Sharapova Book

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil · Sep 22, 2017

THUNDERVOLLEY said:
Nonsense.

I do notice how one of Sharapova's biggest TT fans once wished death on the Williams sisters on this board. That member poses a real danger to the safety of not just the sisters, but the entire Williams family. No amount of professional help will address a behavior that is rarely counseled or medicated.

Yes, that is a Sharapova fan, and one who entered this thread to flame another member a few pages ago.

Sure, a random irrelevant keyboard warrior wishing death means that the player is in real danger.

One can find whackjobs like that everywhere. You giving one example doesn't refute my point about the general picture of this place. But I understand your need to do that since you are one of those that criticizes Sharapova any time she is brought up.

Bartelby · Sep 22, 2017

Williams's fans do indeed seem to denigrate Sharapova in typical fanwars style whenever a thread is created about her.

Mind Doctor · Sep 22, 2017

MatsPhilander said:
Her English diction is phenomenal.

It is, yes. Unfortunately diction and reading or writing have nothing to do with each other.

Mind Doctor · Sep 22, 2017

Bartelby said:
CAS found that the transmission of emails about the ban was inherently faulty.

She still completely forgot about Mildronate for... how many years? And why did she exactly take it? She obviously must not be taking it now, so it is concerning to say the least that she is not taking a medication she should be taking.

Mind Doctor · Sep 22, 2017

Reading through this thread it shows the lack of perspective of most people here. The unadulterated truth is that Pova is better looking than the majority of WTA stock, but it's also true that legends about her beauty have been grossly exaggerated for the sake of her image, which is basically what makes her one of the biggest earners in tennis across the board (male and female)

And yeah, most women do have hair in places the idealized female body is not supposed to have hair in. It's the truth, and that's why waxing was invented. Anyone not aware of this fact either lives in a cave or is usually too busy inflating his rubber girlfriend to notice it.

Mind Doctor · Sep 22, 2017

racket king said:
Its photoshopped and airbrushed you utter mug as well as having filters applied, color corrected etc

You think they're going to sell any magazines if they used raw photos of her? People would be throwing up their dinners if they saw the undoctored photos of her pasty blotchy skin and cellulite.

Look closely by double clicking on the picture below to zoom in on it - she even has a moustache!!

Damn you, Magnifying Lense Man.

Bartelby · Sep 22, 2017

My point was that WADA and the ITF did nothing to communicate the ban directly and forcefully, and CAS found this to be the case so they agreed with Sharapova's viewpoint.

Your comment was completely irrelvant to the one I made.

Mind Doctor said:
She still completely forgot about Mildronate for... how many years? And why did she exactly take it? She obviously must not be taking it now, so it is concerning to say the least that she is not taking a medication she should be taking.

Mind Doctor · Sep 22, 2017

Bartelby said:
My point was that WADA and the ITF did nothing to communicate the ban directly and forcefully, and CAS found this to be the case so they agreed with Sharapova's viewpoint.

Your comment was completely irrelvant to the one I made.

When things get political, formality and technicalities get in the way of facts and reasons. I get that you think Sharapova did nothing wrong by (nor did she derive any benefit from) taking Meldonium. I just don't share that opinion.

AllPlayersAreGood · Sep 22, 2017

Chadillac said:
Wow, she wears a mens 14 (womens 16 1/2). Didnt know her feet were that big.

Probably the best looking big foot in the world. Toes arent going different directions and stuff like serena

I really don't know why some women are so disgusted with their "big" feet. I, personally, wouldn't care less. Feet size is definitely not on my radar screen when I'm looking at women. LOL

Bartelby · Sep 22, 2017

You would be advised to read the judgements and evidence contained therein. Regarding the faults in the communication of the ban, we have facts and judgements based on them.

It's no longer simply a question of opinion.

Mind Doctor said:
When things get political, formality and technicalities get in the way of facts and reasons. I get that you think Sharapova did nothing wrong by (nor did she derive any benefit from) taking Meldonium. I just don't share that opinion.

Bartelby · Sep 22, 2017

I've never said Sharapova did nothing wrong, so you got that wrong.

a. It's plainly the case that she took a drug after it was banned.

b. It's plainly the case that she did not always declare all medications taken.

I did say that I have not seen any real evidence that Meldonium is a PED.

I did also say that WADA has nowhere claimed that Meldonium has been pharmacologically shown to be a PED.

These are all reasonably judgement-neutral facts.

Mr.Lob · Sep 22, 2017

Mind Doctor said:
And yeah, most women do have hair in places the idealized female body is not supposed to have hair in. It's the truth, and that's why waxing was invented. Anyone not aware of this fact either lives in a cave or is usually too busy inflating his rubber girlfriend to notice it.

Exactly. If you have to go to 100X magnification to see a little peach fuzz, then you have more problems than can be discussed here.

MatsPhilander · Sep 22, 2017

Mind Doctor said:
When things get political, formality and technicalities get in the way of facts and reasons. I get that you think Sharapova did nothing wrong by (nor did she derive any benefit from) taking Meldonium. I just don't share that opinion.

A few posts up you said she should be taking it-which is it?

Mind Doctor · Sep 23, 2017

MatsPhilander said:
A few posts up you said she should be taking it-which is it?

I wasn't being sarcastic. Not sarcastic at all.

Mind Doctor · Sep 23, 2017

Bartelby said:
You would be advised to read the judgements and evidence contained therein. Regarding the faults in the communication of the ban, we have facts and judgements based on them.

It's no longer simply a question of opinion.

I don't think you understood. I meant that perhaps she is off the hook because of a technicality. I'm more interested about why she was taking Meldonium, and why didn't she put that in her medical files along with the other stuff she was taking. There seems to be an intent to conceal.

Mind Doctor · Sep 23, 2017

Bartelby said:
I've never said Sharapova did nothing wrong, so you got that wrong.

a. It's plainly the case that she took a drug after it was banned.

b. It's plainly the case that she did not always declare all medications taken.

I did say that I have not seen any real evidence that Meldonium is a PED.

I did also say that WADA has nowhere claimed that Meldonium has been pharmacologically shown to be a PED.

These are all reasonably judgement-neutral facts.

OK, fair enough then.

Crocodile · Sep 23, 2017

I think it's a good story for anyone who can play sport at the top elite level.

McEnroeVsAnnacone · Sep 24, 2017

"My point was that WADA and the ITF did nothing to communicate the ban directly and forcefully." Trolling continues - next break expected around 2020 US Pres Elect

Secret Transcript of WADA phone call to Sharapova

WADA: Maria please note that among the many secret M&Ms that you are taking there is one called Meldonium that is now banned.
We are only calling because we thought you may not take notice of official emails sent due to your busy schedule of looking in the mirror.
Sharapova: Can you call my agent as I am not responsible for my actions.
WADA:I suppose we could as I am sure being worth so much $$$ you would have Experienced Professional people looking after you.

Bartelby · Sep 24, 2017

The most senior legal body in sport -CAS - did not think the communication of the banning of the drug was done properly, so I prefer their judgement to a rabid fanboy turned poor humourist.

Bartelby · Sep 24, 2017

For those who argue that Sharapova should have disclosed her use of the drug, I should add here that there appear to be no penalties for not doing so.

So if there are no penalties for not doing so, then the practice of non-disclosure must be reasonably widespread.

Bartelby · Sep 24, 2017

Seithoffer's opinion of May 2016:

The epic announcement of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s (WADA) Statement on Meldonium Notice issued to Stakeholders, 11 April 2016, stating that ‘limited data exists’ on how long the substance (meldonium) takes to get out of an athletes system reveals a major operational failure by WADA leadership of adding meldonium prematurely to the Prohibited List without adequate scientific information, placing WADA and athletes in legal jeopardy and calls into question whether it should be on the Prohibited List at all.

With anti-doping leadership like this, no athlete is safe. These scenarios and problems were predicable long ago.

McEnroeVsAnnacone · Sep 25, 2017

there are no penalties for not doing so - OH I DID NOT REALISE. THAT IS OK THEN.

we need a troll who thinks CAS is as full of turds as Bart does of WADA to get this book tour back on track

Bartelby · Sep 25, 2017

It tells you something about the seriousness of the infraction if there is not any penalty, no?

McEnroeVsAnnacone said:
there are no penalties for not doing so - OH I DID NOT REALISE. THAT IS OK THEN.

we need a troll who thinks CAS is as full of turds as Bart does of WADA to get this book tour back on track

THUNDERVOLLEY · Sep 26, 2017

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
Sure, a random irrelevant keyboard warrior wishing death means that the player is in real danger.

Sigh.

One person writing a death threat has ended with the target losing their life more than you know. From the average John/Jane Q. Publics of the world losing their lives to a individuals with murderous desires first expressed on print, to politicians (Sirhan Sirhan's written threats to kill Robert F. Kennedy) and celebrities (Mark David Chapman's written ramblings about killing John Lennon), history has witnessed the same kind of threats turn to murder time after time. To deny it, or attempt to pretend anyone making death threats is not to be taken seriously means you're yet another person who will excuse despicable behavior--someone wanting to end the life of another human being--in order to protect another who worships Sharapova as much as you do.

Bartelby · Sep 26, 2017

If people behaved responsibly in their criticisms of Sharapova, rather than treating the issue as an opportunity for payback in relation to criticism of the Williams, we might be able to discuss matters seriously.

Tennis_Hands · Sep 27, 2017

Bartelby said:
The most senior legal body in sport -CAS - did not think the communication of the banning of the drug was done properly, so I prefer their judgement to a rabid fanboy turned poor humourist.

This "conclusion" of CAS will not be met with much understanding from any court in many proper jurisdictions.

That is the real reason why Dopingapova will not sue (along with others).

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil · Sep 27, 2017

THUNDERVOLLEY said:
Sigh.

One person writing a death threat has ended with the target losing their life more than you know. From the average John/Jane Q. Publics of the world losing their lives to a individuals with murderous desires first expressed on print, to politicians (Sirhan Sirhan's written threats to kill Robert F. Kennedy) and celebrities (Mark David Chapman's written ramblings about killing John Lennon), history has witnessed the same kind of threats turn to murder time after time. To deny it, or attempt to pretend anyone making death threats is not to be taken seriously means you're yet another person who will excuse despicable behavior--someone wanting to end the life of another human being--in order to protect another who worships Sharapova as much as you do.

I'm not excusing that kind of behavior at all.

heftylefty · Sep 27, 2017

THUNDERVOLLEY said:
Sigh.

One person writing a death threat has ended with the target losing their life more than you know. From the average John/Jane Q. Publics of the world losing their lives to a individuals with murderous desires first expressed on print, to politicians (Sirhan Sirhan's written threats to kill Robert F. Kennedy) and celebrities (Mark David Chapman's written ramblings about killing John Lennon), history has witnessed the same kind of threats turn to murder time after time. To deny it, or attempt to pretend anyone making death threats is not to be taken seriously means you're yet another person who will excuse despicable behavior--someone wanting to end the life of another human being--in order to protect another who worships Sharapova as much as you do.

darrinbaker00 · Sep 27, 2017

Bartelby said:
If people behaved responsibly in their criticisms of Sharapova, rather than treating the issue as an opportunity for payback in relation to criticism of the Williams, we might be able to discuss matters seriously.

Serious discussion on the Internet? Not if I can help it.

Tennis_Hands · Sep 27, 2017

Bartelby said:
I've never said Sharapova did nothing wrong, so you got that wrong.

a. It's plainly the case that she took a drug after it was banned.

b. It's plainly the case that she did not always declare all medications taken.

You claim that b. = "nothing wrong"

So, why would you say/write the first sentence?

Also, you claim that a. Is also = "nothing wrong", so, again, why would you say / write the first sentence?

Or are you deliberately using "did wrong" and "made a mistake" interchangeably?

Because in the second instance you would be just expressing regrets about the unfortunate development of the events and not actually acknowledging that what she did was indeed "wrong".

Bartelby · Sep 27, 2017

There are apparently no penalties for not declaring medications, so it is a trivial offence.

Mr.Lob · Sep 27, 2017

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
I'm not excusing that kind of behavior at all.

The full unedited version was spot on.

Bartelby · Sep 27, 2017

Sharapova threads are beginning to resemble watching people chew on a chop or a t-bone from which all the meat has already been stripped.

darrinbaker00 said:
Serious discussion on the Internet? Not if I can help it.

Mr.Lob · Sep 27, 2017

heftylefty said:

Ironic that a few years after this incident that Serena was physically threatening a small petite lineswoman. Then later a chair umpire "... look the other way."

darrinbaker00 · Sep 27, 2017

Bartelby said:
Sharapova threads are beginning to resemble watching people chew on a chop or a t-bone from which all the meat has already been stripped.

You've actually watched people.....never mind.

kovicpova · Sep 27, 2017

The case of Maria Sharapova:
Don’t laugh me when I said Hurricane Maria is because of Maria Sharapova’s desperation in 15 month ban. Sharapova spirit level is the best out of all tennis players both in male and female, no question about that. Her spirit and vibration too high, that’s why there is not many players can even come close to her field, she is friendly but only when she able to find the person have similar spirit level and who understand her. How many tears have you drop while writing your book, Sharapova? I can easily read your desperation feeling and the hate for this stupid planet Earth. Then you may cry happy after your book is released, that’s the stage of remembering & releasing trauma.
Mark my words: Sharapova will be the Champion of China Open 2017 next week. She is anger, she is hungry, she is going to destroy every opponents just like what hurricane name “Maria” did, abosulute no mercy. The only thing can prevent her is injury, if she is fit 100%, there is no any other player can beat her at this moment.

For more info: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...ut-tennis-sponsors-via-spirit-explain.600658/

Bartelby · Sep 28, 2017

As opposed to a bookeeper who watches ... numbers?

darrinbaker00 said:
You've actually watched people.....never mind.

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil · Sep 28, 2017

Mr.Lob said:
The full unedited version was spot on.

Yeah but I didn't want to make this exchange even longer. It's not worth it.

darrinbaker00 · Sep 28, 2017

Bartelby said:
As opposed to a bookeeper who watches ... numbers?

Not surprisingly, the humor eluded you. Carry on.

Bartelby · Sep 29, 2017

Do you intend to repeat your empty statements ad nauseam?

darrinbaker00 said:
not surprisingly, the humor eluded you. Carry on.

Mind Doctor · Sep 29, 2017

kovicpova said:
The case of Maria Sharapova:
Don’t laugh me when I said Hurricane Maria is because of Maria Sharapova’s desperation in 15 month ban. Sharapova spirit level is the best out of all tennis players both in male and female, no question about that. Her spirit and vibration too high, that’s why there is not many players can even come close to her field, she is friendly but only when she able to find the person have similar spirit level and who understand her. How many tears have you drop while writing your book, Sharapova? I can easily read your desperation feeling and the hate for this stupid planet Earth. Then you may cry happy after your book is released, that’s the stage of remembering & releasing trauma.
Mark my words: Sharapova will be the Champion of China Open 2017 next week. She is anger, she is hungry, she is going to destroy every opponents just like what hurricane name “Maria” did, abosulute no mercy. The only thing can prevent her is injury, if she is fit 100%, there is no any other player can beat her at this moment.

For more info: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...ut-tennis-sponsors-via-spirit-explain.600658/

LOL

Mind Doctor · Sep 29, 2017

darrinbaker00 said:
You've actually watched people.....never mind.

I think the technical term amongst law enforcement is "peeped".

darrinbaker00 · Sep 29, 2017

Bartelby said:
Do you intend to repeat your empty statements ad nauseam?

As long as you intend to repeat yours, yes.

jm1980 · Sep 29, 2017

Bartelby said:
I've never said Sharapova did nothing wrong, so you got that wrong.

a. It's plainly the case that she took a drug after it was banned.

b. It's plainly the case that she did not always declare all medications taken.

I did say that I have not seen any real evidence that Meldonium is a PED.

I did also say that WADA has nowhere claimed that Meldonium has been pharmacologically shown to be a PED.

These are all reasonably judgement-neutral facts.

They are "neutral" if you are firmly in the Russian propaganda camp

Apun94 · Sep 29, 2017

McEnroeVsAnnacone said:
i hope there is a chapter on cheating and getting caught and the lesson - oh thats right she still recons she is innocent

Meldronium is not a PED idiot

Apun94 · Sep 29, 2017

Kalin said:
The guy busted his rear to get his daughter where she is now (a world-famous, 5-times Slam champion multi-millionaire). My friend knew him in Beijing where he was traveling to make some money for Maria's training. Failed parent? You are a joke.

I swear. He really is the reason Maria has risen to where she is. And it's not like Maria is some dysfunctional freak that just plays great tennis. Seems normal enough.
Yuri is defo not a failed parent

Man of steel · Sep 29, 2017

Chadillac said:
Yet you dont feel the way about serena threatening the line judge, shaking the racket 1 foot from her face.

Other than that, just another dumb post from blundervolley

Yeah because threatning someone in the heat of the moment while playing a competitive sport in front of millions of people is the same as threatning and stalking someone behind a keyboard and not knowing what that person is really like.
For all we know you could be/are a 65 year old keyboard psycho who could stalk anyone at any moment and send threatning messages.

What about all the threatning messages that are left for players and linesmen by gambling men who lose out on bets.
How come i don't see you voice your opinion on that subject matter.
Surely since your so worried about the welfare of players and officials you would address that since it occurs more often. But like always your agenda is plain to see. Not a day goes by when you don't bring it up.
The same tune over and over again.

Bartelby · Sep 29, 2017

So now you intend to merely copy everything I say, stalker boy.

darrinbaker00 said:
As long as you intend to repeat yours, yes.

Bartelby · Sep 29, 2017

America invented the term 'propaganda' or, at least, one of its many immigrants made the term famous.

Propaganda is actually a term synonymous with democracy, as you would expect, as it is about persuasion:

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”

jm1980 said:
They are "neutral" if you are firmly in the Russian propaganda camp

Man of steel · Sep 29, 2017

Bartelby said:
America invented the term 'propaganda' or, at least, one of its many immigrants made the term famous.

Propaganda is actually a term synonymous with democracy, as you would expect, as it is about persuasion:

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”

No, america did not invent propaganda.
The word is from the latin language and most often used in Europe for hundreds of years prior to the foundation of America.
If your going to make up BS at least make it believable

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