Nadal-Ferrer - World Tour Finals - RR - 2013

NN-2 · Nov 5, 2013

Backspin1183 said:
Yes it is , like Federer's H2H with Stakhiovsky on grass is a stain on his legacy.

Who even brought up Federer? A very odd comment to make, and not analogous for many reasons (only 1 match on grass, Federer was in his 30s whereas Ferrer just beat Nadal while he's 31 and Nadal 27, etc.).

If you want to argue a stain on Federer's legacy just go directly to Nadal, which I would agree with.

Nevertheless, if Nadal manages to beat Ferrer today, which I think he will, he will do some damage control here since this is one of the most important tournaments after the Slams. Keep in mind that Ferrer has now beaten Nadal on hard court at both of his peaks on hc, and is 2-0 on hard court slams against Nadal.

TheF1Bob · Nov 5, 2013

Typical of the BBC to show this match instead of the match involving lord egg and a elderly old fart.

namelessone · Nov 5, 2013

NN-2 said:
Who even brought up Federer? A very odd comment to make, and not analogous for many reasons (only 1 match on grass, Federer was in his 30s whereas Ferrer just beat Nadal while he's 31 and Nadal 27, etc.).

If you want to argue a stain on Federer's legacy just go directly to Nadal, which I would agree with.

Nevertheless, if Nadal manages to beat Ferrer today, which I think he will, he will do some damage control here since this is one of the most important tournaments after the Slams. Keep in mind that Ferrer has now beaten Nadal on hard court at both of his peaks on hc, and is 2-0 on hard court slams against Nadal.

You do realize that some of Nadal's H2H will turn bad once he gets older, right? Do you think he can retire with a positive h2h against everyone in the top 30?

NN-2 · Nov 5, 2013

namelessone said:
You do realize that some of Nadal's H2H will turn bad once he gets older, right? Do you think he can retire with a positive h2h against everyone in the top 30?

You do realize that Ferrer is older than Nadal, right?

viduka0101 · Nov 5, 2013

hopefully Nadal
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Crayola Oblongata · Nov 5, 2013

Was wondering if they changed the music this year....don't like this song.

raphMODE · Nov 5, 2013

So it's official... No WTF "brave blue /volt" outfit for Nadal !!!
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MichaelNadal · Nov 5, 2013

#TeamRafa shall we begin?

Michael Essien · Nov 5, 2013

Man Ferrer wears some hideous stuff. Why is it always like fluorescent yellow and green on his gear.

Crayola Oblongata · Nov 5, 2013

They really couldn't use a better pictue of Nadal for this? It looks like he's running to use a cheesy pick up line.

Team10 · Nov 5, 2013

Michael Essien said:
Man Ferrer wears some hideous stuff. Why is it always like fluorescent yellow and green on his gear.

Not him, it's Lotto. Look at all of their sponsored players- Almagro, Anderson. They are always in bright stuff.

MichaelNadal · Nov 5, 2013

Rafa looks much more relaxed than last week. let's see if it translates.

Terenigma · Nov 5, 2013

Let the grunting begin!

The_Order · Nov 5, 2013

Just what Nadal needed. A good start.

Michael Essien · Nov 5, 2013

Team10 said:
Not him, it's Lotto. Look at all of their sponsored players- Almagro, Anderson. They are always in bright stuff.

Well yeah, I mean I worded it poorly making it sound like it was all Ferrer but yeah, I knew it was down to Lotto.

Backspin1183 · Nov 5, 2013

BP for Nadal. Go for it, Rafa! Vamos!

Oh and breaks! First game to Nadal.

MichaelNadal · Nov 5, 2013

Banos. Keep it up Rafa.

Gonzo_style · Nov 5, 2013

Nardland on fire lol

The_Order · Nov 5, 2013

Gonzo_style said:
Nardland on fire lol

F_ardland was on fire in the first set against Novak last week :lol:

Fiercer · Nov 5, 2013

And Ferrer breaks right back.

Backspin1183 · Nov 5, 2013

And Ferrer breaks back! Lol Nadal looks a bit slow to me.

Terenigma · Nov 5, 2013

Ferrer looks good today and breaks back. Im actually really doubting Nadal will see him off in 2, im actually thinking Ferrer will do this in 3.

6-3 6-0 · Nov 5, 2013

Lol 1-1 :lol:

FreeBird · Nov 5, 2013

Commentator saying that slower courts will help Nadal than Ferrer. Our TW experts think differently. :lol:

RF20Lennon · Nov 5, 2013

FreeBird said:
Commentator saying that slower courts will help Nadal than Ferrer. Our TW experts think differently. :lol:

TW experts> any other commentator. The only time TW experts are wrong about a surface is when Nadal wins and they called the surface as fast.

MichaelNadal · Nov 5, 2013

Rafa needs to make Ferrer run way more than he is.

viduka0101 · Nov 5, 2013

am I the only one that thinks Ferrer has terrible drop shots?

FreeBird · Nov 5, 2013

Terenigma said:
Ferrer looks good today and breaks back. Im actually really doubting Nadal will see him off in 2, im actually thinking Ferrer will do this in 3.

No way. Ferrer has already played valencia and Paris final. He will try to win in 2 or give up.

RF20Lennon · Nov 5, 2013

That was an easy rally backhand miss. Surprising. Carlos Moya looking on.

viduka0101 · Nov 5, 2013

the original Nadal in the crowd

Gonzo_style · Nov 5, 2013

The_Order said:
F_ardland was on fire in the first set against Novak last week :lol:

F_ardland>Nardland

Backspin1183 said:
And Ferrer breaks back! Lol Nadal looks a bit slow to me.

First game - fast
Second game - slow :twisted:

FreeBird · Nov 5, 2013

viduka0101 said:
am I the only one that thinks Ferrer has terrible drop shots?

He makes exquisite BH drops sometimes.

MichaelNadal · Nov 5, 2013

His backhand is garbage today.

LazyNinja19 · Nov 5, 2013

what is Rafa doing :shock:
9 UE in 3 games!

Crayola Oblongata · Nov 5, 2013

What does that white dot above the Sky logo mean?

RF20Lennon · Nov 5, 2013

LazyNinja19 said:
what is Rafa doing :shock:
9 UE in 3 games!

Just give him a bit to adjust. He'll get there!

Terenigma · Nov 5, 2013

Commentators talking about maybe changing ths surface to clay? No. They should make the WTF on Grass. waaaaaay to many clay and hard/indoors and only really 3 grass.

RF20Lennon · Nov 5, 2013

Ferrer not playing that well either. Way below his Paris form.

FreeBird · Nov 5, 2013

Did anyone notice that Ferrer is the only one to successfully utilize weakness of Nadal's BH in 2013?

Terenigma said:
Commentators talking about maybe changing ths surface to clay? No. They should make the WTF on Grass. waaaaaay to many clay and hard/indoors and only really 3 grass.

Grass FTW.

The_Order · Nov 5, 2013

LazyNinja19 said:
what is Rafa doing :shock:
9 UE in 3 games!

I reckon he's trying to play too aggressive so far.

He needs to settle in.

TheF1Bob · Nov 5, 2013

FreeBird said:
Commentator saying that slower courts will help Nadal than Ferrer. Our TW experts think differently. :lol:

The commentators also think that the WTF should should be clay.

RF20Lennon · Nov 5, 2013

Anyone have a good stream? The sport lemon ones keep stopping and starting from the same place so I'm about 5 min behind.

m2nk2 · Nov 5, 2013

Terenigma said:
Commentators talking about maybe changing ths surface to clay? No. They should make the WTF on Grass. waaaaaay to many clay and hard/indoors and only really 3 grass.

Definitely need more clay! But more grass grass is needed too.

viduka0101 · Nov 5, 2013

have to agree that changing the surface to clay would be a big mistake, being probably the 5th biggest tournament in the world makes it special that it's on a different surface

RF20Lennon · Nov 5, 2013

Ferrer seems to be playing really badly. He was the only one that had a chance to take out Nadal. So expect a 3-0 RR.

TCG · Nov 5, 2013

Told you guys that Rafa tanked in Paris. Now look at him playing with intensity again. He will crush Ferru in straights.

Backspin1183 · Nov 5, 2013

Rafa breaks again to lead 3-2. Vamos!

JanowiczJ · Nov 5, 2013

You can see how the slow court affected Ferrer Wide Serve + I/O Forehand combo. He tried it at first but wasn't getting the winners he got in Paris now he's trying to wrong foot Nadal and missing it.

The_Order · Nov 5, 2013

Why not have a clay, grass and hard court?

RR stages - player must play on each surface once (to be drawn randomly) therefore having 1 match on each surface.

Then, the top guys from each group get to choose which surface they want to play the SF and then the final is played based on whoever won the most sets/games.

TheF1Bob · Nov 5, 2013

Ferrer is playing absolutely garbage.

Nadal average but good enough.

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