser83

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Ooh it's all kicking off on here, never seen any Murray/Nadal fan fighting haha :twisted:

On a serious note. Nah.

I love watching Federer play, he's been my all time favourite player. I didn't start liking him on the proviso that he wins the most slams. If Nadal or someone else does then that's life. I still will prefer Federer as a player and remember why.

I'm not going to support a player just because he can protect Federer's legacy. I usually cheer for Nadal whenever he plays Murray, but these days I don't mind Murray winning some titles against players who I don't actively support. But on the other hand it kind of annoys me when he beats an outsider for a title. Nadal and Murray are the only non outsiders who I don't actively support. So I can see myself not minding who wins between them, maybe one day I will even cheer for Murray, but I can make no promises ;)
 
Fiji

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Nadal will only win RG, so no worries.

Murray will win Wimbledon.

Federer will stun everybody and win his last USO.
 
MichaelNadal

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monfed said:
Looking at Djoker's horrid form,it looks unlikely that he'll beat Ralph given the form Ralph is in,even after an 8 month layoff. :shock:

Rodge is in terminal decline and this could be his worst year on tour since his debut,even. I can't see him beating Ralph at any slam, at this point though I hope he beats him at the USO,should they meet. :)

So,we're left with Murray. Can Murray 2.0 beat Ralph at Wimby,should they meet in the semis and also USO? That's the big question. Now I know you folks don't like Murray's excessive pushing and the fact that he's a big **** doesn't make it easier to root for him either. Believe me I understand your sentiments. :neutral:

However, I think Federer fans need to start warming to the idea that Murray might be the new #1 and will be the man to stop Ralph atleast at Wimby and the HC slams(if Djoker doesn't do the job).

IDK bout you guys but between Murray and Ralph obviously you'd have to root for Murray(though it is a bit of a Sophie's choice.)

So are you ready to embrace Murray as the Dark Knight who'll save tennis from plunging into 2010-like depression or will Murray let us all down again by not holding up his end of the bargain? :lol:
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And you have the nerve to call a whole fanbase "Nards" when this post is so full of butthurt it could flow like a waterfall.
 
Devilito

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Once Fed retires I hope they start showing the Champion’s Tour on TV more often because i’d rather watch that then a Muzza / Djesus / ****** slam final.
 
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monfed

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Clarky21 said:
Monfed is bouncing his insecurity and hatred for Nadal off on anyone who it will stick to. He's one of the most mental Fedt*rds on this forum. Nadal haunts his dreams even. He's obsessed with him.
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Relax, Ralph will sweep the clay,however you need to warm to the possibility that he might drop a set along the way(most probably in Madrid). I hope that doesn't cause you too much panic. :lol:
 
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monfed

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The-Champ said:
Every single Federer fan out there is already psychologically damaged because of Nadal. Monfed is begging them to be suicidal.
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Oh I assure you that rooting for Murray against Ralph isn't that hard.
It's just the anxiety that comes along with it when one knows deep down that at some point in the match,Murray will fold. *sigh*
 
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monfed

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sbengte said:
The draw makers will ensure that Djoker-Murray-Delpo are all on the opposite half and only one of them gets to face Nadal, so there. You may not have Murray facing Nadal at all.
Ralph already has the remaining 3 slams for this year in his bag, so don't even bother asking these kind of questions :lol:

Interesting fact : Nadal has never won a slam where he has had to go through both Murray and Djokovic.
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Oh ofcourse, Ralph will win the remaining 3 slams this year, he seems destined for it. Pardon me for indulging a wee bit, it's nice to think that there could be a dark knight somewhere that might come out of nowhere and save tennis and Murray could be that guy(like the Djoker in 2011.) :)
 
beast of mallorca

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monfed said:
Oh ofcourse, Ralph will win the remaining 3 slams this year, he seems destined for it. Pardon me for indulging a wee bit, it's nice to think that there could be a dark knight somewhere that might come out of nowhere and save tennis and Murray could be that guy(like the Djoker in 2011.) :)
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So, you lost your confidence on Djokovic........that easy ?
You're such a bandwagonner Monfed. Djokovic is destroying Isner as I make this post.
 
The-Champ

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I wouldn't mind Murray winning wimbledon. He was unfortunate to meet the grass co-GOAT on his first wimbledon final. I hope he is kind enough to let Rafa win RG though.
 
Clarky21

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monfed said:
Relax, Ralph will sweep the clay,however you need to warm to the possibility that he might drop a set along the way(most probably in Madrid). I hope that doesn't cause you too much panic. :lol:
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Jinx away, Monfed, but Nadal doesn't need your help to lose during the clay season.
 
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