Well, I'm noticing that many times, the racquets (comparing with equal models) that I string has different vibrations, one more and others less (When you hit the sweetspot with your palm of the hand). Is there any method or any trick to avoid the vibration? Or I can be doing something wrong while I'm stringing, don't know
Less vibration on the strings, any trick?
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All strings are different. All racquets are different. ( unless noted ) No trick to avoid vibration. No matter what, there will always be a hint of vibration. Your stringing just fine.
MarrratSafin
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Oh yes there is a trick, tie-off end touching the frame vs not touching the frame results in different vibration sounds.
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How does it not touch the frame? The knot is always flush against the grommet. How do you do this "trick"?
MarrratSafin
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Not the grommets, I meant as long as the string end does not make contact with the frame, just cut it off neatly..
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Oh okay. 10c
Fintft
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Snake dampeners if you must use any. Personally I prefer the newer shock absorbing materials in the frame and handle (such as basalt). And natural gut.
Have you tried Gamma Shockbuster? The Gamma is a bit longer than the Wilson and can also stretch longer to dampen more mains.
Bear in mind it must be stretched very gradually over the course of several hitting sessions, or else it can pop at the hook ends and die a painful death (with gel oozing out ....)
Lukhas
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http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=398161
Read the whole thread.
Read the whole thread.
Bobby Jr
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I'm tempted to call rubbish on this claim. I can't see how it would make any difference.
One thing that the OP should consider is that whacking the string bed with your palm is a very unscientific method of testing the vibration variation. Even slight differences in placement or speed of the hit could make big differences to the vibration you feel.
mikeler
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I have not tried it. The Shock Shield makes things so muted, I don't think I'd want any less feeling out of the strings.
Not sure what you mean. My son has used the Gammas for years. The hooks are on two mains that have eight mains between them, so the dampening is for eight mains. With a hybrid string job, the hooks cannot be any further apart because there are knots on the next mains in either direction. The ten-main spacing does not really stretch the Shockbusters and we have never had one split open. I guess if we did not have a hybrid job we might have space for a longer stretch, or if we (illegally) put them above the first cross string.
My point is that Gamma Shockbusters are a bit longer and more elastic than Wilson Shock Shields. That's all.
I wasn't paying particular attention to the specific # of mains that Mikeler mentioned. My current racquet has the same configuration as yours son's. My Shockbuster dampens 8 mains; 10 mains if hooks are included.
However, there are other racquets with different string patterns. With some, you can have the 2-piece stringing with the mains having tie-offs on the top of the racquet face. Some obviously have more or less mains than the typical 16. The number of crosses and how low the last cross is drilled into the racquet also makes a difference.
On one of my backup frames, my Gamma stretches over 12 mains, dampening 10.
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mikeler
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My point was that if anyone is installing the Gamma Shockbuster below the bottom cross string, and they are having a problem with breaking it by hitting it with a ball, then they have some technique issues that will not be solved by shock absorbers.
I'm pretty good at hitting all parts of the frame and strings. I don't think it has taken a direct hit on the Shock Shield yet but I'll report back if I do.
mikeler
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Lukhas
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coolblue123
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Wormies are cool in dampening the sound. But they leak sometimes.
Rubber Bands? Will not lose on court, won't impact weight (since they are so light) and cheap to replace?
Rubber Bands? Will not lose on court, won't impact weight (since they are so light) and cheap to replace?
Maybe you might want to call Gamma and complain. Melting is inexcusable.
I didn't like the II because they hardly stretched.
mikeler
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Interesting. The shock shield will stretch some but getting it to hook onto string #10 can take a few attempts.
That might be overstretching it just a bit.
I don't remember if Shock Shield package has anything to say about it, but Gamma specifically tells you not to overstretch it.
What can happen when the dampener is overstretched is that sometimes the hooks can come unglued down the road.
You can always use a "hard-weave" on the dampener to cover a smaller number of mains initially and then when it stretches some on its own, then put it back the other way to cover more of the mains.
Fintft
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Your unglued might look like our melting...
mikeler
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No warning on the label from what I remember. I initially stretched it over the middle 8 mains and then looked at the package which showed it covering 10 strings. So then I tried it and you have to stretch it with each weave, otherwise you won't make it across 10 mains. It seems structurally sound but I tend to hit high on the stringbed, so it has not taken a direct hit yet.
Fintft
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Link doesn't work, sorry.
o0lunatik
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I've experienced the issue where the string beds sounding different in same racquet strung and at same tension. I have always used small rubberbands as dampeners and double it up or three (stacked right below one another) to achieve the same, dampened feel. It helps mentally to know that both racquets are as of the same feel/sound.
Rubberbands are real cheap to replaced, you buy a bag of 500 size 18 rubberbands for approx 3 bux, change out every other stringing jobs, and it'll last you 5+ years!
Lukhas
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Then...
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=398161
I put a search link, so it worked, but no longer does. You'll have to read the thread and do the search by yourself it seems.
mikeler
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Thank you for all the answers, the point wasn't the dampeners, but the way of stringing. Conclusion: there is anyway to avoid the vibration, right?
I'm not sure what you do differently stringing to make the strings vibrate less.
Yesterday I was in my local store and compared the Gamma shock buster to the Wilson Shock Shield. My guess is Wilson just coped the Gamma design and raised the price a dollar.
Fintft
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Thanks, very informal!
Fintft
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Thank you for all the answers, the point wasn't the dampeners, but the way of stringing. Conclusion: there is anyway to avoid the vibration, right?
Dunno, natural gut, pre-stretched doesn't seem to vibrate much...
