Where did $20/half set come from? If that's right then this string is going nowhere.
agreed if that is indeed the price
you are in considerably more danger from the exhaust of cars driving by.
That ship is sunk before it's left harbor. I mean, I'm a slippery string maniac, a fanatic. But I'm not paying natural gut prices for some mystery string that reduces inter-string friction by the claimed 20%. Wilson and Prince's open patterned frames reduce total inter-string friction much more than 20% and don't require super-expensive string.It is. $19.95
It is. $19.95
That ship is sunk before it's left harbor.
Yeah, it's just too much. I know this is a string that could be perfect for you too, V-verb - maybe giving you better string life without lubrication - but only at a reasonable price.Agreed. WAY too pricey!!!
So cars are emitting TEFLON FEP particles?
This string is not sticky, it is brittle.
Hit with it the crap out of balls and you will inhale TEFLON FEP.
One particle could be enough in your lungs.
I rather inhale burned fuel.
KR
One particle, huh?
Yeah, it's just too much. I know this is a string that could be perfect for you too, V-verb - maybe giving you better string life without lubrication - but only at a reasonable price.
So cars are emitting TEFLON FEP particles?
This string is not sticky, it is brittle.
Hit with it the crap out of balls and you will inhale TEFLON FEP.
One particle could be enough in your lungs.
I rather inhale burned fuel.
KR
One particle of TEFLON FEP can be enough to cause cancer.
But i bet you get more particles in your lung for 20 bucks /6 meters.
Take the 20 bucks and get some seconds advice by a pro.
Brings you more for your top spin game.
KR
Fast Fret, hmm, thanks for the tip.hi Corners, you are absolutely right!
However yesterday I went to my music store and bought some Fast Fret guitar fret lube. It should last quite a while for less than $9 and avoid me spraying silicone and essentially wasting most of the spray.
Cheers
Then I hope that you don't eat in restaurants! PTFE sprays are commonly used for maintaining kitchen machinery. They put lots of PTFE in the air. And they're not being applied under "clean room" conditions with perfect control. They're being applied by average Joes while the kitchen is operating.
PTFE sprays are also used for bicycle maintenance. Which means that if your bike was serviced by a major chain of stores you probably got PTFE on your socks and pants which ended up on your hands, in your food, and in your home.
And it's used on the glides in your draws in your kitchen!!! As those "plastic", PTFE glides are abraded by the metal runners you're almost certainly getting particles floating around your utensils.
Finally, if you hit with any pace and spin, then you're leaving contrails of tennis ball fuzz floating around your head and breathing in that cloud of debris as you follow through. I'm only a mid-level rec player and generate significant contrails of ball dust glistening in the sun. No doubt I've inhaled a fair amount of it.
I share your concerns about environmental hazards. We live in the most expensive suburb in Georgia and our lawn is the WORST looking in the neighborhood since we don't spray chemicals on it. We have two boys and never thought it was a good idea to put stuff in our grass that requires warning signs that it's dangerous to life. Our neighbors do that and their dog died from cancer and now their mom/wife has cancer. But our modern society is a chemical soup and in some cases worries can be overblown.
Where did $20/half set come from? If that's right then this string is going nowhere.
Needs a playtest.
Are there any clear monofilament polys?
Gamma says Glide is not a coating but a material. Not sure what they mean by that though. Are they saying the entire string is a different material?
But don't really want to pay for it at this price.
Tom
Good. Vote with your wallet and they may drop the price. Unless production costs are sky high for this string, there must be room for a price drop.
I have some as of today. I'm hopeful I can get it in my racquet tonight before I play this evening. Will report back if I'm able to get it strung.
That sounds like a Jack G. connection....
Ah, Torres! I'm not going to disagree with someone I'm so pleased to see un-banished.Depends how long it makes the string bed last. If it extends the playability of a poly bed and delays the strings notching or going dead, the higher cost no longer becomes a factor. If it adds performance as well, that's another bonus.
Absolutely.Needs a playtest.
Klip Armour Pro reportedly has a very hard coating but am not sure about slippery. Have you used it?
Depends how long it makes the string bed last. If it extends the playability of a poly bed and delays the strings notching or going dead, the higher cost no longer becomes a factor. If it adds performance as well, that's another bonus.
Needs a playtest.
Well there's a greater chance that the pro you hire turns out to be a serial murderer. So, mathematically, safer to go with the string.One particle of TEFLON FEP can be enough to cause cancer.
But i bet you get more particles in your lung for 20 bucks /6 meters.
Take the 20 bucks and get some seconds advice by a pro.
Brings you more for your top spin game.
KR
Then I hope that you don't eat in restaurants! PTFE sprays are commonly used for maintaining kitchen machinery. They put lots of PTFE in the air. And they're not being applied under "clean room" conditions with perfect control. They're being applied by average Joes while the kitchen is operating.
PTFE sprays are also used for bicycle maintenance. Which means that if your bike was serviced by a major chain of stores you probably got PTFE on your socks and pants which ended up on your hands, in your food, and in your home.
And it's used on the glides in your draws in your kitchen!!! As those "plastic", PTFE glides are abraded by the metal runners you're almost certainly getting particles floating around your utensils.
Finally, if you hit with any pace and spin, then you're leaving contrails of tennis ball fuzz floating around your head and breathing in that cloud of debris as you follow through. I'm only a mid-level rec player and generate significant contrails of ball dust glistening in the sun. No doubt I've inhaled a fair amount of it.
I share your concerns about environmental hazards. We live in the most expensive suburb in Georgia and our lawn is the WORST looking in the neighborhood since we don't spray chemicals on it. We have two boys and never thought it was a good idea to put stuff in our grass that requires warning signs that it's dangerous to life. Our neighbors do that and their dog died from cancer and now their mom/wife has cancer. But our modern society is a chemical soup and in some cases worries can be overblown.
Then I hope that you don't eat in restaurants!...
And it's used on the glides in your draws in your kitchen!!!...
5 pages of useless posts....
Did anybody actually hit with this string yet?
My arm was aching and I couldn't really play as much as I wanted.
How do you know so much about the dangers of Teflon FEP? Are you in the industry? So far you've made a lot of claims in this thread without offering a shred of evidence to support them. Absent evidence, the least you can do is establish your credentials as an expert.Gamma glide is stiff.
Do not underestimate the arm killing vibrations of TEFLON FEP.
Is has reasons that it is advertised only as cross string.
Would you string it full bed you would also inhale two times more TEFLON FEP particles.
KR
I did, yes. I just have not had time to write up my review yet, as I have a full time job and am under some very tight timelines right now.
Briefly... I think I personally, strung it too tight. I normally string crosses lower than mains. I didn't do that this time due to Gamma recommendation that it be strung 10% tighter. While it did feel stretchy to me and I can understand why they'd say that, I'm a lower tension guy and I think I should have stuck with my normal (string crosses down 3lbs) method of stringing.
My feeling is that when you string crosses tighter, it elongated the sweetspot and I don't care for that feel. Others (in fact many) may disagree, but my string beds are most comfy when I string down.
I also normally would not pair it with Moto, which is a good string but just too stiff for my aging/aching shoulder.
Spin was very good, but honestly I was severely distracted because of the "tight" setup I went with against my better judgment. My arm was aching and I couldn't really play as much as I wanted.
It really should be notes that I don't think the aching shoulder has anything at all to do with Glide. I recently switch to an extended length racquet, and I don't normally use polys or normally string as tight as I did, and that's really what I think ruined this playtest for me.
I have another pack of it, and a little birdie told me to trying pairing it with Professional (my personal favorite multi) and string at my usual tension and see if that doesn't offer me the feel and spin I want.
So I'm afraid my review isn't super useful this time because I'm going to cut the stuff out and trade it for Professional/Glide. I hope to do this in the next day or so and will report back.
Gamma glide is stiff.
Do not underestimate the arm killing vibrations of TEFLON FEP.
Is has reasons that it is advertised only as cross string.
Would you string it full bed you would also inhale two times more TEFLON FEP particles.
KR
Are there any clear monofilament polys?
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In my experience Isospeed Professional is a terrible string to use in the mains if you want them to slide and snapback. The surface of Pro is not slippery, and it is soft and easily deformable, and therefore prone to notching very quickly. If you want to test Glide as a cross string that facilitates sliding and snapping back of the mains, I would choose a different main. Just my two cents, though; you probably have more experience with Pro or are acting on better advice than mine.Putting in either XP/Glide or Professional/Glide within the hour. Will give it another hit this evening.
In my experience Isospeed Professional is a terrible string to use in the mains if you want them to slide and snapback. The surface of Pro is not slippery, and it is soft and easily deformable, and therefore prone to notching very quickly. If you want to test Glide as a cross string that facilitates sliding and snapping back of the mains, I would choose a different main. Just my two cents, though; you probably have more experience with Pro or are acting on better advice than mine.
I see your point. But I wouldn't do it, personally, because I know what Pro/poly is like. Even if Glide is a little more slippery than poly, I doubt it's going to make it much better. There is a big difference between a string pairing that allows for free and easy movement of the mains and one that allows just enough movement for the strings to move out of line and then get stuck there. On the other hand, if Glide really is "all that," maybe it will allow Pro mains to slide and snapback freely. Hope you have fun with whatever you try.I was also considering iO or RZR as a main, strung considerably lower than I did Moto. In fact, I have a half pack of RZR, so maybe I will do that.
However, I agree Pro isn't slippery, but that is partly the whole point isn't it? The claim is that Glide makes any string play better. So testing it with my favorite multi makes sense. I break it ever 6 to 8 hours and the string move and stick a lot.
So if I pair it with Glide and notice less movement, more spin, longer life or any combination thereof, it may suggest some validity to the marketing claim.
I actually think it may be a sensible way to test the string.
Oh, and why is that? I'm hoping for something substantive here.A friend of mine strung it with nat gut in the mains.
This for sure makes you inhaling less TEFLON FEP (cancer cause) than poly/glide.
That's nice.He had same amount of spin as with nat gut/poly.
KR
In my experience Isospeed Professional is a terrible string to use in the mains if you want them to slide and snapback.
Hope you told your friend he has a greater chance of being infected with HIV from the natural gut than developing cancer from Glide.A friend of mine strung it with nat gut in the mains.
This for sure makes you inhaling less TEFLON FEP (cancer cause) than poly/glide.
He had same amount of spin as with nat gut/poly.
KR