Will Wilson
Semi-Pro
I'm looking for a reel of cheap syn gut that is pretty lively and fairly soft. I tried Forten sweet and liked it. Any others I should try?
Loving the syn. guts myself and I've recently sampled some Forten Sweet 16, too. Ultra plush stuff, but not too mushy compared with other soft setups I've tried and I also like the durability of the 16 over the 17 gauge option. I'm ordering more for myself this week.
Also had pretty good luck with Tecnifibre's 16 ga. syn. gut, although I'd say that it's a little bit more crisp than the Forten. Prince's Syn. Gut with Duraflex runs too firm and "clunky" for me, but I've always liked their original syn. gut. I use Gosen OG Sheep Micro for some basic setups, but definitely prefer the Forten and Tecnifibre.
What have your experiences been with Wilson Extreme sun gut? How does it compare with Forten sweet?
I used that stuff for a few years back when I had a pretty great deal on anything Wilson. It's not my favorite synth gut but it's not bad either.
Really depends on your preferences. I grew up playing with PSG and later PSGD so that crispy feel is what I was used to and is my standard for synth gut comparisons. I think Forten Sweet is fine as a soft cross in a hybrid, but in a full bed I think it just feels mushy and breaks too quickly. If PSGD and FS represent the two ends of a scale I'd put Wilson Synth Gut Extreme about 7/10 or 8/10 of the way towards the PSGD side.
Prince Original Synthetic Gut is softer than Gosen as well.
I used that stuff for a few years back when I had a pretty great deal on anything Wilson. It's not my favorite synth gut but it's not bad either.
Really depends on your preferences. I grew up playing with PSG and later PSGD so that crispy feel is what I was used to and is my standard for synth gut comparisons. I think Forten Sweet is fine as a soft cross in a hybrid, but in a full bed I think it just feels mushy and breaks too quickly. If PSGD and FS represent the two ends of a scale I'd put Wilson Synth Gut Extreme about 7/10 or 8/10 of the way towards the PSGD side.
Head PPS (RSI stiffness 190 for 17g) and Forten Sweet (RSI stiffness 194 for 17g) are cheap, soft, and powerful, while Gosen OGSM (RSI stiffness 199 for 17g) feel a little stiff and crispy. I use PPS and Sweet for all crosses for stiff (or low-powered) multi mains, and OGSM for soft and high-powered multi mains.
As the numbers show, synguts are all the same in terms of power, maybe differing by 1% within the same gauge. There is a reason for this: syngut is simply a monofilament of heat-treated nylon with some kind of coating applied. They are all the same! Unlike polyester, which can be changed considerably by adding various other chemicals to the mix (making a copolymer, or copoly), nylon is nylon.
However, going up or down in gauge will change the "power", or ball speed, slightly. I like Gosen OGSM 18 personally. As powerful as a multi, in my opinion, and with better (crisper) feel to boot.
The same or similar? Anyway, RSI data shows Forten sweet 17 is 1.27mm, Gosen Micro 17 is 1.24mm, Head PPS is 1.22, and Prince SG 17 is 1.26mm in thickenss. if going up or down in gauge will change feel and power, they may change the power and feel (actually coating also contributes to the feel).
alpha gut 2000, toalson leona
Those are both nylon multi-filaments, which are more expensive and slightly more powerful than synthetic guts. Synthetic guts are nylon monofilaments.