Anyone got a link to the actual course? There is nothing specific on his website
It will improve the serve of someone using a pancake motion and forehand grip.
It will not improve Pete Sampras's serve whatsoever.
This.ALWAYS, be wary of the person who says HIS way is the right way...
I purchased it about a week ago. There are good videos in there. He also will analyze a video of your serve. Both the videos and the actual analysis are helpful. I've fixed a few hitches in my serve, and am improving a bit. It all takes time. But for the cost of it with a discount, it's less than a lesson, so I say it was worth it.
I tried the serve blue print course recently and I think it's a great value. I was really impressed by the results and also how little time was needed to make the tweaks for significant improvement. My serve was not that bad to begin with and was averaging 3 aces per set at my level (4). But I ran into a roadblock with my 2nd serve when I tried to make it better. After trying to work on it my own for couple of months I decided to try the serve course. It helped my serve like I never expected.
Interesting. So you were already a 4.0+ player and it helped with your second serve. Did you find the videos too simple for your relatively advanced level?
Did you upload a second serve video to him for analysis?
He has a 2 minute sample here but I'm wondering how thoroughly he goes through everything in the motion and approximately how many minutes his analysis is.
The serve course has 40+ videos and TBH, 30+ of them are probably not useful for me though it will be great for someone looking to build a proper serve motion from scratch. I wish I had come across Florian's lessons when was a 3.0 player and would
have saved several hitting sessions(some with a $$ pro) to get to my current serve level.
As part of the course, Did you have an option of uploading your serve vid for review?
I wish I had come across Florian's lessons when was a 3.0 player and would
have saved several hitting sessions(some with a $$ pro) to get to my current serve level.
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His videos convinced me that I should hit 1st and 2nd serves identically and only with a minor adjustment(to the upward angle and safe targets) instead of trying to bring the racket up differently (like many coaches advocate) to brush up more on 2nd serves.
Good example of why taking lessons from local coaches is often a waste of time and money for adult players.
Many adult players (like me) are beyond repair for the local coaches. We are no longer malleable and ductile enough to get anything useful.
this is reasonable.I'm highly sceptical of any coach that needs 40+ videos to get his point over.
I'm highly sceptical of any coach that needs 40+ videos to get his point over.
can you post the link if it is freeI took this course several years ago. It was somewhat useful but I couldn’t really see a big improvement in my first serve. I was googling serve videos a couple of months ago and watched a
Serve lesson by Ian from Essential Tennis. That was the best lesson I’ve ever had and it was free. My problem was basically not fully engaging my shoulders, starting at trophy pose (external rotation) and internal rotation into contact. He explained so that I could pronate without thinking about it. My serve has much more pace now.
Hi guys
What you get is a module with around 10 videos on the fundamentals of the serve, a module with step by step progressions (good stuff!!!), a module with fixes for the most common problems, a kick serve module, a stance module, a drills module, and some "bonus videos". AND a video analysis, you can see mine here:
https://www.coachseye.com/v/77fe2753255e49c5be81ccd71c20d6e2
People are different, and the serve is very complex. To me, his "right to left, bend at the elbow" concept works, and makes a difference for me, after trying 3 other serve courses, thats why I recommend it. But of course I can't guarantee it to work for other people...
Hi guys
What you get is a module with around 10 videos on the fundamentals of the serve, a module with step by step progressions (good stuff!!!), a module with fixes for the most common problems, a kick serve module, a stance module, a drills module, and some "bonus videos". AND a video analysis, you can see mine here:
https://www.coachseye.com/v/77fe2753255e49c5be81ccd71c20d6e2
People are different, and the serve is very complex. To me, his "right to left, bend at the elbow" concept works, and makes a difference for me, after trying 3 other serve courses, thats why I recommend it. But of course I can't guarantee it to work for other people...
Everyone of these guys make money on clicks. So the more content they produce, the more revenue they generate.I'm highly sceptical of any coach that needs 40+ videos to get his point over.
You may have to see it a few times, when I do what he say I bring the racket arm to the right side of the body, lifting it up pretty straight up until the albow is at shoulder height or a bit below THEN bend the albow, and that brings up the racket so it drops along right side of body, giving me an upward swing instead of a more forward swing. There are probably many ways to achieve this, but his advice works for me; I get more effortless powerI just watched your video analysis video. I am quite confused by what he means by the tip of the racquet traveling in a circular counter clockwise path (as he drew on your video).
Is he saying the takeback part of the swing should be more along the right side of your body?
The pros seem to have various takebacks on the serve. Some more straight back and some more to the side and some are sort of abbreviated like Monfils & Roddick.
IMO, your takeback looks mostly okay, but your right upper arm is a bit too high and you are swinging arming the serve a little bit too much instead of initiating the swing from more of a natural throwing motion where the torse/shoulder/upper arm/forearm/hand lags in sequence.
I don’t have the link. I came across the lesson on YouTube. I would bet if you googled YouTube serve Essential Tennis you could find it. It was about a 7 to 10 minute lesson. Then of course he wants you to signup for his program which I didn’t do. He went over the takeback and external shoulder rotation at trophy pose in such a way that you pronate without thinking about it. This fixed my flat serve. I may eventually signup for his program.can you post the link if it is free
You may have to see it a few times, when I do what he say I bring the racket arm to the right side of the body, lifting it up pretty straight up until the albow is at shoulder height or a bit below THEN bend the albow, and that brings up the racket so it drops along right side of body, giving me an upward swing instead of a more forward swing. There are probably many ways to achieve this, but his advice works for me; I get more effortless power
BUT I need to work on NOT taking the racket arm up above shoulder level before albow bend, old bad habit...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjege6FyYvbAhUpja0KHbG5CioQwqsBCA0wAA&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtqaKjZVPs&usg=AOvVaw3nU8LDd1N9c_0UdRbtMBbu I did find the link. He goes over some basic things initially like how to throw and the continental grip but the most helpful is the racquet face at takeback and trophy pose on thru contact. Anyway very basic but for meI don’t have the link. I came across the lesson on YouTube. I would bet if you googled YouTube serve Essential Tennis you could find it. It was about a 7 to 10 minute lesson. Then of course he wants you to signup for his program which I didn’t do. He went over the takeback and external shoulder rotation at trophy pose in such a way that you pronate without thinking about it. This fixed my flat serve. I may eventually signup for his program.
I just watched your video analysis video. I am quite confused by what he means by the tip of the racquet traveling in a circular counter clockwise path (as he drew on your video).
Is he saying the takeback part of the swing should be more along the right side of your body?
The pros seem to have various takebacks on the serve. Some more straight back and some more to the side and some are sort of abbreviated like Monfils & Roddick.
IMO, your takeback looks mostly okay, but your right upper arm is a bit too high and you are swinging arming the serve a little bit too much instead of initiating the swing from more of a natural throwing motion where the torse/shoulder/upper arm/forearm/hand lags in sequence.
I find this really interesting, tried the other day and think it makes a difference. But I don't understand the rationale behind it.Having watched Joakim's video I think this relates to and might help explain what he was trying to have Joakim do:
fwiw
Thank YOU!https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjege6FyYvbAhUpja0KHbG5CioQwqsBCA0wAA&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtqaKjZVPs&usg=AOvVaw3nU8LDd1N9c_0UdRbtMBbu I did find the link. He goes over some basic things initially like how to throw and the continental grip but the most helpful is the racquet face at takeback and trophy pose on thru contact. Anyway very basic but for me
very helpful.
Hi OneHandBHIn the video you linked to in your post, I looked at it a again but I still don't quite get it. Can you post a video of your serve after you made the adjustment he suggested?
(preferably from the same angle)
Exactly my experience as well.Hi OneHandBH
Ill try to film myself, trying to explain what I THINK he means, think Ill get a chance in the weekend... But I think his point is to make sure the racket drops at right side of body, from where it will travel straight up, adding more power, spin and accuracy (?), rather than behind body where it will go a bit left to right; more forward, less upwards.
His concept is to keep the racket face facing the ground, then taking it up on edge over your head BY BENDING THE ALBOW (very important...) If I do that it seems I get good drop and pronation and effortless power
- But still need to work a lot on that...
Thats interesting, I think you´re right!Having watched Joakim's video I think this relates to and might help explain what he was trying to have Joakim do:
fwiw
I find this really interesting, tried the other day and think it makes a difference. But I don't understand the rationale behind it.
Hi OneHandBackhandIn the video you linked to in your post, I looked at it a again but I still don't quite get it. Can you post a video of your serve after you made the adjustment he suggested?
(preferably from the same angle)
Hi KevoWhen you serve or hit ground strokes for that matter, you are essentially winding and loading your body like springs and rubber bands on the back swing, and then unwinding them on the forward swings. So whatever you do in the back swing comes undone in the forward swing.
In the video if you look at the two versions he demonstrates the outside backswing results in the racquet making contact with the ball over his head in line with his body. That's what you want. You want to turn your whole body into a long lever at contact that unloads all that energy into the ball. The second version where the take back is more to the inside of his body results in a contact position more to his right which is outside the line of the body. That is going to produce a less effective more disconnected lever at contact. Less of his body weight will make it into the ball and the leverage of the arm rotation is going to be substantially reduced as well because of the more straightened arm and racquet.
There is a big and not easy to fix problem there. The almost full elbow flexion during the racket drop where it shouldnt ideally pass beyond 90 degrees. That results in an 'artificial' racket drop like a little cheat. With 90 degrees though it's a pure external shoulder rotation.Hi Kevo
If you take a look at this, do you think im on the right track?
do you think im on the right track?
Very good video. I'm surprised he doesn't specifically mention that the elbow shouldn't be bent/flexed beyond 90 degrees, or did I miss it maybe?I know I wasnt asked but since you are on the wrong track with that deep elbow flexion you really need to see and understand this video:
Watch it a couple of times, pause, rewind, reflect.