Mental Toughness: examples

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
Rather than argue about the definition of MT, how about giving some examples?

For me, it was being up 3-0 against the #1 seed [I was unseeded] and continuing to step on the gas rather than letting up. I ended up winning 6-0 although I could tell he stopped trying very hard after a while.

The fact that I then got destroyed in the 3rd is a topic for another day.
 

styksnstryngs

Professional
I was down 1-5, 15-40 on my serve. I told my friend(this was during tryouts for a spot on varsity) that I was gonna make a comeback. He thought I was joking and laughed it off. I won that set for the match, 11-9 in the tiebreak.
 

ptuanminh

Hall of Fame
Last week tournament, i had to play quarter-final, semi-final, and the final on the same day. In semi-final, I was down a set and a break. Came back to win the 2nd set, and the super tie-break. A few hours later, I was down a set in the final. Came back win the next 2 sets and the final match. :) . I couldn't walk for the next 3 days.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
No one remembers the people they beat, only those they lose to.

I was up 6-1 in a 2nd set tb at a disney tournament (semi's) that had huge ceramic mickey mouse trophys (big stuff as jr). Was in position to win the set and most likely the 3rd. Tried an open court drop shot (confidence now is to swing through), hit the net and lost the tb thinking about the drop shot. He was even walking off the court to get the new balls for the 3rd...

We learn from our mistakes. When you break it down, "mental toughness" would mean being able to defend yourself from your own mind :)

I think it was Sagan who said the human mind is based on zero. Always trying to balance things. Most often your positive responses trigger a negative, the mind is always judging and comparing, trying to reach 0.

I forget how it goes, but made sense when you combine human reactions with cause and effect in a tennis match.
 
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Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I have a bud i have known for 25 years or more and occasionally make it to florida to play. I taught him and lets say he thinks hes better. Anyhow one time he crushed me the 1st set (never never play a grudge match using your new spin racquet you never used before) and the heat was a big equalizer and i pulled a calf and was even slower than normal. Was down 2-5 in the 2nd and just knew i could pull it out. Started going for short points and won the 2nd 7-5. It was just shear will that got the 2nd set.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Well, when you play matches ur more nervious and tight as in practice, its normal for everyone even the pro players, so mental toughness for me is when ur in such situations that ur opponent is rly pushing u hard and u somehow can get past the tightness and really focus like crazy, some zen like focus where you probably wouldn't even feel if someone shot you in the leg because ur so focused on the ball and the point.
For me its always like this when I play players better than miself.
I start losing and going down, then when its maybe like 4:1 or 4:0 or something, my mind gets in this super state where it starts focusing insanely, its like all you see is the ball and you don't see or hear anything else, its like ur abilities and perception and mind focus is raised by 200% like some adrenaline rush or something, and you raise ur whole game and everything and give ur opponent a really hard time and get some points back or get close ven if you lose in the end.
You hit such crazy shots and save such crazy balls where before ud make only 1 out of 10 but now seemingly you make all, its really insane and I can't explain to miself how its possible, is it really the adrenaline rush? It just might be... ive read that when ur in that state all ur abilities, perception, focus get much better.
It always seems to happen with me.
My problem is when im better than them and start leading and gaining an advantage, then I get even more nervious of "****ing up the lead" and start playing worse and making more mistakes and being more tight.
Funny thing really.
 

Slicerman

Professional
IMO I think mental toughness is..
-not getting frustrated when mistakes are made
-not dwelling on the mistakes
-ability to remain calm and regain focus, especially when you're losing
-not becoming intimidated by your opponent's good shots
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Mental toughness is focus; playing all of your shots to the best of your ability.


These 5-0 comebacks are a bit fairytale. Yes you need mental toughness, but you also need an opppnenet who implodes. Not a great example imo
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
Mental toughness is focus; playing all of your shots to the best of your ability.

These 5-0 comebacks are a bit fairytale. Yes you need mental toughness, but you also need an opppnenet who implodes. Not a great example imo

I think they are great examples: without mental toughness, I'll never reach the point where my opponent could implode. I'll just lose 0-6.
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
Rather than argue about the definition of MT, how about giving some examples?

For me, it was being up 3-0 against the #1 seed [I was unseeded] and continuing to step on the gas rather than letting up. I ended up winning 6-0 although I could tell he stopped trying very hard after a while.

The fact that I then got destroyed in the 3rd is a topic for another day.

Recently was down 3*-5, 0-30, hit an ace and service forced error, then two big forehand points to win the game to get to 4-5*, then played nearly perfectly to take the next three games and win 7-5.

Years ago was down 6-7 0-5 and came back to win the second set 7-5. Went down in the third set 0-5. Came back to win 7-5. Won 6-7 7-5 7-5 in brutally hot and humid summer conditions (typical southern weather), saving double-digit MPs.

Few weeks ago, saved a SP with a big DTL FH winner to the corner, then went on to win the set(match).

I like to remember the good ones (there are others), and forget the bad ones (of which there are many too) :)
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Once, I held from 0-40 down, then broke in the next game after hitting three consecutive return winners from 40-0 down on a lefty's serve.
 

Wander

Hall of Fame
Recently I was down 1-6 0-5 against a player much better than myself. But I'm not a quitter so I kept trying as hard as I can until the end.

I ended up losing 1-6 0-6.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Mental toughness, Won first set 6-2, opponent figured some things out and I was trailing in the second set 3-5. I did NOT want a 3rd set. It was over 100F, and it was the tournament final with full 3rd set not 10-point breaker, and I wanted the stupid little plastic trophy.

I altered my game, shortened the points, became more aggressive and won it 7-5.
 

iChen

Semi-Pro
5 days ago I got drop shotted and I hit a ball into the net.

Next point, I drop shotted that BOY and he couldn’t get to it.

*rips shirt apart at chest*

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ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
I have a lot of examples I suppose of where I succeed and times I've failed. You could simply look at how many times I split sets and either win or lose for both. But success wise, one really strong example lately has been my serve consistency, even if everything else isn't clicking. I used to let my overall game drop if one part wasn't firing well, but I have learned to compartmentalize issues and focus on "what's good" in my game to try and capitalize on it. It has been extremely important I use my serve effectively because injury and comeback issues this season where my groundies are non-existent at times.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
@ChaelAZ great way of looking at it! Don't let one part fail just because something else is being wonky that day.
Obviously you do a good job of keeping your serve going, but those matches where I am living on my 2nd serve, having to up my GS level to compensate.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
You play mixed doubles?
Now that's real mental strength and courage
Yeah Man. The mental fortitude it takes to crush the pancake serve of a 70yr old lady is Herculean

Not to mention the cat fights. Lol never had a dude send me an email where they checked with the USTA and she was right and I should have backed her up, blah blah blah.

And trying not to double fault when your partner is built and is wearing tight bicycle type shorts

Its brutal
 

VoodooChild24

Semi-Pro
@ChaelAZ great way of looking at it! Don't let one part fail just because something else is being wonky that day.
Obviously you do a good job of keeping your serve going, but those matches where I am living on my 2nd serve, having to up my GS level to compensate.

Agree with this. One day I was hitting aces on my first serve but lost my match and the following week, I was serving poorly but won the match. Just keep at it.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Mental toughness is being on call for the high risk obstetrics ward as a senior medical student, having a high risk pregnancy with fetal distress come in the middle of the night and finding out the attending obstetrician had turned off her pager and phone was off the hook.
Got the police to go to her home, drag her from bed to the hospital, where we were prepping the woman for urgent C-section. Got the baby out alive thankfully. And all the while I was suffering from appendicitis through the whole night. Turned myself into ER after my shift and had my appendix out 4 hours later.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Mental toughness is being on call for the high risk obstetrics ward as a senior medical student, having a high risk pregnancy with fetal distress come in the middle of the night and finding out the attending obstetrician had turned off her pager and phone was off the hook.
Got the police to go to her home, drag her from bed to the hospital, where we were prepping the woman for urgent C-section. Got the baby out alive thankfully. And all the while I was suffering from appendicitis through the whole night. Turned myself into ER after my shift and had my appendix out 4 hours later.

okay. You win.
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
Mental toughness is being on call for the high risk obstetrics ward as a senior medical student, having a high risk pregnancy with fetal distress come in the middle of the night and finding out the attending obstetrician had turned off her pager and phone was off the hook.
Got the police to go to her home, drag her from bed to the hospital, where we were prepping the woman for urgent C-section. Got the baby out alive thankfully. And all the while I was suffering from appendicitis through the whole night. Turned myself into ER after my shift and had my appendix out 4 hours later.

But you didn't even have to save a break point!

;)
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
I have a lot of examples I suppose of where I succeed and times I've failed. You could simply look at how many times I split sets and either win or lose for both. But success wise, one really strong example lately has been my serve consistency, even if everything else isn't clicking. I used to let my overall game drop if one part wasn't firing well, but I have learned to compartmentalize issues and focus on "what's good" in my game to try and capitalize on it. It has been extremely important I use my serve effectively because injury and comeback issues this season where my groundies are non-existent at times.


To keep it real world, I completely SUXED at this last night. First set was serving gold and actually everything was firing well. Lost focus in the second and actually had a bunch of service errors. Then came down to a tie break and the one dang thing I have been able to rely on, my serve, went to a 50/50 bet. Tough mental match, and I lost it in the head game part.

So always easy to say, but sometimes hard to actually do.
 

Dan R

Professional
Stan Warwinka suffered a serious panic attack just as he was walking on the court to play the US Open Final against Djokovic. He said it took all he had not to quit the match. He lost the first set but settled down and won the next three.
 
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