Bench Press

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
Starting Point 185lbs 3x5

Do two sets of 5 and on the last set go for reps. If you get at least 8, the next time you bench press do 190lbs in the same way (2x5, 1xF). This is a more strength oriented approach though.

In this way, if all goes well then you get to the next block of your method (205lbs 3x5) in about 4 bench press sessions as opposed to months.

How do you determine what weight to start at for the three sets of 5 (last one
to F).

Seeing if I understand this method: so you only increase weight if you get
8 reps on the last set? (e.g. 185x5, 185x5, 185x8)

How often would you do benches?

Any advice on an overall, whole body routine that is 2 or 3x per week in
the gym.
 

Itagaki

Semi-Pro
Basically, over time as I get stronger, I'm able to do more reps per set. It sorta evolved from high school when I worked out with the football team after school. They did a warm up, 5 sets of 5 on bench - increasing weight each set - and a cool down. So when I got outta high school and joined a gym, my 5 sets started to include warm up and cool down with 3 sets of doing same weight.

Well that's what gets me... It sorta reads like this

Start here
?????
Progress happens

It's just not measurable enough for me. There are programs that run similar to the idea (of adding reps over time), most notably some Hepburn programs. But this one progresses methodically.

I think it's something like 4 days a week, you do the same exercise and weight each day. Each week you add a rep to one of the days. So week one might go like this

Squat 300lbs
2, 2, 2, 2

Week 2
3, 2, 2, 2

Week 3
3, 3, 2, 2

Week 4
3, 3, 3, 2

Week 5
3, 3, 3, 3

Add weight and restart.

It's something akin to that anyway. How long does it take you to go from 3x5 to 3x10 and with how many sessions a week?


How do you determine what weight to start at for the three sets of 5 (last one
to F).

Seeing if I understand this method: so you only increase weight if you get
8 reps on the last set? (e.g. 185x5, 185x5, 185x8)

How often would you do benches?

Any advice on an overall, whole body routine that is 2 or 3x per week in
the gym.

The determining of the start set would depend on your level of experience. For a rank beginner, probably the SS method. Do a set of 5, add weight, do a set, add weight etc until the bar speed begins to slow down. Then at that point do two more sets of 5 and that's the first day

Otherwise I'd just pick a weight you can comfortably do 3x5 with. Doesn't have to be ambitious as the set to failure helps take care of how light it is.

It would probably be in the context of a full body routine three days/week. Bench press itself would be 1-2 times per week. Ideally alternating with overhead press. (i.e. Bench, OHP, Bench, OHP, Bench, OHP is the first two weeks)
 

sabala

Semi-Pro
Today I did 275 for 20 reps for 3 sets 5min rest between sets. Both new shoulders feel great.

Monstrous! Must feel good to be back, nice job!


Well that's what gets me... It sorta reads like this

Start here
?????
Progress happens

It's just not measurable enough for me. There are programs that run similar to the idea (of adding reps over time), most notably some Hepburn programs. But this one progresses methodically.

I think it's something like 4 days a week, you do the same exercise and weight each day. Each week you add a rep to one of the days. So week one might go like this

Squat 300lbs
2, 2, 2, 2

Week 2
3, 2, 2, 2

Week 3
3, 3, 2, 2

Week 4
3, 3, 3, 2

Week 5
3, 3, 3, 3

Add weight and restart.

It's something akin to that anyway. How long does it take you to go from 3x5 to 3x10 and with how many sessions a week?
...

Depends on how faithful I am to getting into the gym :) Maybe a month to 3 months? Seems like I progress slower at the 225 weight though.

I don't do a specific # of days per week. I just worry about how many days rest between workouts and I will vary those on occasion, (see post 300).

My reps will vary each set. I will go to the gym this weekend, (PROMISE!!) and guessing I will start bench at 165lbs. Warm up of 145 then 1st set, probably 5 reps, 2nd set, maybe 3 or 4 reps and 3rd set probably 3 reps at most - I don't use a spotter as well.

In a months time, (still doing 165lbs) it may be something like 1x7, 1x5, 1x4. In 2months time I may be at 1x10, 2x9 and at that point, the next time I go in, I'll move up in weight - either 180 or 185, (probably 185 since it looks more impressive, heh) anyway, I won't really know until I get in and start lifting. Guess I will have to update here now!

Checked the 24Hr Fitness site. My last workout was May 25th, 2011!:shock: Looking back at my records, it seems I go 6 - 8 times per month on average. I do upper/lower body on same day too and have pretty limited number of exercises I do. I actually hate going to the gym, lol, but I know if you want results you have to make it a habit as well as push yourself.

P.S. I worked out with Bubba Smith years ago - he was a member at my gym. Dude was in there EVERY DAY! Worked out with him on bench, (speaking of) once and I was.... sooooo sore afterwards I didn't go back in for a week! Super nice dude, miss seein' him around, that's for sure..
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
Thanks. I'll give it try if I decide to test how much I can lift.


Well that's what gets me... It sorta reads like this

Start here
?????
Progress happens

It's just not measurable enough for me. There are programs that run similar to the idea (of adding reps over time), most notably some Hepburn programs. But this one progresses methodically.

I think it's something like 4 days a week, you do the same exercise and weight each day. Each week you add a rep to one of the days. So week one might go like this

Squat 300lbs
2, 2, 2, 2

Week 2
3, 2, 2, 2

Week 3
3, 3, 2, 2

Week 4
3, 3, 3, 2

Week 5
3, 3, 3, 3

Add weight and restart.

It's something akin to that anyway. How long does it take you to go from 3x5 to 3x10 and with how many sessions a week?




The determining of the start set would depend on your level of experience. For a rank beginner, probably the SS method. Do a set of 5, add weight, do a set, add weight etc until the bar speed begins to slow down. Then at that point do two more sets of 5 and that's the first day

Otherwise I'd just pick a weight you can comfortably do 3x5 with. Doesn't have to be ambitious as the set to failure helps take care of how light it is.

It would probably be in the context of a full body routine three days/week. Bench press itself would be 1-2 times per week. Ideally alternating with overhead press. (i.e. Bench, OHP, Bench, OHP, Bench, OHP is the first two weeks)
 

FastFreddy

Semi-Pro
training

Thanks, muscle memory. Since Iam done with marathons for now and tennis I can put all my energy into lifting ie benching. I still ride my spin bike everyday to keep the blood flowing and my lungs and heart pumping.
 

sabala

Semi-Pro
03/02/13 - First time benching today in 21 months! Did 135x10, then 155x5, 155x4, 155x3 and 135x3 for the first day back. Will see how long it takes to move up to 185...

*updates* Might as well monitor my progression here -

*03/19/13* - Today was my 1st time lifting since 3/2/13 but I did - 135x10, 155x5/3 sets, 135x3 so a slight improvement...could be awhile to 185 at this rate!
*03/24/13* - Benching today was - 135x10, 155x7, 155x6, 155x5, 135x5
*03/27/13* - Felt pretty good today, first time I wasn't sore going in. Today was - 135x15, 155x9, 155x7, 155x6, 135x4
*03/30/13* - 135x13, 155x9, 155x8, 155x6, 135x4
*04/02/13* - 135x15, 155x10/2 sets, 155x9.5, (couldn't go up all the way, had to drop it on the lower bar holder) 135x3
*04/06/13* - 135x15, 185x3/3 sets, 135x7, (for the record, I'm weighing in at 160.2 lbs currently)
*04/10/13* - 135x15, 185x4, 185x3/2 sets, 135x10
*04/13/13* - 135x20, 185x5, 185x4/2 sets, 135x8
*04/16/13* - 135x20, 185x6, 185x5/2 sets, 135x5
*04/21/13* - 135x23, 185x7, 185x6, 185x5, 135x10
*04/24/13* - 135x23, 185x7, 185x6, 185x5, 135x5
*04/27/13* - 135x23, 185x8, 185x7, 185x6, 135x8
*05/01/13* - 135x20, 185x9, 185x7, 185x6, 135x5
*05/04/13* - 135x23, 185x8, 185x8, 185x7.5,(needed help from spotter) 135x8
*05/09/13* - 135x20, 185x9, 185x8, 185x7, 135x8
*05/12/13* - 135x20, 185x10, 185x9.5, 185x8.5,135x8(dropped the last 2 on the lower bar holder-total failure!) 135x5
*05/17/13* - 135x25, 185x10, 185x9, 185x8,135x8(late workout/empty stomach/bad sleep = no gains today)
*05/20/13* - 135x23, 185x10, 185x9.5, 185x8,135x8(hmmm, seem to be hitting a wall here!)
*05/23/13* - 135x23, 185x10, 185x9.5, 185x8,135x8
*05/27/13* - 135x23, 205x5/3 sets, 135x8
*05/31/13* - 135x23, 205x5, 205x4, 205x5, 135x7
*06/04/13* - 135x23, 205x5/3 sets, 135x8
*06/07/13* - 135x25, 205x6, 205x5/2 sets, 135x8
*06/10/13* - 135x30, 205x7, 205x5/2 sets, 135x7
*06/13/13* - 135x20, 205x6/2 sets, 205x5,135x5
*06/17/13* - 135x25, 205x6/3 sets, 135x8
*06/21/13* - 135x23, 205x7/2 sets, 205x6,135x5
*06/24/13* - 135x25, 205x7/3 sets, 135x5
*06/28/13* - 135x25, 205x8, 205x7.5, 205x6, 135x5
*07/02/13* - 135x29, 205x6/3 sets, 135x6
*07/10/13* - 135x20, 205x4, 205x5, 205x4, 135x5, Well, so much for not going more than 4 days w/o working out!
*07/15/13* - 135x20, 205x3, 205x5/2 sets, 135x8
*07/18/13* - 135x20, 205x4, 205x5/2 sets, 135x8
*07/21/13* - 135x23, 205x5, 205x4/2 sets, 135x8
*07/27/13* - 135x20, 185x5, 185x7/2 sets, 135x5, Def. shouldn't go more than 4 days w/o benching! :/
*07/31/13* - 135x23, 185x10/3 sets, 135x5, ok, back to 205 next time. Also, weighing in at 154 lbs currently.
*08/03/13* - 135x23, 205x5/3 sets, 135x8
*08/11/13* - 135x15, 185x5, 185x7, 135x4 - bike crash on 08/03 kept me outta the gym until today
*08/16/13* - 135x15, 185x5, 185x7/2 sets, 135x4
*08/21/13* - 135x15, 185x6/3 sets
*08/28/13* - 135x20, 185x7/3 sets
 
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T1000

Legend
Back in the gym on Monday and gonna start Bill Starr's Madcow 5x5. Hoping to get to 600 dead 455 squat and 275 bench by September natty (at 455 275 205 now after mono/flu) then start using the good stuff. Hopefully my numbers will be good enough to compete in 2014
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
I question I have for the TW benchers.

Why is it that if I do 135x10, 155x8, 135x10
vs
135x10, 155x8, 175x?, 135x10

In the second version, the last 135x10 seems a lot easier?
 
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Itagaki

Semi-Pro
Back in the gym on Monday and gonna start Bill Starr's Madcow 5x5. Hoping to get to 600 dead 455 squat and 275 bench by September natty (at 455 275 205 now after mono/flu) then start using the good stuff. Hopefully my numbers will be good enough to compete in 2014

Those would be some sweet ass numbers to attain, what bodyweight do you hope to end at with it?

I question I have for the TW benchers.

Why is it that if I do 135x10, 155x8, 135x10
vs
135x10, 155x8, 175x?, 135x10

In the second version, the last 135x10 seems a lot easier?

There's some neurological component. I've heard it thrown around that by going up and doing a heavier weight first it gets more neurons firing which makes down sets much easier to do (besides the psychological component of this feels lighter than what I just did)

It's sort of the basic premise of the Bulgarian training method for Olympic weightlifting. Single up to a daily max (not always a true max or personal record) and then drop down for volume.

Max Aita did it for squats multiple times a day for a few months and went from a 250kg squat to a 302kg squat in maybe 3 or 4 months.
 

T1000

Legend
Those would be some sweet ass numbers to attain, what bodyweight do you hope to end at with it?

24 weeks and I'm 165 now so if I do 1.5lb/week bulk I'd be 201 or I'd be 189 if I do 1lb/week. Not sure yet, gonna aim for 1.5 first and see how that goes for the first 12 weeks. Might up it to 2lbs/week if I'm comfortable with the amount of fat I'm carrying. The gear I wanna run cuts you up nice any way so fat gain doesn't concern me at all.
 
bench pressing

Here are my best bench numbers at certain body weight.
158 benched 225
170 benched 300
185 benched 340
192 benched 365
206 benched 385
213 benched 405
223 benched 425
Now I still can put up 385 at 209, but I benching is wrecking my right shoulder again. So I do 285 for 15 reps 3 sets. I have too get a mri on my shoulder this week I think I tore it up on the tennis court 3 weeks ago hitting a high two hand backhand and hurt it again this past weekend on the backhand again. I already had two rotator cuff surgery one one the left and one on the right. I think I need another one on the right or lots of pt and no more bench and switch to a one hand backhand.



i think it's cool that you guys are discussing bench pressing on a tennis forum. the best way to increase your bench press is to change up everything and keep your body guessing. you have probably heard this a million times but here it is.

try heavy flat and heavy incline for a month
do 4 muscles per session
day 1 chest, tris, calves, legs
3 sets bench heavy flat 4 reps (warm up first work up to the heavy weight)
2 sets incline heavy 4 reps same
3 sets of reverse dips to hard burn
2 sets of cable push downs heavy to burn
5 sets of calves (you pick just make it burn bad)
2 sets of squats do heavy one day and light the next
3 sets of leg press do heavy one day then light the next

try this for a month alternating and working out 4 days a week with weights
the next month increase your reps with moderate intensity
third month increase your reps and intensity
then start all over
watch your strength go throug the roof
eat as much protein as you can
do not take drugs or steroids


http://benjianderson.com
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
9th grade basketball, 90's exponent, 88 lbs., benched 80lbs...... the last time I tried a bench press. Embarrassing!
 

T1000

Legend
Respect for actually showing yourself doing it. Respect for being able to do it with some of the smallest legs I've ever seen. Respect for your back physique. Form was ok. A lot of back...

But I can't do 500 so who am I to critique.

messed up my hip flexor so legs are lagging, only at like 335 right now for squats. back is way better. this was also after two days of throwing up from food poisoning so i was dead tired trying it, form is usually way better. also i'm used to 5 45s, not the mess that i had on the bar aha. no pics of legs on my comp but here's my most recent back pic, looks way better than legs

4tFZYQKl.jpg
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
messed up my hip flexor so legs are lagging, only at like 335 right now for squats. back is way better. this was also after two days of throwing up from food poisoning so i was dead tired trying it, form is usually way better. also i'm used to 5 45s, not the mess that i had on the bar aha. no pics of legs on my comp but here's my most recent back pic, looks way better than legs

4tFZYQKl.jpg
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
messed up my hip flexor so legs are lagging, only at like 335 right now for squats. back is way better. this was also after two days of throwing up from food poisoning so i was dead tired trying it, form is usually way better. also i'm used to 5 45s, not the mess that i had on the bar aha. no pics of legs on my comp but here's my most recent back pic, looks way better than legs

4tFZYQKl.jpg

Are you trying to get a 6-pack on your back?
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
Just put up 285 for 20 reps and the next week maxed out at 465 the same as John Cena who just posted a video of his benching.
The difference is I am 230 pounds of 100 percent natural NEVER did peds not even one cycle or pill. John is a 250 pound juice head I am sure he could lift more but he would tear a tendon since peds make your muscles get stronger in a short time frame so your tendons cant catch up.
 
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Deleted member 23235

Guest
Just put up 285 for 20 reps and the next week maxed out at 465 the same as John Cena who just posted a video of his benching.
The difference is I am 230 pounds of 100 percent natural NEVER did peds not even one cycle or pill. John is a 250 pound juice head I am sure he could lift more but he would tear a tendon since peds make your muscles get stronger in a short time frame so your tendons cant catch up.
Damn, that's hella-strong. How the heck do you still play tennis?

Maxed at 305 myself (10yr ago)... never could quite do it with 3 big pizzas on the bar :(
 

frank52

Semi-Pro
This thread needs a warning label: "Warning heavy and prolonged bench pressing will ruin your shoulders and your tennis game". Benching with arms going lower than parallel is great for destroying shoulders. Over-building your chest muscles will bring your shoulders forward into a position great for impingement while serving in tennis.
 
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Deleted member 23235

Guest
This thread needs a warning label: "Warning heavy and prolonged bench pressing will ruin your shoulders and your tennis game". Benching with arms going lower than parallel is great for destroying shoulders. Over-building your chest muscles will bring your shoulders forward into a position great for impingement while serving in tennis.
true but still impressive that he can bench more than I can squat...
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
Damn, that's hella-strong. How the heck do you still play tennis?

Maxed at 305 myself (10yr ago)... never could quite do it with 3 big pizzas on the bar :(

I still play from time to time with my buddies I played college tennis with still can blast a nice 125mph down the t only it does not go in as much as it use to.
 

T1000

Legend
Just put up 285 for 20 reps and the next week maxed out at 465 the same as John Cena who just posted a video of his benching.
The difference is I am 230 pounds of 100 percent natural NEVER did peds not even one cycle or pill. John is a 250 pound juice head I am sure he could lift more but he would tear a tendon since peds make your muscles get stronger in a short time frame so your tendons cant catch up.

The difference is he posted a vid and you didn't.

Btw just benched 500 for 1 at 198 bodyweight. 100% natural never even used creatine.
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
The difference is he posted a vid and you didn't.

Btw just benched 500 for 1 at 198 bodyweight. 100% natural never even used creatine.

Nah only difference is he is juiced out of his mind and his ego tells him to post lots of videos. Check out his twitter its filled with tons of snatch clean squat and benching videos. John we get it u juice and lift. Bet need needs a little blue pill to get his little friend working.

500 bench only natural if u weigh 250- 325lbs
 

Ash_Smith

Legend
The difference is he posted a vid and you didn't.

Btw just benched 500 for 1 at 198 bodyweight. 100% natural never even used creatine.

Only 500lbs? I just put up 500kg at 79kg body weight. 100% natural - never even eaten protein ;)
 
Nah only difference is he is juiced out of his mind and his ego tells him to post lots of videos. Check out his twitter its filled with tons of snatch clean squat and benching videos. John we get it u juice and lift. Bet need needs a little blue pill to get his little friend working.

500 bench only natural if u weigh 250- 325lbs

what are you talking about man? He's a wrestler, not a weightlifter or powerlifter. He's not training to lift as much as possible.
Also benching is stupid. Talk about your squat and deadlift, something that people in wheelchairs cannot do.
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
what are you talking about man? He's a wrestler, not a weightlifter or powerlifter. He's not training to lift as much as possible.
Also benching is stupid. Talk about your squat and deadlift, something that people in wheelchairs cannot do.

Wrong, John and his brother r powerlifters their gym is setup for powerlifting. I watched my friend pop D-Bol for 2 months his bench went for 365 for 1 rep to 365 for 12 reps that's like a 40 percent increase. now stack that with Test, HGH, IGF-1, winstrol-v, anavar, anadrol, Decca and u will be like 60 percent stronger with tiny nutz and shooting blanks with a limp bizkit loll's!!:)
 
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Deleted member 23235

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Wrong, John and his brother r powerlifters their gym is setup for powerlifting. I watched my friend pop D-Bol for 2 months his bench went for 365 for 1 rep to 365 for 12 reps that's like a 40 percent increase. now stack that with Test, HGH, IGF-1, winstrol-v, anavar, anadrol, Decca and u will be like 60 percent stronger with tiny nutz and shooting blanks with a limp bizkit loll's!!:)
If only that would work for NTRP... a 60% boost would put me at 7.2.
 
Wrong, John and his brother r powerlifters their gym is setup for powerlifting. I watched my friend pop D-Bol for 2 months his bench went for 365 for 1 rep to 365 for 12 reps that's like a 40 percent increase. now stack that with Test, HGH, IGF-1, winstrol-v, anavar, anadrol, Decca and u will be like 60 percent stronger with tiny nutz and shooting blanks with a limp bizkit loll's!!:)

Stop talking crap man. I've been an international powerlifter for 5 years and I know what John Cena does. He's not a powerlifter, he just trains heavy like a powerlifter. Mark Bell from Supertraining has some videos about him. However you're just a powerlifter if you compete in powerlifting.

Cool story about dbol. If everything is that easy I would say try it and you could shatter some world records.
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
Stop talking crap man. I've been an international powerlifter for 5 years and I know what John Cena does. He's not a powerlifter, he just trains heavy like a powerlifter. Mark Bell from Supertraining has some videos about him. However you're just a powerlifter if you compete in powerlifting.

Cool story about dbol. If everything is that easy I would say try it and you could shatter some world records.

He and his bro powerlift I never said they did comps John can snatch 297 pounds that's a powerlifting move not strength training move. He also did bodybuilding shows in his 20's. Check this out sounds like he did his first cycle at 15. When I went from 155 in HS it took me until 30 to get to 215 lbs what a joke. Nah, I don't take shortcuts since when u cheat u r only cheating yourself plus u know in your heart u did not earn it for real so it would not mean anything to u or anyone. My friend on the d-bol when from a d-2 school to the nfl so it works. Look what Lance what a fraud and joke almost every pro sport is a joke with sad filled juicers aka cheaters.

I know MF fans will find this hard to believe, since you're so jacked: 6'1, 240. But you used to weigh 120-something pounds. Yeah, but that was when I was really young. My most string-beanish, I guess, is when I was 15 years old. From 15 to 16, I went from 155 pounds to 215. By the time I graduated from high school, I was between 235-250
 
He and his bro powerlift I never said they did comps John can snatch 297 pounds that's a powerlifting move not strength training move. He also did bodybuilding shows in his 20's. Check this out sounds like he did his first cycle at 15. When I went from 155 in HS it took me until 30 to get to 215 lbs what a joke. Nah, I don't take shortcuts since when u cheat u r only cheating yourself plus u know in your heart u did not earn it for real so it would not mean anything to u or anyone. My friend on the d-bol when from a d-2 school to the nfl so it works. Look what Lance what a fraud and joke almost every pro sport is a joke with sad filled juicers aka cheaters.

I know MF fans will find this hard to believe, since you're so jacked: 6'1, 240. But you used to weigh 120-something pounds. Yeah, but that was when I was really young. My most string-beanish, I guess, is when I was 15 years old. From 15 to 16, I went from 155 pounds to 215. By the time I graduated from high school, I was between 235-250

A snatch is weightlifting, not powerlifting. Now quit your ******** anti-drugs campaign, noone cares.
 

HELLCAT707HP

New User
A snatch is weightlifting, not powerlifting. Now quit your ******** anti-drugs campaign, noone cares.

Ok John is both Olympic lifts 305 clean 297 snatch now for his powerlifting 465 bench, 650 deadlift and 600 squat. Why r u a juice head lets hear your max cheating lifts loser!:)
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
I'm 5'11 and 180 pounds. I can max at about 190 barbell or 170 with dumbbells. I used to be able to max at about 235 or so at my strongest, but now I only lift weights once or twice a week and simply try to maintain where I'm at. For me to be able to increase my max lifts would require a time commitment and dedication that I'm not willing to make.
 

T1000

Legend
Wrong, John and his brother r powerlifters their gym is setup for powerlifting. I watched my friend pop D-Bol for 2 months his bench went for 365 for 1 rep to 365 for 12 reps that's like a 40 percent increase. now stack that with Test, HGH, IGF-1, winstrol-v, anavar, anadrol, Decca and u will be like 60 percent stronger with tiny nutz and shooting blanks with a limp bizkit loll's!!:)

You don't understand how peds work
You don't understand the basic difference between olympic lifting and powerlifting
You never benched 465
You say John has ego issues yet you think you're superior for being natty (you're not actually being natty is technically inferior) and you brag about a bench that never happened on a tennis forum
Your English sucks
Your friend didn't go from 365 to 510 in 2 months your math sucks too

Have a good day
 
You don't understand how peds work
You don't understand the basic difference between olympic lifting and powerlifting
You never benched 465
You say John has ego issues yet you think you're superior for being natty (you're not actually being natty is technically inferior) and you brag about a bench that never happened on a tennis forum
Your English sucks
Your friend didn't go from 365 to 510 in 2 months your math sucks too

Have a good day

This man is delusional. Probably has nightmares about John Cena raping him in an ally or something.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Just put up 285 for 20 reps and the next week maxed out at 465 the same as John Cena who just posted a video of his benching.
The difference is I am 230 pounds of 100 percent natural NEVER did peds not even one cycle or pill. John is a 250 pound juice head I am sure he could lift more but he would tear a tendon since peds make your muscles get stronger in a short time frame so your tendons cant catch up.
6ft, I doubt John Cena is 6'1 looks more like 5'11
I asked your height, because certain body types are "born to bench". With your height, I doubt you have such a body type.

Anyway, you should be very proud of your 465 bench (no drugs, no equipment assistance). This puts you pretty close to all time world champion levels for your weight.

http://www.weightrainer.net/strength.html

See if you can add 35 lbs. and match Reg Park. He was basically your height (depends on who you believe), and probably about your weight (I think he was 215 for bodybuilding competitions).

 
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HELLCAT707HP

New User
I asked your height, because certain body types are "born to bench". With your height, I doubt you have such a body type.

Anyway, you should be very proud of your 465 bench (no drugs, no equipment assistance). This puts you pretty close to all time world champion levels for your weight.

http://www.weightrainer.net/strength.html

See if you can add 35 lbs. and match Reg Park. He was basically your height (depends on who you believe), and probably about your weight (I think he was 215 for bodybuilding competitions).


Nah, I am only benching double my body weight which is good but nothing to juice heads doing triple their body weight. I met one trainer at 24hr fitness who does powerlifting comps said he put up 500 plus at 185 pounds. I know in my mind that is not possible without gear and he said it was raw WTF!!
 

HELLCAT707HP

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You don't understand how peds work
You don't understand the basic difference between olympic lifting and powerlifting
You never benched 465
You say John has ego issues yet you think you're superior for being natty (you're not actually being natty is technically inferior) and you brag about a bench that never happened on a tennis forum
Your English sucks
Your friend didn't go from 365 to 510 in 2 months your math sucks too

Have a good day
Blag blah have a nice life. My life is great ps I am not from America so take your English degree and stuff it clown.
 

r2473

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Nah, I am only benching double my body weight which is good but nothing to juice heads doing triple their body weight. I met one trainer at 24hr fitness who does powerlifting comps said he put up 500 plus at 185 pounds. I know in my mind that is not possible without gear and he said it was raw WTF!!
You didn't look at the article. Run the equations in the article (which are for natural lifters) and you will see that you are more than elite in the world of natural powerlifting. Not an all time world champion, but certainly quite elite.

Why not post a video of your lift? I'm sure you could put up 465 again in a week or two.
 
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