we said federer needs to switch and he listened to the 2.0 TW hacks

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 17, 2013

it is not a questions of whether he will win more slams or not, it is a question if he should switch or not, the purist said he does not NEEEEED to switch he has been winning many slams and named all the pros that won slams with 85/90, BUT the game has changed and Federer is getting older and he NEEEDS to hang with the big boys that are top 4 ( he is at 5) He NEEEDS more power, he NEEEEDS more forgiveness especially his OHBH, anyway I was the first one here on TW that said federer NEEDS to switch to a bigger frame, and yes the 2.0 TW hacks were right all along

flame away

dgoran · Jul 17, 2013

I...was the first one that said that...
Prove me wrong

Blitzball · Jul 17, 2013

Do you guys want a pat on the back now?

Tomxc · Jul 17, 2013

Dang you were the 18th account created on this site, ancient! Nowadays, account ID#'s are up to over half a million.

70後 · Jul 17, 2013

"BUT the game has changed and Federer is getting older and he NEEEDS to hang with the big boys that are top 4"

So the older he gets, the bigger the frame he will switch to?

BreakPoint · Jul 17, 2013

Tomxc said:
Dang you were the 18th account created on this site, ancient! Nowadays, account ID#'s are up to over half a million.

How did you know that?

Bartelby · Jul 17, 2013

Fed said he had considered change on numerous previous occasions.

hrstrat57 · Jul 17, 2013

This thread has 1000+ post potential. With that in mind I am here to post in this very important thread.

Bartelby · Jul 17, 2013

The reality is that he shanked a few backhands with the new racquet so that might be slow movement or simply that he stands close to the baseline to receive or both.

Bobby Jr · Jul 17, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
He NEEEDS more power, he NEEEEDS more forgiveness especially his OHBH

Care to explain how forgiveness relates to his 1hbh?

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 17, 2013

dgoran said:
I...was the first one that said that...
Prove me wrong

you came on this site august 4th 2004, the original posters on this forum have Feb 2004,the date the forum switched, I have been posting on this forum since 1999

anyway, who care who was the first, we all knew he needed to change, heck I am a fed fan to the bones, and the last lose was just too ugly and unbearable to watch, heck anything a big bubbaa,,,,, whatever

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 17, 2013

Bobby Jr said:
Care to explain how forgiveness relates to his 1hbh?

there is a youtube video where he totally misses the OHBH, anyone care to dig it up, gasquet can hit a OHBH with a 100 why can;t federer

look they are picking on his BH he needs something bigger where he can take a bigger cut ala gasquet and not frame the ball

Chico · Jul 17, 2013

I disagree. He should stick with his six.one 90. It suits him way better. He just lost a set to one Daniel Brands??? I am not sure why are you gloating?

The Meat · Jul 17, 2013

Chico said:
I disagree. He should stick with his six.one 90. It suits him way better. He just lost a set to one Daniel Brands??? I am not sure why are you gloating?

Are you saying he shouldn't have lost a set to Daniel Brands? Don't forget he took a set off of Nadal at this years RG.

If you overlook the first set and see it as a practice set to get in the groove of the racquet, the scoreline would be 6-3, 6-2 which isn't too shabby.

Bobby Jr · Jul 17, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
there is a youtube video where he totally misses the OHBH, anyone care to dig it up, gasquet can hit a OHBH with a 100 why can;t federer look they are picking on his BH he needs something bigger where he can take a bigger cut ala gasquet and not frame the ball

A bigger cut with a bigger frame means less control unless other factors are adjusted.

When you say he totally misses it do you mean as in missed the ball completely or misshits it? Missing the ball completely cannot be fixed by adding 1cm extra around the hoop.

Sentinel · Jul 17, 2013

we said federer needs to switch and he listened to the 2.0 TW hacks

Nonsense. We've been saying Fred needs to go to a 85" racket, and that Nadal also needs to downsize if he wishes to go deeper in Wimbledon.

This switch is suresh's conspiracy to hasten Fred's decline.

DownTheLineWith90 · Jul 17, 2013

Now who wants a cookie?

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 17, 2013

Bobby Jr said:
A bigger cut with a bigger frame means less control unless other factors are adjusted.

When you say he totally misses it do you mean as in missed the ball completely or misshits it? Missing the ball completely cannot be fixed by adding 1cm extra around the hoop.

bobby your signature says it all, you are still living in lala land with the 85, hey I dont blame you I was living in la la land with my PT630, until I wised up and now play the areo pro lite 2013,

if it helps him .00001% not to mis hit once that will be enough, like i said look up the youtube videos, some are ugly.

hey Federer said it himself he wants something bigger, for what

to better hit flies with

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=5388383&postcount=12

whos side are you on?

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 17, 2013

RIP PS 85, 88 and now 90

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=450929

love the PS 95 still has a chance in todays game, go delgopolov, you da man

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 17, 2013

2008, he listened to me somewhat,

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2568535&postcount=9

he finally went with a PT630 wannabe clone, with open pattern, ampifeel basalt BLX 98, his set up on the PT630 is junk, I tried it, hence the open pattern, he is going to get some serious kicks and spins and pop on serves, and hopefully one less mis hit at a strategic moment is enough

Richie Rich · Jul 18, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
you came on this site august 4th 2004, the original posters on this forum have Feb 2004,the date the forum switched, I have been posting on this forum since 1999 anyway, who care who was the first, we all knew he needed to change, heck I am a fed fan to the bones, and the last lose was just too ugly and unbearable to watch, heck anything a big bubbaa,,,,, whatever

funny, i was on old boards too. your join date on these boards is a few days earlier than mine. maybe i slacked and didn't log in for a while.....

Richie Rich · Jul 18, 2013

and in regards to fed switching to a bigger racquet - it's only a couple matches and he could switch back at any point. but over the years most players that used a mid have switched to a MP for one reason or another. a few have flip flopped back to mids again but most have kept the MP.

does anyone know how many guys still use the original prestige mid? that seems to be the only real mid left that has a few players still using it.

nikdom · Jul 18, 2013

Richie Rich said:
and in regards to fed switching to a bigger racquet - it's only a couple matches and he could switch back at any point. but over the years most players that used a mid have switched to a MP for one reason or another. a few have flip flopped back to mids again but most have kept the MP.

does anyone know how many guys still use the original prestige mid? that seems to be the only real mid left that has a few players still using it.

I'm not in Head much...what's the difference between the Prestige and the Radical?

dgoran · Jul 19, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
you came on this site august 4th 2004, the original posters on this forum have Feb 2004,the date the forum switched, I have been posting on this forum since 1999 anyway, who care who was the first, we all knew he needed to change, heck I am a fed fan to the bones, and the last lose was just too ugly and unbearable to watch, heck anything a big bubbaa,,,,, whatever

Lol I was just being sarcastic but you joined 2004 as well... I was around since 2002

MichaelChang · Jul 19, 2013

nikdom said:
I'm not in Head much...what's the difference between the Prestige and the Radical?

Prestige has the mid 600 line from day 1 to now, earlier also had 660 size and later discontinued, now it has 630 size?

Radical is always 630 or 690 size.

DaveInBradenton · Jul 19, 2013

It's a good thing Federer has this Forum to seek our advice.

How about a photoshop of RF playing with a 144 sq incher?

Dave

Chico · Jul 19, 2013

nikdom said:
I'm not in Head much...what's the difference between the Prestige and the Radical?

Radical is orange while Prestige is dark red

Joking.

Stock Radical MP is 98sq in, around 320g strung and 3pt HL.

Stock Prestige Mid is 93sq in (close to 90, since head measurements are different and 93 Head < 93 Wilson or Babolat), around 345g and 7 pt HL.

PrinceMoron · Jul 19, 2013

dgoran said:
I...was the first one that said that...
Prove me wrong

I was the first one to say Federer's new racquet is 0.25 longer.

You read it here first at 05.01.

Bobby Jr · Jul 19, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
bobby your signature says it all, you are still living in lala land with the 85, hey I dont blame you I was living in la la land with my PT630, until I wised up and now play the areo pro lite 2013,

That comment says you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Thanks for confirming. Try addressing the salient point I made next time.

I don't seek more performance in the way Federer seems to be - I am way past that point. I'm just happy to have a frame I know inside-out and suits my needs.

Pro_Tour_630 said:
if it helps him .00001% not to mis hit once that will be enough, ...

It will not.

Pro_Tour_630 said:
hey Federer said it himself he wants something bigger, for what to better hit flies with

I'm not defending his choice - I'm questioning your inability to make a coherent argument on the point I replied to.

Chico · Jul 20, 2013

Federer just lost to #114 ranked player using his new 98 sq in racquet. That would never happen with the six.one 90.

90erer >>>>>> 98erer.

The 2.0 TW hacks were proven wrong.

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 20, 2013

dgoran said:
Lol I was just being sarcastic but you joined 2004 as well... I was around since 2002

2002, glad you proved me right

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 20, 2013

Bobby Jr said:
T
I'm not defending his choice - I'm questioning your inability to make a coherent argument on the point I replied to.

I dont have too, why did he change Bob since you are so smart, let us 2.0 TW hack know.

it seems no one joined in on your anniversary, the crickets were chirping, get over it the PS85 is dead, not even federer can play with 90 let a lone 85, LOL

Bobby Jr said:
The Wilson Prostaff 85, first sold in 1983 and still going strong 30 year later.

Used to win at least 29* major singles titles and a few doubles also.

*Rough calcs: Sampras 14, Edberg 6, Pierce 1, Courier 4, Evert 4 (of her 18 majors) = 29. Plus Edberg won 3 doubles majors with it too.

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 20, 2013

Chico said:
Federer just lost to #114 ranked player using his new 98 sq in racquet. That would never happen with the six.one 90.

90erer >>>>>> 98erer.

The 2.0 TW hacks were proven wrong.

even if he won few slam the TW wanna purists will come out and say,,,,,,, stop,,,,,, he needs to win 12 slams with the new frame to be proven correct

get over it, even if he does not win a match I want the matches against the big boys to be a little respectable, or he should quit now,

BreakPoint · Jul 20, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
it seems no one joined in on your anniversary, the crickets were chirping, get over it the PS85 is dead, not even federer can play with 90 let a lone 85, LOL

Apparently, Federer can't play with a 98 either. :shock:

Vcore89 · Jul 20, 2013

...he'll dump the 98 immed.

...in perspective, Agassi should've switch from his 107 to a 125 or 138 butterfly catcher in the winter of his career?

Vcore89 · Jul 20, 2013

BreakPoint said:
Apparently, Federer can't play with a 98 either. :shock:

I think, him reverting back to 85 would be better than upping it to 98.

BreakPoint · Jul 21, 2013

Vcore89 said:
I think, him reverting back to 85 would be better than upping it to 98.

Agreed!

ilovetennis212 · Jul 21, 2013

BreakPoint said:
Agreed!

Agreed if he can move like he was in 2006..

BreakPoint · Jul 21, 2013

ilovetennis212 said:
Agreed if he can move like he was in 2006..

Sampras won the US Open in 2002 at age 31 with an 85, why can't Federer?

As I got older and less mobile, I kept moving to smaller head sizes and they work better for me since I can't move as fast. Bigger racquets make you grind out points while smaller racquets allow you to hit winners and end points more quickly. 14 years ago, I used a 98. 10 years ago, I used a 95. 7 years ago, I used a 90. Now I use an 85.

Sentinel · Jul 21, 2013

BreakPoint said:
Sampras won the US Open in 2002 at age 31 with an 85, why can't Federer?

As I got older and less mobile, I kept moving to smaller head sizes and they work better for me since I can't move as fast. Bigger racquets make you grind out points while smaller racquets allow you to hit winners and end points more quickly. 14 years ago, I used a 98. 10 years ago, I used a 95. 7 years ago, I used a 90. Now I use an 85.

tell me when you are old enough to use my T2000's. 72" someone was saying.

BreakPoint · Jul 21, 2013

Sentinel said:
tell me when you are old enough to use my T2000's. 72" someone was saying.

When I get really old, I expect I'll have to go back to my 65 sq. in. wood racquets. :wink:

Vcore89 · Jul 21, 2013

BreakPoint said:
When I get really old, I expect I'll have to go back to my 65 sq. in. wood racquets. :wink:

Hope it's not all warped or annihilated with colonies (a coat or two of varnish/laminate might prolong it, ummm...)...you know.

They're not Borg's Donnays?

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 21, 2013

it looks like the 85/90 purists are out in full force, give it up the 85/90 is useless on the ATP tour today, there might be one spot for the head 90 but that is about it,

Pro_Tour_630 · Jul 21, 2013

BreakPoint said:
Apparently, Federer can't play with a 98 either. :shock:

BP read below, you are guilty of the first sentence, you expect him to win 12 more slams for the switch to be worthy

Pro_Tour_630 said:
even if he won few slam the TW wanna purists will come out and say,,,,,,, stop,,,,,, he needs to win 12 slams with the new frame to be proven correct

get over it, even if he does not win a match I want the matches against the big boys to be a little respectable, or he should quit now,

Vcore89 · Jul 21, 2013

A 17 time grand slam champion is the lone top 5 player in the world still using the 90 (axed the 908))...how bad can it be?

Praetorian · Jul 21, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
it looks like the 85/90 purists are out in full force, give it up the 85/90 is useless on the ATP tour today, there might be one spot for the head 90 but that is about it,

Kinda sorta agree. For today's modern pusher, or ultra topspin baseline bashing game game, the strength of precision and control in a 90 sq in. head size rackets is not a proper fit. You have to be rally special with a really special game to excel with that racket, and I think everyone agrees Fed is special.

PrinceMoron · Jul 21, 2013

The reason Federer never tried out a larger frame before was he always made the latter stages of the slams. Now he has had ten days he was not expecting, to play test in a 500.

Pro_Tour_630 · Dec 31, 2013

anyone eating crow feathers

vsbabolat · Dec 31, 2013

Pro_Tour_630 said:
anyone eating crow feathers

I wish we could get our hands on Fed's new stick.

RFRF · Dec 31, 2013

BreakPoint said:
Sampras won the US Open in 2002 at age 31 with an 85, why can't Federer?

As I got older and less mobile, I kept moving to smaller head sizes and they work better for me since I can't move as fast. Bigger racquets make you grind out points while smaller racquets allow you to hit winners and end points more quickly. 14 years ago, I used a 98. 10 years ago, I used a 95. 7 years ago, I used a 90. Now I use an 85.

Yes yes yes yes!!!!!

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