I like your BH; nice strong semi-western grip, low takeback, swing up for good topspin,
and nice full follow thru.
My suggestion is that you need to be looser in the wrist. You are very stiff thru the
ball and while this is a traditional virtue, you will have a much more natural BH when
No one has mentioned that when Nadal begins his forward swing the first thing that happens
is he drops his arm and the strings become parallel to the court ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE Murray.
So while their technique is different, both begin the forward motion from a "strings facing the court"
I think Wawrinka's power comes from the Kinetic Chain + he releases and sort of throws the strings at the ball. This is the emerging technique to hit with max energy for pace and spin. You can see this in his straight arm finish all the way around his body due to the acceleration of the strings...
I taught myself the Hawaiian FH a few years ago
It took several months to get it right and be comfortable with it.
Keys I found were ....
1. Must hit it way out front. Hitting it late near the body is DEATH.
Low balls are not a problem if hit out in front.
2. I must rapidly suppinate my forearm...
...... but the truth is it all works.
Wise words from Bendix IMO
I believe the game is evolving to where the push or pull groundstroke is being replaced by a throwing/snapping
action thru the ball.
I teach Physics and the frozen frames in videos are deceiving.
It appears the wrist is leading...
Thanks for the information.
Unexpected comments for sure.
I have not used them long enough to see these effects but will be on guard.
I hear many people like Yonex and Wilson of specific types which I forgot but will look up again.
You are right !
This thread got out of hand.
The OP was reporting he sees a high bounce [kick] when he serves by hitting DOWN on the ball.
Then I confirmed his observation from my own experience.
Note "hitting down" means strings go from high to low
hit the ball on top so it goes down to...
Vic Braden had a video back in the 70's [many in fact] that discussed the two alternatives of using Continental and not changing grip
Changing grip from Eastern FH to Eastern BH.
He demonstrated how quickly one can change it and it was his conclusion that either method worked fine.
Here is Ron Waite's classic article on a backspin serve.
This is not the serve I am talking about but it does relate in that some people find backspin 1st serves effective.
This technique does not mention something fundamental to what I do...
No one is disputing these fundamentals of low to high for a kick [topspin] serve
We are not even saying you should do this high to low pronation technique.
We are reporting what we have found from hours and hours of practice.
I noticed this pull down action with many of the pros I have...
Have you forgotten your thread ?
Hitting down [that is with the strings going high to low] is a valid technique with great results.
No doubt about it. It yields a kicker, but more than that, it is one that has good pace
That is a pretty good video of a classic American Twist kicker.
Here is another view of the video from post #35
The right side view shows his strings going below the ball after the hit.
The classic kick swing brushes up from...