I demoed the 330 last week and thought it was pretty amazing but just slightly heavy for me, maybe. Same swing weight as the older 330 but just swings easier somehow ??? Anyway so I played 4 sets with the G 310 last night and couldn't believe it had all the stabilty I needed in 1/2 oz lighter package. I remember saying to myself after taking as big of cuts as I could "the ball just goes in" with a little grin on my face. The cost of that is a little less power but it had enough. It was strung with NXT which I guess is pretty powerful so I don't know how poly would do but I have sworn of that anyhow. Sweet spot was big enough for little miss hits to go in ok but seems there was a spot that just crushed the ball when everything came together correctly, it was a blast. When I got home I had a hard time not just ordering a pr but fought of the urge till I hit it some more, very nice. This is what I had hoped the early vcore 310 was but it was just too stiff for me where as this has some nice flex and is very easy on the arm.
Yonex VCore Tour G
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Power Player
Bionic Poster
For you guys rocking the 330 - when you hit approaches on low short balls that you have to brush up and over the net - how easy is that shot?
Its one shot where a lighter stick can really bail you out - but the hl balance of the Tour G may make that a non issue.
Its one shot where a lighter stick can really bail you out - but the hl balance of the Tour G may make that a non issue.
Vegetable Lasagne
Rookie
Second game with the Tour G 330 after a few adjustments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwGfERYUK8A&feature=youtu.be
Weather wasn't great, but we were able to get a few sets in before the rain got too heavy.
I serve a bit faster with the Tour G, but I'm more consistent with the regular Tour 97.
Backhand topspin now has more power and depth and I'm starting to find my range on forehand groundies.
My backhand slice is popping up and floating rather than biting through the court. Need more time to adjust there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwGfERYUK8A&feature=youtu.be
Weather wasn't great, but we were able to get a few sets in before the rain got too heavy.
I serve a bit faster with the Tour G, but I'm more consistent with the regular Tour 97.
Backhand topspin now has more power and depth and I'm starting to find my range on forehand groundies.
My backhand slice is popping up and floating rather than biting through the court. Need more time to adjust there.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
^^^
Weird, why would that be? The pattern should be the same tightness as the ai98, which is amazing on slices.
Weird, why would that be? The pattern should be the same tightness as the ai98, which is amazing on slices.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Thats interesting..ok - noted. Wonder why - is the string pattern wider or something?
If it is the throat being flexier that probably won't effect me much. Most of my sticks flex in the throat.
If it is the throat being flexier that probably won't effect me much. Most of my sticks flex in the throat.
danbrenner
Legend
Hey VL. Thanks for posting back mate. So it sounds to be honest, that the flex in the G is erratic, and is having a neg effect to your timing?
Matchball
Semi-Pro
Well, pattern is very important, but not the only factor. I look forward to your mini-review.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Im waiting on tw to process my trade in. I thought it may happen today or tomorrow and ill immediately call, buy and overnight for the weekend or monday.
XFactorer
Hall of Fame
Haven't had much play time. I will have more this weekend.
XFactorer
Hall of Fame
How so? The swing weight or static weight? Trajectory? Something else?
aimr75
Hall of Fame
Odd, never found slices an issue with the 310 G
ProRadTour
Semi-Pro
same here, with the 310 slices have been fine.
The entire Vcore design stuff was basically meant to stop this type of thing from happening. The Vcore throat and throat grooves are supposed to resist twisting and keep the racquet face stable at impact. I was hoping that Yonex figured out a way, with the Tour G, to allow the throat to flex a bit but still keep it from twisting on off-centre shots.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Im going to go out on a limb and bet it is going to be fine. But Aimr75 did have this issue with the lighter version i believe. I think the 330's weight should really help with this though.
I was almost tempted to grab a 330 tour demo of the old PJ, but then I remembered that nobody sells it around here. Just the 310.
I was almost tempted to grab a 330 tour demo of the old PJ, but then I remembered that nobody sells it around here. Just the 310.
Matchball
Semi-Pro
Not truly an issue, but for me slices on both sides were more easily accessible (felt more accurate, too, at least initially, like I could aim better) with the non G version. Could well be the fact that I had more time with that frame, so perhaps I am still adapting to the G. Probably a trajectory thing, not 100% sure yet (will try things like different racquet face angles).
Funny thing though is that I do remember that right from the start I had confidence with BH, FH slices when I tried the red and white VCT. IDK. Surely not a deal breaker - I wish I had one of the old ones to do a real side-to-side comparison, but traded them all in.
I spent time coaching yesterday and did not use my VCT Tour Gs. Can't wait to hit again tonight or in the weekend in more demanding conditions.
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Chuonfood
Semi-Pro
I'm getting tired of demoing and just want to settle on one racquet to be with me for years to come...
I'm used to HL, 11.7oz + weight, not stiff feeling but more on plush, spin, big serves, all around player, 4.0. My racquets of the past were 6.1 95 blx, PS 90 BLX, and currently hit with the PS 85 all strung with full poly.
Will the Tour G 330 be a good choice for me? Remember, I'm sick of demoing!!!
I'm used to HL, 11.7oz + weight, not stiff feeling but more on plush, spin, big serves, all around player, 4.0. My racquets of the past were 6.1 95 blx, PS 90 BLX, and currently hit with the PS 85 all strung with full poly.
Will the Tour G 330 be a good choice for me? Remember, I'm sick of demoing!!!
Power Player
Bionic Poster
How is anyone supposed to tell you that? Its a personal decision. It sounds like you would like the Tour G, but maybe not??
Chuonfood
Semi-Pro
Someone who's hit with similar racquets as mine and who also has the Tour G as one of their options.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
It still boils down to your opinion. Yes you should try this racquet.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Looks like TW has let me down. Well not really, it is in their guidelines that it takes 3 business days to price a racquet, but I thought this would be pretty easy. I won't get that credit until late today or tomorrow it seems like. So ill have the tour G next week it appears.
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
'Nah, wide'
O RLY???
(Posts slo mo replay on international forum)
Gold
Veg Lasagne awesomeness
O RLY???
(Posts slo mo replay on international forum)
Gold
Veg Lasagne awesomeness
dgoran
Hall of Fame
Etenni$ has it or that's at least where I got mine
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
I'll give you 3 options:
1 - (Customized) Pro Staff 95/BLX Six.One Pro Staff 95
2 - YouTek IG Prestige Pro
3 - Yonex Tour G
I own the first two and they are an absolute dream, more control, spin and touch with the Pro Staff though (Prestige has more power and stability). Haven't had the chance to play the Tour G, but from what I've heard it plays very similar to the IG Prestige Pro.
I for my part am unsure of whether you will like the Tour G because we're talking about a major transition from a 85 to a 97 (that almost plays like a 100). In my opinion, you have no way of getting around demoing. If you still refuse to demo then get the Pro Staff 95. It's light and HL, meaning that you can easily customize it into a racquet that you'll like, unlike the other two, where there isn't quite as much room for customization (also the price of the BLX PS 6.1 95 is unbeatable right now).
Vegetable Lasagne
Rookie
Sorry for late responses guys.
Been working night shifts at the station house and can't post when on duty.
Yep, exactly what I was trying to explain to numbnuts earlier.
It has nothing to do with minor manufacturing inconsistencies.
The Tour G 330 is easier to swing than the Tour 97 330.
Thanks for posting your findings.
This is one shot that I think is easier with the Tour G than the Tour 97.
The increased maneuverability of the Tour G enables you to make adjustments quicker, plus the added feel of the Tour G enables you to work the ball.
I think finesse shots in general are better with the Tour G.
Hey cheers mate.
The first court we were playing on had no lights in the back corner.
We were really struggling to see the ball back there, so we moved to the brighter court.
Been working night shifts at the station house and can't post when on duty.
Yep, exactly what I was trying to explain to numbnuts earlier.
It has nothing to do with minor manufacturing inconsistencies.
The Tour G 330 is easier to swing than the Tour 97 330.
Thanks for posting your findings.
This is one shot that I think is easier with the Tour G than the Tour 97.
The increased maneuverability of the Tour G enables you to make adjustments quicker, plus the added feel of the Tour G enables you to work the ball.
I think finesse shots in general are better with the Tour G.
looks like you had some really nice points there - does seem really dark though. assume thats just the camera and you're not really playing in total darkness at either end of the court ?
Hey cheers mate.
The first court we were playing on had no lights in the back corner.
We were really struggling to see the ball back there, so we moved to the brighter court.
Vegetable Lasagne
Rookie
Yeah, I neglected to mention those FH squash shots.
I'm finding them very tough to get back deep when stretched.
Have to remember to hit them harder than what I would have with the Tour 97.
Overall, I think the Tour G 330 is a more demanding frame to play with than the Tour 97.
Cheers Dan.
I don't think it's erratic, I think it just takes some getting used to. Especially coming from a stiffer playing frame like the Tour 97.
My early inconsistencies with the Tour G were definitely due to the ultra low tension of my stringbed.
After playing with 53lb tension, I'd guess that the first game I played was with string tension somewhere in the low 40's.
I too agree with both your assessments. Tour G 330 is easier to swing than the original Tour 330. And the shot is easier with the Tour G 330 because there is more feel and because the ball leaves the stringed quicker on the older vcore tour 330 so there is less control
Vegetable Lasagne
Rookie
Vegetable Lasagne
Rookie
I played with the Pro Staff 85 when I was growing up.
Over time I have tried many larger headed frames ranging from 90 to 100, and my fave frames to date have been the Yonex Vcore 97 series.
If you can wield the PS 85, I think you might really like the Tour G 330.
Vegetable Lasagne
Rookie
Damn man, looking forward to your thoughts on the G 330.
'Nah, wide'
O RLY???
(Posts slo mo replay on international forum)
Gold
Veg Lasagne awesomeness
Ha!
Yes exactly!
The Tour 97 is more suited to bashing winners from the baseline with brute force, whereas the Tour G can still bash but is far more adept at moving your opponent around with spin.
And the Tour G's old school feel makes it a better weapon up at net.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
The G versions of this racquet that I tried feel a little lighter and seem to have less swing weight than the ones they replace, which is a pity for two reasons.
1. TW specs indicate they would be the same or even a little heavier.
2. As I'm only interested in the 310, the fact is that I prefer the previous version on these grounds alone.
1. TW specs indicate they would be the same or even a little heavier.
2. As I'm only interested in the 310, the fact is that I prefer the previous version on these grounds alone.
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Well, numbnuts, you are still only dealing with one racquet, but if it feels easier to swing its either the weight, swingweight and balance point that are different or some combination of the three.
The reality is that I have found that you can kindly disregard TW specs, at least for the shop where I tried them. But if TW can find me a heavier feeling 310 I'd be happy.
The reality is that I have found that you can kindly disregard TW specs, at least for the shop where I tried them. But if TW can find me a heavier feeling 310 I'd be happy.
parasailing
Legend
I am on the fence as to which racquet I want to purchase given that it's gong to be quite difficult for me to obtain a demo.
If the specs are lower than what TW has stated, then I would be interested in the 330 version but I am still concern that it is a bit too much in terms of combination of SW and static weight.
I usually like a racquet's static weight to be in the range of 11.5-11.9oz and SW of 320-328 but given the TW specs are 12.2oz and SW of 333, I think it might to be a bit too much to handle.
I did try both original Vcore 310 and 330 and found the 310 to be lacking a bit in plow thru which means lead customization and 330 to be a unwieldy.
If the specs are lower than what TW has stated, then I would be interested in the 330 version but I am still concern that it is a bit too much in terms of combination of SW and static weight.
I usually like a racquet's static weight to be in the range of 11.5-11.9oz and SW of 320-328 but given the TW specs are 12.2oz and SW of 333, I think it might to be a bit too much to handle.
I did try both original Vcore 310 and 330 and found the 310 to be lacking a bit in plow thru which means lead customization and 330 to be a unwieldy.
Straight-Arm-FH
Banned
Got my 330 Tour G this week, here is my take on it comparing to Wilson PS 95s and Prince Tour 98 Esp
First, just like to mention I have had VCT 89 for a year, so I am not unfamiliar to Yonex. After a season using it, I finally gave up on it due to the stiffness that led various aches and pains. Although I thoroughly enjoyed the racket, the stiffness eventually got to me. In its replacement I ended up going back to my Wilson BLX ps 90 2012. Much more comfortable, although I shank and spray more with it.
When I heard the new Tour G was softer and more flexible, not to mention Stan the Man winning AO, I could not resist.
Here is my 2 cents worth after a week of demo:
Not as stiff as it's predecessor. Comfortable but not as comfortable as Wilson PS. 95s or Prince Tour 98 esp.
The throat yield and flexes which gives a sense of delayed response, as if the dwell time/pocketing on the racquet is longer than usual. That can be both good or bad. Good if you intended it such as in power ground strokes when you have plenty of time to set up. Bad when you are doing reflex volleys.
So is the flexi throat a good thing or bad? I think it takes some getting use to. (It also loses some power.)
Unlike both Prince and Wilson spin monsters, the Tour G does not have a open spin pattern. 16x20 appears to be very dense especially where the sweet spot is. I suppose the manufacturer does not believe it is the open pattern that generates spin despite Yonex advertise itself "Spin it to Win it."
I do not find the Tour G to give any excessive or easy spin like other two racquets. In fact it is no different than it's pred VCT 97. Very conventional.
I do find it is much whippier than the VCT 97- maybe it's the anti drag matt paint-who knows.
I do find the new carbon composite generates more power than the pred.
So in conclusion, will I adopt this frame this season? Probably not. I will prob default to ps 95s or tour 98 esp. IMO, the Tour G update is not significant enough, rather this is not a game changer like so much of the spin racquets. Although Yonex got its stiffness rating down by making the throat more flexible, BUT this racquet still feels stiff. Finally, the overflexing of the throat, I am not sure this is entirely a good thing. Overall, I have to say, I am disappointed in this overly hyped model.
First, just like to mention I have had VCT 89 for a year, so I am not unfamiliar to Yonex. After a season using it, I finally gave up on it due to the stiffness that led various aches and pains. Although I thoroughly enjoyed the racket, the stiffness eventually got to me. In its replacement I ended up going back to my Wilson BLX ps 90 2012. Much more comfortable, although I shank and spray more with it.
When I heard the new Tour G was softer and more flexible, not to mention Stan the Man winning AO, I could not resist.
Here is my 2 cents worth after a week of demo:
Not as stiff as it's predecessor. Comfortable but not as comfortable as Wilson PS. 95s or Prince Tour 98 esp.
The throat yield and flexes which gives a sense of delayed response, as if the dwell time/pocketing on the racquet is longer than usual. That can be both good or bad. Good if you intended it such as in power ground strokes when you have plenty of time to set up. Bad when you are doing reflex volleys.
So is the flexi throat a good thing or bad? I think it takes some getting use to. (It also loses some power.)
Unlike both Prince and Wilson spin monsters, the Tour G does not have a open spin pattern. 16x20 appears to be very dense especially where the sweet spot is. I suppose the manufacturer does not believe it is the open pattern that generates spin despite Yonex advertise itself "Spin it to Win it."
I do not find the Tour G to give any excessive or easy spin like other two racquets. In fact it is no different than it's pred VCT 97. Very conventional.
I do find it is much whippier than the VCT 97- maybe it's the anti drag matt paint-who knows.
I do find the new carbon composite generates more power than the pred.
So in conclusion, will I adopt this frame this season? Probably not. I will prob default to ps 95s or tour 98 esp. IMO, the Tour G update is not significant enough, rather this is not a game changer like so much of the spin racquets. Although Yonex got its stiffness rating down by making the throat more flexible, BUT this racquet still feels stiff. Finally, the overflexing of the throat, I am not sure this is entirely a good thing. Overall, I have to say, I am disappointed in this overly hyped model.
Fed Kennedy
Legend
You have excellent taste in racquets sir
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
finally some truly objective feedback, thanks. Now there seems to be one less racquet out there for me to test
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
finally some truly objective feedback, thanks. Now there seems to be one less racquet out there for me to test
hmmm...based on one vs. 50 other views, I am still testing it...
ALL I am hoping is that the G is softer version of the VCT97. The (customized 310g version) VCT97 was the perfection minus the arm pains.
parasailing
Legend
Yeah I agree. Those that are somewhat on the fence should demo the racquet. I have hit with the 95S and some of the other Spin racquets on the market and I prefer the less open string pattern but that's just my preference.
Those most interested are people like us who like the VCT97 but found the stiffness just too much. I also didn't particular like the shape of the VCT97 as off center hits felt a bit tinny but that could have been due to the stiffness. Does anyone know if the racquet head shape of the new Tour G is similar to the VCT97?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I got the demo from the competitor here and had a 2-hour hit today. I set it up the way my VCT97-310's were, MINUS the strings. It came with the Sensation, I use the Tour Bite Soft 17g. Big difference, no grab from the Synt Gut. It is being re-strung.
First impression -- I like the feel, definitely feels softer (although, the strings are softer). However, you can feel it flex in the throat.
It is also more powerful than the VCT97 (I am not sure if the strings contributed to that, I haven't used the Synthetic gut since 2008).
I will have a few more sessions by the time it needs to go back, and will be picking it up tomorrow, freshly strung the way I like it...
Headsapes identical except the g doesn't have the bulges at 10 & 2.
Looking forward to hearing how they compare.
parasailing
Legend
So have you hit with the Vcore tour G either the 310 or 330 version and the AI 98 and can compare the head shape and racquets? I have the AI 98 and love the racquet so far but curious what the Vcore Tour G provides that the AI 98 doesn't. I notice with the AI 98 I get a lot of racquet speed but balls have a lower trajectory than my Graphene Speed Pro and wondering if Vcore Tour G will be somewhere in between the two.
